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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: markey mark on 21 April 2008, 20:30:03
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of no valve damage on mv6 1999 were the tensioner has seized but only made itself know on start up ?? car did not start just made horrible noise and cambelt has gone slack ?? is it worth putting new pulley on to check compression or whip the heads off ?? i know what i want to do just want to do the cheapest option !! :y
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No way!! This your new MV6 estate mate?? Oh NO! :(
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its your choice and depends on what your plans are for the car. i know what i would do and that it not the easy option as such. if your going to do a job its worth doing the job right first time :y
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No way!! This your new MV6 estate mate?? Oh NO! :(
yes its the new estate ! no worries i bought it like that just started taking motor to bits tonite !! and a sthe cambelt hasnt stripped its teeth was thinking chuck a tensioner on and check compression !! :y
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its your choice and depends on what your plans are for the car. i know what i would do and that it not the easy option as such. if your going to do a job its worth doing the job right first time :y
like i said marie i know what i want to do but could i be lucky and its caused no damage ::)
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No way!! This your new MV6 estate mate?? Oh NO! :(
yes its the new estate ! no worries i bought it like that just started taking motor to bits tonite !! and a sthe cambelt hasnt stripped its teeth was thinking chuck a tensioner on and check compression !! :y
Think I'd be doing that, least you'll know where you stand before doing any major surgery.
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And the chances of that are very slim. so why go waste all that time and effort cutting corners as such :y
Sorry but go with you gut :-*
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No way!! This your new MV6 estate mate?? Oh NO! :(
yes its the new estate ! no worries i bought it like that just started taking motor to bits tonite !! and a sthe cambelt hasnt stripped its teeth was thinking chuck a tensioner on and check compression !! :y
Think I'd be doing that, least you'll know where you stand before doing any major surgery.
thats what im thinking got all the front of motor off and thought just try a tensioner and re time it all up and check compression ! then if no good dive in ! i have a spare set of heads for it so anly costs are gaskets and cambelt kit ! ::)
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And the chances of that are very slim. so why go waste all that time and effort cutting corners as such :y
Sorry but go with you gut :-*
i know what your saying marie !! i do intend on keeping the estate and selling my saloon so will probly do it right !! :y
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Very little work to find out one way or t'other then.
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The noise part of your description is worrying Mark, but you could be lucky. Problem is, if you turn it over for compression test you may cause damage which might be avoided by biting the bullet and opening it up. I'd go with Marie's comment; do the whole job from the outset, even if it does take more time. If it's damaged, you'll know where you stand. If not, you will be assured that it will be in good nick when you get it back together.
Good luck.
Bill.
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Very little work to find out one way or t'other then.
yes as i am in there think will just fit tensioner tommorrow nite and check compression ! :y
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if its just been cranked, and did not fire you maybe in luck!
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Very little work to find out one way or t'other then.
yes as i am in there think will just fit tensioner tommorrow nite and check compression ! :y
Yep. Do it. Several members have had close calls and got away with it.
Just be very careful how you align everything. Try to get some tension in the belt and get the crank round to 60o BTDC before you sort out the cam timing to make sure you don't get any contact then turn the crank up to TDC on no. 1 and fit in the normal way.
Give it a compression check and if it doesn't look disastrously bad run it up to temperature and repeat the compression check.
Kevin
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You could take the cam covers off, whip out the cams and see how the valves are sitting. Woudlent give you indications either way on slight damage but would tell you if its completely fubarred. That and a compression test is the way I would go! :y
If I was around I would give you a hand after the DIS pack favour :y
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iirc if your lucky you might get away with it jumping a max. of 3 teeth :-/
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iirc if your lucky you might get away with it jumping a max. of 3 teeth :-/
memory is a bit fuzzy but I think I once saw one 4 teeth out in the Tidworth party
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iirc if your lucky you might get away with it jumping a max. of 3 teeth :-/
memory is a bit fuzzy but I think I once saw one 4 teeth out in the Tidworth party
Depends which way they slip. A cam can slip in one direction until it won't run (inlets retarded, exhaust advanced) with no damage but a couple of teeth the other way will kill the valves.
Kevin
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If it turns out to be OK can you please publish your lottery numbers for this weekend!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-? :-? :-? :-?
In all seriousness, you may as well try and check the cheap option first... You're going to need a belt kit anyway so at least you'll know before all the work!
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You can start the engine with the belt fitted and no inlet.......as long as the plenum and idle valve is on....
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thats it then will refit belt and tensioner tommorrow night and lwt you all know the outcome !! cheers chaps :y :y
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thats it then will refit belt and tensioner tommorrow night and lwt you all know the outcome !! cheers chaps :y :y
good luck :y you're gonna need it ;) :y