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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: richardirv on 02 October 2012, 20:44:06
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I was just wondering if the CID sat nav displays the map as driving without having to input a destination or does it only come on when routing?
Cheers in advance? :y
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Would imagine all sat navs have a passive map display :y I.e "my location mode" :-\
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Yes
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Great, I also just read that the standard controls on the wiper stalk don't work with the 2013 and CID? Is that correct? Sounds a bit odd!
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Eh?
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Eh?
I guess by that response its no right and the standard computer buttons on the wiper stalk operate the usual functions on the CID, I may have mis-read what it ment.
This is the a snippet from the final part from the site I was reading.
"Then it’s a case of connecting a Sat Nav Aerial, re-assembling everything, having your local Vauxhall dealer Tech2 the screen and head unit to each other. The wiper stalk is also different, in that the three buttons that were used for the Check Control/Computer are no longer needed. It'll work with the old one, but for completeness I fitted the correct one from an Elite which also added Variable Intermittent Wipers."
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No, wiper stalk has no buttons for CID. And if it has rain sensing wipers, no buttons or wheel either.
All ncdc functions are by steering wheel controls or the head unit itself. :)
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Ok so If I change to a NCDC2013 and CID from a CCR2006 and MID. My wiper stalk buttons for cycling the display and resetting the trips, mpg etc.. won't work anymore?
How are those things operated? using the stereo its self seem odd as you have to look down to do it. Its nice being able to operate various things with the wiper stalk etc..
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Ok so If I change to a NCDC2013 and CID from a CCR2006 and MID. My wiper stalk buttons for cycling the display and resetting the trips, mpg etc.. won't work anymore?
How are those things operated? using the stereo its self seem odd as you have to look down to do it. Its nice being able to operate various things with the wiper stalk etc..
All functions are via steering wheel buttons. :)
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Right ok, that's not to bad then. Might take a bit of getting used too. Thanks for clearing that up :y
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Pretty much all the items on the MID appear on one screen on the CID. Stopwatch function missing.
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Pretty much all the items on the MID appear on one screen on the CID. Stopwatch function missing.
That explains allot, cheers. Do you think I will have any problems with loom and rgb connectors? Mine is a early 2002 2.6 MV6. Fingers crossed its a simple swap out..
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Pretty much all the items on the MID appear on one screen on the CID. Stopwatch function missing.
That explains allot, cheers. Do you think I will have any problems with loom and rgb connectors? Mine is a early 2002 2.6 MV6. Fingers crossed its a simple swap out..
You will need to make the loom. Pretty easy, I always use a TM loom to do the modifications on.
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Now I am lost. hehe.
Its coming out of an MV6 of the same age as mine, I would of thought the loom would be the same? I am aware I am probably missing something here ???
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Now I am lost. hehe.
Its coming out of an MV6 of the same age as mine, I would of thought the loom would be the same? I am aware I am probably missing something here ???
If it was factory fitted, the car would have a modified loom. If it wasn't, it'll either have a butchered loom, or if you're really lucky, some kind of adapter.
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Right ok, that's not to bad then. Might take a bit of getting used too. Thanks for clearing that up :y
Yes it does take a bit of practice. Some steering wheel buttons have no function at all, under certain modes. Some functions are too fiddly when in the mode you want, and are easier to operate from the home screen(Main) ...but you'll see. :y
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Ok so the chances are this ain't gonna just plug straight in? I thought the required connecter for the CID was just hidden on the facelifts or is that only on some and you just have to be lucky like you said?
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Right ok, that's not to bad then. Might take a bit of getting used too. Thanks for clearing that up :y
Yes it does take a bit of practice. Some steering wheel buttons have no function at all, under certain modes. Some functions are too fiddly when in the mode you want, and are easier to operate from the home screen(Main) ...but you'll see. :y
Cheers
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Right ok, that's not to bad then. Might take a bit of getting used too. Thanks for clearing that up :y
Yes it does take a bit of practice. Some steering wheel buttons have no function at all, under certain modes. Some functions are too fiddly when in the mode you want, and are easier to operate from the home screen(Main) ...but you'll see. :y
I find its only entering addresses that are too tedious from steering wheel, although I'm now quite good at doing it subconciously. If I think about it, I'm 'dangle berries'ed ;D
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Ok so the chances are this ain't gonna just plug straight in? I thought the required connecter for the CID was just hidden on the facelifts or is that only on some and you just have to be lucky like you said?
You've got more chance of pulling your foreskin up over your head to keep your ears warm. Sorry.
The adapter is quite easy to make, however. You need a (full) 36 way iso TM loom, the small black plug, and about 2' of wire to connect that plug to TM loom. TM loom also needs some wires swapping about.
You will also be lacking the GPS aerial, so that won't work, unless you add one somehow.
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Basically this unit is coming out of Brikheads mig which is being broken, so should have the gps antenna and anything else we should need as far as I know, it has been retro fitted to his at some point, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing regarding wiring. As for TM looms etc. I ain't a clue. I'm hoping he does as he will hopefully be installing it for me this weekend all being well.
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... it has been retro fitted to his at some point...
I should know more shortly as I'm just about to go out to the car now and have a look at the screen wiring.
I can see the point at which the stereo wiring has been modified but the wiring for the screen seems intact upto where it disapears behind the dash.
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... it has been retro fitted to his at some point...
I should know more shortly as I'm just about to go out to the car now and have a look at the screen wiring.
I can see the point at which the stereo wiring has been modified but the wiring for the screen seems intact upto where it disapears behind the dash.
Nice one Rich, keep us posted!!
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Putting the feelers out for someone willing to fit this for me. Is it worth starting a new thread?
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Is it worth starting a new thread?
It might be best to start a new thread Mate, seems this one has died a death...
It's really not that hard a job to fit the screen and I'd have no worries about doing it to a car that I owned, it's just that with your car if anything were to happen then you'd be stranded a long way from home!
Plus the Chap with the TechII thingie whom I was hoping may be able to lend a hand has no experience with the Bose set-up ::)
Also, without seeing it, I'm unsure of the exact wiring fitted to your car.
I'm guessing you have just one wiring connector on the back of your screen?
It may be grey in colour with around 30 odd wires attached? From what I can work out I'd HAVE to splice into this loom on your car.
The colour screen in my car has two connectors going to it a large 32 pin grey one and a smaller black one, the black one is mainly fed from the stereo but three wires are spliced into the grey connector, also this grey connector has had a few of the wires snipped and left disconected...
As said by 'The Boy' it would be easy to modify a TM loom to supply the black connector,
I do have a spare traffic master loom knocking around, the diagram below may help to illustrate...
(http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo273/brikheadphoto/radioplugstandard-1.jpg)
...it shows the three block connector fitted to the rear of your stereo, I think you said you have a
CCR2006 headunit fitted in your Mv6, these have double the amount of pins in the third connector so are
labelled from 17 to 36. First connector (block 1-8) deals with power to the stereo, second connector (9-16)
is for sound output, only the third connector (block 17-36) needs major changes...
This is how the pins are wired in my car...
Pin No. Wirecolour/tracercolour location
17 brown/green black plug
18 brown/white black plug
19 black black plug
20 not used ---------
21 not used ---------
22 not used ---------
23 not used ---------
24 Green black plug
25 white grey plug
26 brown spliced to main h/u earth (pin 4)
27 brown/white spliced to stereo feed loom
28 not used ---------
29 broken wire ---------
30 white black plug
31 blue black plug
32 green grey plug
33 white grey plug
34 black spliced to stereo feed loom
35 blue spliced to stereo feed loom
36 brown spliced to stereo feed loom
The only issues I have are pins 25, 32 & 33. Oh and possibly 29 but I guess it's just not used, like the other unpopulated ones...
25 and 33 are joined together then go into the screens grey plug via a white wire.
32 is green and again goes to the screens grey plug.
These white and green wires may not be standard but they do go neatly into the grey connector.