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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: SIR Philbutt on 10 October 2012, 21:47:04
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Alright guy's as title says looking to get a new TV and thought I would get the best advice around - then decided to ask you lot ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) :P
What have you got (and like/dislike) ? what would you recommend ? Where to buy from?
Budget up to £750 ish but as low as poss
Thinking of going for a LED (or OLED?), HD 1080p or better, not 3D, 46/47 inch (swmbo dont want larger)
Want plenty of different i/p o/p Scart AV HDMI Svideo ...... SD card and good sound
Would also like to use it to connect to the internet if can be achieved pref hardwired but wifi will do
I am also considering a sound bar, as have lost my 5.1 surround setup, and also Apple TV (Que TB) as we have a couple of IPOD's and an IPAD on it's way at xmas (dont tell swmbo it's her pressie)
All comments, idea's, suggestions (usual OOF one's will be giggled at) welcome
Thanks in Advance
Phil
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I would go the whole hog and get a colour one personally. :y
:D ;D ;D
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Panasoinc Viera's are about the best at the moment with the T5's coming with 5 year warranty to......OLED is way out of your price bracket sadly!
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3d not critical.. but whatever you buy, must have at least internet browser..
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and hopefully one that works
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Those new "smart" tv's look interesting. Beautifully slim, no border to speak of.
Loads of features with web access... Absolutely no idea if they are any good though. Lg one was rumoured to have iplayer license problems, not that I'm suggesting LG to anyone. Samsung looks quite stunning.
Bit put of touch tbh though. :-\
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Make sure the valves don't take too long to warm up. :o :o :o
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Make sure the valves don't take too long to warm up. :o :o :o
That's my kind of TV....... :y :y And no way on Gods earth would I pay £750 for a TV, I don't care how fancy it may be...... ::) ::) :-X Sadly this is the sort of equipment I often see in the homes of families on benefits....... :-X :-X :-X
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Do your usual thing Phil and go to Costco and 'borrow' a few!! :) Eventually you'll find one you like!! :y
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Lots of interesting deals out there, what ever you choose stick the model number in google and do a price comparison, then check jhon lewis, if they sell it, they will price match like for like and they add a 5 year warranty to every thing they sell (TV Wise) usually next day delivery from what I heard. :y
Some TV's are having trouble with the online film from netflix (some samsung models at least)
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Sadly not cheap
http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue40es8000/sams-ue40es8000
But wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_VKRuhPKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I have had Samsung and LG and both worked fine (well the LG did until the house was hit by lightening and then was replaced by the Samsung)
Most TV's have similar internals, if you can afford an OLED then go for it but I have found LCD is better than LED (not OLED).
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Found this interesting, 'cos I didn't know what OLED was. :y
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/oled1.htm
I always seem to get the best electronic equipment for features, technology and value then six months later it is superceeded ::)
For example the current TV a Toshiba 42" LED with usless dongle ( not at £50, only got XP) was about the best to suit our needs and 6 months later out come Smart TV's, so I have to trundle up to my office to watch IPlayer stuff on the 20" computer screen.
Yes, I got Betamax, nice Phillips CRT, Mini Disk just as the world and his dog went the other way. ;D ;D ;D
I agree with Mr S visit showrooms select the TV of your choice and the Google it for the best deal :y
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Panasoinc Viera's are about the best at the moment with the T5's coming with 5 year warranty to......OLED is way out of your price bracket sadly!
+1 excellent tv :y
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Panasoinc Viera's are about the best at the moment with the T5's coming with 5 year warranty to......OLED is way out of your price bracket sadly!
+1 excellent tv :y
Yep, we've got a Panasonic LED backlit LCD of the previous generation and are very happy with it.
Incidentally, I was all set to buy a similar Samsung model until a friend of the family bought the same model I was considering and it had a shockingly bad picture. Far worse than I'd seen demonstrated in the shops. It turns out that, at that time at least, it was luck of the draw what panel you ended up with, and the shops all appear to demo the decent ones. ::)
I wouldn't buy a CCFL backlit TV now as LED sets are every bit as capable, if not better, and the CCFL tubes and associated inverters are generally the least reliable part of the set.
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Sadly not cheap
http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue40es8000/sams-ue40es8000 (http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue40es8000/sams-ue40es8000)
But wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_VKRuhPKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_VKRuhPKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
I bought an ES7000 in june .. nothing to complain about.. only its price :(
ps: the idiots need to include a keyboard with that tv.. and I paid an extra for a touchpad mouse including keyboard >:(
pps: sometimes it needs a restart like all pcs ::)
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I'd still go Plasma over all the alternatives (besides perhaps OLED) - I would have last time had a 70" Plasma been even remotely affordable.
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I'd still go Plasma over all the alternatives (besides perhaps OLED) - I would have last time had a 70" Plasma been even remotely affordable.
If you want to remain in the out dated 20th century then be my guest!
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I'd still go Plasma over all the alternatives (besides perhaps OLED) - I would have last time had a 70" Plasma been even remotely affordable.
If you want to remain in the out dated 20th century then be my guest!
With more vibrant colours, faster response time and better black levels? Yes please! ;)
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Which is not the case and has not been for close on 8 years.
Specs are one thing and real world another, plasma being an excited phosphor based technology is not able to support good blacks in real world applications and the pre-charge, charge, and discharge cycles requried for the individual pixels are a major limit on repsonse, LCD is real world much faster.
LED back lighting sorted colours years ago.
As said, old hat :y
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In addition, you need to think about the whole range of luminance. Yes, you might get a little backlight bleed on an LCD set if you're watching it in pitch darkness, but I've always found Plasma a bit dim at the other end of the scale whereas LED backlit LCD sets can deliver quiet impressive levels of brightness. Is the "dynamic range" actually any different?
I find a lot of plasma displays flicker, irritatingly too. None of that with a 400Hz LED/LCD.
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Which is not the case and has not been for close on 8 years.
Specs are one thing and real world another, plasma being an excited phosphor based technology is not able to support good blacks in real world applications and the pre-charge, charge, and discharge cycles requried for the individual pixels are a major limit on repsonse, LCD is real world much faster.
LED back lighting sorted colours years ago.
As said, old hat :y
Did I mention that I have a 3-year old Plasma (LG) and a brand new LED (Sharp Aquos 8-series) side by side? The blacks are better on the Plasma, no backlight leakage, flatter, truer colours (and yes, both are calibrated)...
Maybe if I'd spent another £1000 on a Panasonic LED it might be closer.
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Some of the vary latest Tv's available today knock my experience into a cocked hat as its ages since I looked. We are very happy with our Plazma we bought at the time, as it kicked the arse of EVERYTHING else to my eye.
LCD LED may look good on paper, but that and retina burning levels of brightness don't fool me tbh. Especially looking through the net curtain affect those sets had at the time.
Passing those smart tv's in Costco though, purely from a picture point of view and forgetting the smart aspect, clearly things have moved in considerably since our last debate in the subject that I remember.
However I am highly warey of choosing anything to buy based purely on spec. It doesnt always convert into a good experience.
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before buying samsung I have watched+compared numerous models side by side..
surprisingly the picture is better than the original itself.. ;D and if you have a samsung mobile you can watch videos and pictures without any physical connection..what the man didnt tell is that it sometimes picks your words and pass into command mode.. or if your hands are big and talking with hand movements again it passes to command mode :P
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Do your usual thing Phil and go to Costco and 'borrow' a few!! :) Eventually you'll find one you like!! :y
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-[ Nice one. I am thinking of at least looking as it is unlimited (almost) return policy. But most are out of budget :(
Panasoinc Viera's are about the best at the moment with the T5's coming with 5 year warranty to......OLED is way out of your price bracket sadly!
Got a 32" viera at the mo - but the internet seems to be wifi only so would be second choice
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Sadly not cheap
http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue40es8000/sams-ue40es8000 (http://www.froogle.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue40es8000/sams-ue40es8000)
But wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_VKRuhPKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za_VKRuhPKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
I bought an ES7000 in june .. nothing to complain about.. only its price :(
ps: the idiots need to include a keyboard with that tv.. and I paid an extra for a touchpad mouse including keyboard >:(
pps: sometimes it needs a restart like all pcs ::)
Definately a wow but really a little beyond what i'm after at the moment
Thanks
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Which is not the case and has not been for close on 8 years.
Specs are one thing and real world another, plasma being an excited phosphor based technology is not able to support good blacks in real world applications and the pre-charge, charge, and discharge cycles requried for the individual pixels are a major limit on repsonse, LCD is real world much faster.
LED back lighting sorted colours years ago.
As said, old hat :y
Odd then that I have yet to see a LCD that can keep up with a Panasonic plasma panel. Also 3D artefacts are so much worse in the LCD TVs I have tried. Much so that I have given up on 3d and LCD ever working effectively. LCDs are brighter, I will give you that, but on pure picture quality they just seem like the poorer option.
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I wouldn't buy a CCFL backlit TV now as LED sets are every bit as capable, if not better, and the CCFL tubes and associated inverters are generally the least reliable part of the set.
Gotta agree, after having to turn my (5yr old in 4 days) Sammy with CFL after the front room filled wit smoke. I think it was telly, although I can't repeat the smoke. Could have been the amp, MCE or DVD player (all plugged back in and on now) or th Wii (which wasn't on).
Reckon it was telly, as I've noticed a couple of flickers, as if the CFL was going off briefly.
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As others say, Plasma is a dead end technology, who's only advantage now (and for the past few years), has been a glass front (which is also a downside).
Too many LCD sets have really shitty electronic 'picture enhancement', which really need to be disabled.
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All these fast advances in TV technology, mean you have to be spending £££ all the time on the latest. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Take my experience as an example, I replaced my 405 line black and white set when it no longer worked, but all I got at great expense was another black and white set, and I extra measly channel, BBC2, where most of the time when it started all you got was a child holding a card with loads of calibration lines and black and white colour scales on it. Okay at 625 lines the picture is a bit better, but it was not worth all that extra expense. >:( >:( >:( >:(
I've been complaining since February at the loss of my TV signal. Apparently I need something called a Freeview box, an aerial upgrade, why? :-[ I grown really attached to my wire coat hanger aerial and a TV with something called a SCART connector or a digital TV but they said I would get colour, high definition and more channels. What more poxy test cards, and I told them whats was wrong with 625 lines and whats so bloody marvelous in watching Charlie Chaplin and the Keystone Cops in colour, when I tried it on a friends colour TV I couldn't see any bloody difference. I wasn't getting caught again, so sod them, no more TV. Thats it I've told them. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I have a 51 inch samsung 3D plasma+1. Had it around a year.We paid £670 from comet.
I'm not one for technical garb, all I can tell you is the picture is fantastic, I have a 37inch LED upstairs and I can't see much of a difference.
The 3D is amazing, no flicker or any other problems.