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Title: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Varche on 17 October 2012, 16:27:34
Been watching the repeats of the televised debates up ahead of the election. It reminds me very much of Britains choices!!

 Mitt Romney's comment that he has 'binders full of women'.  ;D ;D ;D

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/mitt-romneys-binders-full-of-women-best-spoofs-gallery#image=1

I wonder which will be the best for the well being of the world? My suspicion is Obama.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 17 October 2012, 16:37:38
I would rather have my old granny in the Whitehouse than Obama.Hes their Tony Blair.Got the style & salesmans charm,but a complete lack of substance,and definitely not to be trusted.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 October 2012, 16:41:21
Republican presidents tend to be unusually "thick". I'm thinking of Ronald Reagan and George.W. Bush  who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm not overly impressed with Obama, but Preferable to Romney in my opinion, who would be better suited to selling pre-owned automobiles.  :)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 October 2012, 17:12:05
hanged or shot , does it matter  ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: the alarming man on 17 October 2012, 18:09:38
I would rather have my old granny in the Whitehouse than Obama.Hes their Tony Blair.Got the style & salesmans charm,but a complete lack of substance,and definitely not to be trusted.


yeah he is also too trigger happy...i can see iran being the next port of call if he gets in ....hopefully we don't follow...god help us all if we do
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: henryd on 17 October 2012, 18:16:14
hanged or shot , does it matter  ;D

my thoughts were who gives a s... :-X
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Gaffers on 17 October 2012, 18:22:57
hanged or shot , does it matter  ;D

my thoughts were who gives a s... :-X

As someone who most likely will emigrate to the US next year, it interests me alot.  Especially as I will be working in a market which enjoys lots of government contracts.  One side of me wants Obama, Mr relaxed and steady eddie.  Having been one of those who went abroad at the whim of the UK Govt (in support of the US) in 2 different war zones I do not want a trigger-happy elephant in No 1600.  Then again, if Mitt gets in there the market I will be working in will get even bigger than it currently is. 

In the UK I am squarely and firmly Con/UKIP, but in the US I would be considered a swing voter and as yet I am somewhat undecided.....
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 17 October 2012, 18:47:00
Republican presidents tend to be unusually "thick". I'm thinking of Ronald Reagan and George.W. Bush  who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm not overly impressed with Obama, but Preferable to Romney in my opinion, who would be better suited to selling pre-owned automobiles.  :)

Reagan was far from thick,he was just good at acting thick as it was a useful way of avoiding having to answer questions he didnt want to answer.His tactics at bringing the USSR and negotiating away the ludicrous amounts of nuclear weapons on both sides was brilliant,and no-one else had succeeded in doing it,despite trying everything they knew.
George W. Im still not sure about tbh.He certainly gave an impression which lived up to his stereotype in the press etc. but quite a few intelligent thoughtful people who met him,said he was the complete opposite of his image.
I would rather have him than Obama,that much Im sure of.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 October 2012, 19:06:30
Republican presidents tend to be unusually "thick". I'm thinking of Ronald Reagan and George.W. Bush  who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm not overly impressed with Obama, but Preferable to Romney in my opinion, who would be better suited to selling pre-owned automobiles.  :)

Reagan was far from thick,he was just good at acting thick as it was a useful way of avoiding having to answer questions he didnt want to answer.His tactics at bringing the USSR and negotiating away the ludicrous amounts of nuclear weapons on both sides was brilliant,and no-one else had succeeded in doing it,despite trying everything they knew.
George W. Im still not sure about tbh.He certainly gave an impression which lived up to his stereotype in the press etc. but quite a few intelligent thoughtful people who met him,said he was the complete opposite of his image.
I would rather have him than Obama,that much Im sure of.

Was he thick?......yes.

Was he good at acting thick?......yes.

FDR was the best president the yanks ever elected.......even if he was a cripple. ::) ::) :y
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 17 October 2012, 19:09:19
I would bet that most U.S. citizens would love nothing more than to have their country in the same state now as it was when Raygun was in the Whitehouse. ::)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 October 2012, 19:15:23
I would bet that most U.S. citizens would love nothing more than to have their country in the same state now as it was when Raygun was in the Whitehouse. ::)


I think you're right about that, Albs. The eighties was a time for optimism, before everything went tit's up.

Mind you, when Thatcher and Reagan were huddled together, WW3 was never very far away. :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 October 2012, 19:15:38
my question is : do you still believe USA is is governed by the president  ???
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 17 October 2012, 19:27:03
I would bet that most U.S. citizens would love nothing more than to have their country in the same state now as it was when Raygun was in the Whitehouse. ::)


I think you're right about that, Albs. The eighties was a time for optimism, before everything went tit's up.

Mind you, when Thatcher and Reagan were huddled together, WW3 was never very far away. :-\ :-\
Quite the reverse.Their strong determined approach was the thing which moved the worls further away from that possibility than it had been for many years.The Soviets got the message loud and clear that neither of them could be bullied or pushed around.Then the negotiating started,and as someone once said "when youve got them by the balls,their hearts & minds will follow". ;)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Rods2 on 17 October 2012, 20:31:09
Republican presidents tend to be unusually "thick". I'm thinking of Ronald Reagan and George.W. Bush  who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm not overly impressed with Obama, but Preferable to Romney in my opinion, who would be better suited to selling pre-owned automobiles.  :)

Wrong on Reagan as that was how the US liberal media portrayed him and he kind of liked it as in his own words "opponents underestimate me so I get more done, more easily" which was being politically smart. What I didn't like about Reagan was his deficit spending, but that is loose change compared to the deficits and debts Obummer has racked up in the last 5 years.

If Obummer gets in again, then their economy will be even worse than ours was left by McRuin.  :o :o :o

Where McRuin followed by CaMoron have firmly closed the UK for business, as Obummer is doing and will continue to do for the US. The only thing worse would be if either country had Hollande.  :o :o :o

I've done quite a lot of business in the US in the past and their form of capitalism and business culture is ruthless. To be successful you have to be smart, ruthless and dedicated, the alternative is bankruptcy. 7am breakfast meetings are the norm over there and you will still be working while having and evening meal and discussing a potential deal with another customer. I would trust Romney on the US economy, which is by far their biggest challenge, that I would the incumbent smooth talking sleazeball lawyer.

We should all want to see the US economy fixed, where it is the world's biggest as the when the US sneezes the world catches a cold still very much applies.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: cleggy on 17 October 2012, 22:15:32
Republican presidents tend to be unusually "thick". I'm thinking of Ronald Reagan and George.W. Bush  who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm not overly impressed with Obama, but Preferable to Romney in my opinion, who would be better suited to selling pre-owned automobiles.  :)

Wrong on Reagan as that was how the US liberal media portrayed him and he kind of liked it as in his own words "opponents underestimate me so I get more done, more easily" which was being politically smart. What I didn't like about Reagan was his deficit spending, but that is loose change compared to the deficits and debts Obummer has racked up in the last 5 years.

If Obummer gets in again, then their economy will be even worse than ours was left by McRuin.  :o :o :o

Where McRuin followed by CaMoron have firmly closed the UK for business, as Obummer is doing and will continue to do for the US. The only thing worse would be if either country had Hollande.  :o :o :o

I've done quite a lot of business in the US in the past and their form of capitalism and business culture is ruthless. To be successful you have to be smart, ruthless and dedicated, the alternative is bankruptcy. 7am breakfast meetings are the norm over there and you will still be working while having and evening meal and discussing a potential deal with another customer. I would trust Romney on the US economy, which is by far their biggest challenge, that I would the incumbent smooth talking sleazeball lawyer.

We should all want to see the US economy fixed, where it is the world's biggest as the when the US sneezes the world catches a cold still very much applies.

That is all I would trust him with,  as for Foreign Policy OH! DEAR. He really needs a good team behind him and prove to have one.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 October 2012, 23:15:42
Used to listen to radio 4 on the way to work but most of my commute is now taken up with US election cr@p so I've gone elsewhere. >:(

Really couldn't give a damn, TBH. ::)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 18 October 2012, 12:32:46
I would bet that most U.S. citizens would love nothing more than to have their country in the same state now as it was when Raygun was in the Whitehouse. ::)


I think you're right about that, Albs. The eighties was a time for optimism, before everything went tit's up.

Mind you, when Thatcher and Reagan were huddled together, WW3 was never very far away. :-\ :-\
Quite the reverse.Their strong determined approach was the thing which moved the worls further away from that possibility than it had been for many years.The Soviets got the message loud and clear that neither of them could be bullied or pushed around.[/highlight]Then the negotiating started,and as someone once said "when youve got them by the balls,their hearts & minds will follow". ;)



Iirc, it was more along the lines of the USSR's grain harvest had failed for about 3 years in a row.
The USSR could not survive without the USA's grain imports.
If reagan had told them to pish orf, the soviets would have had no choice but to come flooding across europe and by the end of the week, we would have all been glowing in the dark.

Carter used the same tactics in the late 70's with the "SALT" talks.

As for WW3, lets just say that during the 80's things had come to a very dangerious impase.
We had Greenam Common full of cruise missiles.  West Germany was full of Pershing 2's and the eastern block was full of ss20 / ss22's.
If that lot had gone up, The UK and most of europe would not excist.

Something had to change and thank god it did  :)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 18 October 2012, 13:07:51
I wonder what form the change would have taken though,if Obama had been in the Whitehouse,and Blair,Brown or Camoron in Donwning Street ?  ;)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Rods2 on 18 October 2012, 20:03:05
I wonder what form the change would have taken though,if Obama had been in the Whitehouse,and Blair,Brown or Camoron in Donwning Street ?  ;)

It would be something on the lines of:

Доброе утро, не является нашим президентом Путиным замечательный товарищ Albitz.

Он, конечно, товарищ Rods2.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 18 October 2012, 20:04:14
 :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Rods2 on 18 October 2012, 22:39:16
Захватывающий день сегодня, товарищ Albitz, я получил дату доставки для этого чудо советской техники, мой Москвич G4. Я получу его 21 ноября 2019. Я не могу ждать, только чудом массовое производство советское могли поставить машину так быстро.

Я должен был спросить, если она поставляется с утра или днем, человек по телефону спросили, почему это имело значение. Я сказал, у меня было назначение на стационарные, чтобы исправить отопления в первой половине дня. Только русский может ЭФФЕКТИВНОСТЬ исправить мою отопления это быстро.

Я видел фильм в кинотеатре (телевидения еще не зафиксированы с 1972 года, но я уверен, что я получу дату в ближайшее время) прошлой ночью нашего Министерства правды, показывая в США у них есть крошечные дрова, чтобы нагреть всю свою деревянную лачуге, с тысячами умирали от холода каждую зиму и их магазинах нет еды, поэтому они должны копаться в фермерских хозяйствах для корней. Бьюсь об заклад, они хотели бы они были наши русские передовые технологии отопления и колхозов.

Любые новости о дате поставки для вашего нового Trabant еще нет. Я знаю, вы только заказал его 4 года идти, поэтому мы не можем ожидать, что наши могучие экономики под контролем нашей высшей советской системы, чтобы обеспечить даты пока нет. Разве я тел вы о фильме нашего Министерства правды, они говорят американцы должны идти всюду, поскольку они не имеют автомобилей для использования в гражданских целях, почему они не переходят в превосходной советской системы?
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 18 October 2012, 22:42:54
Couldnt have put it better myself. :y




 ??? :-\ :D ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Nickbat on 18 October 2012, 22:55:06
Couldnt have put it better myself. :y




 ??? :-\ :D ;D

An exciting day today, Comrade Albitz, I got a delivery date for this marvel of Soviet technology, my Muscovite G4. I got it November 21, 2019. I can not wait for a miracle Soviet mass production could put the car so quickly.

I had to ask if it is delivered in the morning or afternoon, the man on the phone asked why it mattered. I said, I had an appointment to fixed to fix the heating in the morning. Russian only can effectively fix my heating it quickly.

I saw the movie in the theater (television has not been committed since 1972, but I'm sure I'll get a date in the near future) last night of our Ministry of Truth, showing the U.S. they have a tiny wood to heat their entire wooden shack, with thousands died from the cold every winter and store them no food, so they have to dig into the roots of the farms. I bet they wished they had our Russian advanced heating technology and collective farms.

Any news about the delivery date for your new Trabant yet. I know you just ordered it 4 years to go, so we can not expect our mighty economy under the control of our highest Soviet system to provide a date yet. Did I tel you about the film from our Ministry of Truth, they say Americans need to walk everywhere because they do not have cars for civilian use, why they do not move in perfect the Soviet system?

(Google translate)  ;) ;D :y
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Nickbat on 18 October 2012, 22:57:25
Товарищ Rods2, вы шутник!

 ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 18 October 2012, 22:57:42
I already worked all that out in my head Nick. :y

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 18 October 2012, 22:58:28
Товарищ Rods2, вы шутник!

 ;) ;D ;D

Yeah,well,thats easy for you to say. :D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Rods2 on 18 October 2012, 23:28:21
Товарищ Rods2, вы шутник!

 ;) ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Должен пойти, товарищи Albitz и Nickbat как я только что слышал, что они были поставки рыбы в магазине на углу очереди только 300 человек. Где она составляет от -20 сегодня, я только что закончил делать 20л водки и взять бутылку с собой, чтобы сохранить тепло в течение 3 до 7 часов.

Я говорил вам о фильме нашего Министерства Правды, где в США они должны стоять в очереди до 3 дней, чтобы покупать вещи. Да, они даже показали картину. Название магазина в окне была "продажа". Так что если вы когда-нибудь получить визу для посещения Нью-Йорка убедиться, что вы не идете в магазин под названием "Sale". Советские магазинах намного лучше только нормально очереди от 5 до 10 часов.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 18 October 2012, 23:30:07
You may say that.I couldnt possibly comment. :P ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Nickbat on 18 October 2012, 23:40:39
Товарищ Rods2, вы шутник!

 ;) ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Должен пойти, товарищи Albitz и Nickbat как я только что слышал, что они были поставки рыбы в магазине на углу очереди только 300 человек. Где она составляет от -20 сегодня, я только что закончил делать 20л водки и взять бутылку с собой, чтобы сохранить тепло в течение 3 до 7 часов.

Я говорил вам о фильме нашего Министерства Правды, где в США они должны стоять в очереди до 3 дней, чтобы покупать вещи. Да, они даже показали картину. Название магазина в окне была "продажа". Так что если вы когда-нибудь получить визу для посещения Нью-Йорка убедиться, что вы не идете в магазин под названием "Sale". Советские магазинах намного лучше только нормально очереди от 5 до 10 часов.

 ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Rods2 on 18 October 2012, 23:50:59
В ожидании покупать рыбу, вы не поверите, но ЗИЛ проехал мимо со старшим заместителем партии "СЕМ" в нем.

Если вам нужно, чтобы сократить время ожидания для телефона, то вам нужно подкупить кого-то называют "ТБ". "Вампиры, LazyDocker ChrisGixer" говорят, он хочет взятку черном рынке фильм о шведской поп-группы. Я им не верю я думаю, что эти три работы на КГБ.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: albitz on 19 October 2012, 00:09:16
How very dare you. >:(

 ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 October 2012, 10:36:15
呸!你很多生活在过去!洋基东部比​​莫斯科担心的事情,这些天......   :)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Gaffers on 19 October 2012, 10:43:00
Am I the only one seeing foreign font in this thread?  :o
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: ZacVegas on 19 October 2012, 11:13:36
Whoever wins the race to the Whitehouse, they are bound to start another couple of wars somewhere :y
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: cleggy on 19 October 2012, 11:33:02
Am I the only one seeing foreign font in this thread?  :o

Only take away orders, one for Crispy Duck, followed with sweet and sour Pork and egg fried rice with Prawn Crackers on the side the other is for Borsch followed by Goulash and Beetroot the rest is just a drinks order, mainly vodka. :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Entwood on 19 October 2012, 11:35:36
Am I the only one seeing foreign font in this thread?  :o

http://translate.google.com  :)

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В ожидании покупать рыбу, вы не поверите, но ЗИЛ проехал мимо со старшим заместителем партии "СЕМ" в нем.

Если вам нужно, чтобы сократить время ожидания для телефона, то вам нужно подкупить кого-то называют "ТБ". "Вампиры, LazyDocker ChrisGixer" говорят, он хочет взятку черном рынке фильм о шведской поп-группы. Я им не верю я думаю, что эти три работы на КГБ.

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Waiting to buy fish, you do not believe me, but drove past ZIL with the senior deputy of the "SEM" in it.

If you need to shorten the waiting time for a phone, you need to bribe someone called "TB". "Vampires, LazyDocker ChrisGixer" saying he wants to bribe the black market a film about the Swedish pop group. I do not trust them, I think that these three works for the KGB.

Boys are playing .. :)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Varche on 19 October 2012, 12:44:16
The funding of the American campaign is astronomical.

About £425 million for Obama (mostly from private donors ) and £400 million for Romney (mostly from corporate donors). That is money that just goes once the election has happened. http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

There is on top of this other dark money spent. No wonder the media love it!!

I read that in total, the two major parties' presidential campaigns have raised $1,875,000,000 this election season. That is over £1,000,000,000. Mind boggling.

I dare say European politics will have more of this costly circus in years to come.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Rods2 on 19 October 2012, 15:40:20
The funding of the American campaign is astronomical.

About £425 million for Obama (mostly from private donors ) and £400 million for Romney (mostly from corporate donors). That is money that just goes once the election has happened. http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

There is on top of this other dark money spent. No wonder the media love it!!

I read that in total, the two major parties' presidential campaigns have raised $1,875,000,000 this election season. That is over £1,000,000,000. Mind boggling.

I dare say European politics will have more of this costly circus in years to come.

Don't worry that won't happen, when in 2015 the Federated States of Europe is created, all important positions will be appointed like the EU Commission members are now. Communist Barosso who is creating this treaty will see to that. It is the communist way. The PIIGS will be broke and have been subdued by then and will gladly give up their democracy in exchange for German Euros and food.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Mitt Romney or Obama?
Post by: Varche on 19 October 2012, 16:03:46
The funding of the American campaign is astronomical.

About £425 million for Obama (mostly from private donors ) and £400 million for Romney (mostly from corporate donors). That is money that just goes once the election has happened. http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

There is on top of this other dark money spent. No wonder the media love it!!

I read that in total, the two major parties' presidential campaigns have raised $1,875,000,000 this election season. That is over £1,000,000,000. Mind boggling.

I dare say European politics will have more of this costly circus in years to come.

Don't worry that won't happen, when in 2015 the Federated States of Europe is created, all important positions will be appointed like the EU Commission members are now. Communist Barosso who is creating this treaty will see to that. It is the communist way. The PIIGS will be broke and have been subdued by then and will gladly give up their democracy in exchange for German Euros and food.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

I went into one of our two local builders merchants yesterday. Five years ago they employed the dad, daughter, son. Plus a woman who worked in the large tile showroom area. plus two men who loaded in the yard, oh and a cleaner. Today it is just the daughter. She does everything. Iasked her if Spain would be better off out of the euro. Definitely not - prices would rocket. How long for the crisis to be over (ten years I suggested) Ha, much sooner than that. Can't see building work booming again here for ten years (except Euro Vegas near Madrid)