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Title: log burner
Post by: Steve B on 20 October 2012, 21:34:08
trailer 6ft x 4ft 18inch deep.. filled with logs for the log burner £80 del to your door.  is this a good price any advice. :y :y
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: steve6367 on 20 October 2012, 21:52:40
Depends entirely on the quality of the wood. The amount of energy (heat) in the wood is determined by its weight and so if possible buy your wood by weight no volume.

Steve
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Steve B on 20 October 2012, 22:08:00
so do you think avoid this one.....im a first timer on the wood burner :y
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Varche on 20 October 2012, 22:45:31
If it is pine or unseasoned timber I wood (pun intended) stay away from it. Pine,cypress and the like has less calorific value and unseasoned wood causes problems with tar and soot.It isn't unreasonable to ask what kind of wood it is and when it was cut. Another issue unless you have a BIG log burner is to make sure that the logs will actually fit in your burner. The worst problem you can have is to get three quarters of a log in to a raging fire and then get it stuck. You only do that once.

Once you get into the routine(assuming you have somewhere to store logs dry you can buy green wood this year and use it the next . That will save a bit of money.

I use olive logs I do myself. Green they are heavier than when seasoned ( i wait 18 months) Here most people buy from merchants (drive in, weigh your vehicle and then weigh and pay on exit). Seasoned Olive wood is 18 cents a kilo. That would be about £150 a UK ton. I'll list some on Ebay BIN plus Pand P if you like
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: omega3000 on 21 October 2012, 10:52:16
Didnt realise wood should be dried out for that long  :-X We use to chuck anything on our open fire years ago and seems pine use to spit bits out all the time , the best stuff to burn was compressed chipwood bobbins . Ive seen brickettes made for fires made out of mashed up news paper  :)
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Olympia5776 on 21 October 2012, 13:36:11
Yep , I'd agree with Varche steer clear of Pine , unseasoned and WET timber.
I've got a couple of large multi fuel stoves ( best things I ever bought ) and use seasoned Birch or Willow which grows in abundance here . I have some Pine that was cut two years ago but there is a huge difference in heat from it .
I usually cut my own as I am surrounded by wild trees but when I do buy it I get it from a farmer friend of mine and I pay €220 for a Farm Trailer load which is approx 4M x 2.5M x 1M high chopped and split .
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Rods2 on 21 October 2012, 15:09:51
Yep , I'd agree with Varche steer clear of Pine , unseasoned and WET timber.
I've got a couple of large multi fuel stoves ( best things I ever bought ) and use seasoned Birch or Willow which grows in abundance here . I have some Pine that was cut two years ago but there is a huge difference in heat from it .
I usually cut my own as I am surrounded by wild trees but when I do buy it I get it from a farmer friend of mine and I pay €220 for a Farm Trailer load which is approx 4M x 2.5M x 1M high chopped and split .

I burn willow at my house in France, where they grow fast as my hedgerow. But they do burn quite quickly. You can't beat oak for heat and burn length.
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Mrs Cakey on 21 October 2012, 15:14:08
I get about the same size load of 9+ year seasoned, cut and split hardwood, for £90 and he even stacks it in the wood shed for me :y

As said, you need to ask what wood it is ;)
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: mantahatch on 21 October 2012, 16:31:39
We, many years ago bought a chainsaw, axe and splitting chisels etc. We do it all by ourselves, the old saying burning wood keeps you warm twice is so true. Also the whole family get involved, I and my eldest cut and split it and the youngest transport it and my wife stacks it.
If you are burning wood to save money, buying wood is no good. If you are burning wood just for a bit of extra heat or visual purposes then ok to buy it.

Often go for a walk in the woods and come back with fallen branch.

I also tow my trailer quite a bit. There are some nice laybys ( I wont name the roads on here ) that are worth pulling into a couple of times a year. Load up the fallen branches and off.

I would like to add I have never cut down a tree on property I don't own or have the owners permission to be on, but the local woods are Forestry Commision and walking off with the odd fallen branch may or may not be against the rules/laws, I don't know but have never been challenged..

Burning wood can be very cheap with just just a little effort.

Any wood will burn nicely if aged enough. Pine is horrible when green. But store it long enough and it burns fine. My favourite is apple wood.
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Varche on 21 October 2012, 17:16:46
We, many years ago bought a chainsaw, axe and splitting chisels etc. We do it all by ourselves, the old saying burning wood keeps you warm twice is so true. Also the whole family get involved, I and my eldest cut and split it and the youngest transport it and my wife stacks it.
If you are burning wood to save money, buying wood is no good. If you are burning wood just for a bit of extra heat or visual purposes then ok to buy it.

Often go for a walk in the woods and come back with fallen branch.

I also tow my trailer quite a bit. There are some nice laybys ( I wont name the roads on here ) that are worth pulling into a couple of times a year. Load up the fallen branches and off.

I would like to add I have never cut down a tree on property I don't own or have the owners permission to be on, but the local woods are Forestry Commision and walking off with the odd fallen branch may or may not be against the rules/laws, I don't know but have never been challenged..

Burning wood can be very cheap with just just a little effort.

Any wood will burn nicely if aged enough. Pine is horrible when green. But store it long enough and it burns fine. My favourite is apple wood.

I have taken the liberty of putting your name down for a working holiday in April!! :y :y
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: jonathanh on 21 October 2012, 17:17:49
should be about £100 a ton for seasoned hardwood  - that's about market rate.  you can pay more for kiln dried stuff but that's a waste IMHO

also i did sopt something on the bay earlier today a listing in lutterworth for pallet offcuts - trailer load for £10.  the listing ended this morning - search under " trailer firewood"

oh and if you don't burn clean wood, 9 i.e. young stuff with lots of moisture or sap you'll soot & tar the flue
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: mantahatch on 21 October 2012, 17:25:04
We, many years ago bought a chainsaw, axe and splitting chisels etc. We do it all by ourselves, the old saying burning wood keeps you warm twice is so true. Also the whole family get involved, I and my eldest cut and split it and the youngest transport it and my wife stacks it.
If you are burning wood to save money, buying wood is no good. If you are burning wood just for a bit of extra heat or visual purposes then ok to buy it.

Often go for a walk in the woods and come back with fallen branch.

I also tow my trailer quite a bit. There are some nice laybys ( I wont name the roads on here ) that are worth pulling into a couple of times a year. Load up the fallen branches and off.

I would like to add I have never cut down a tree on property I don't own or have the owners permission to be on, but the local woods are Forestry Commision and walking off with the odd fallen branch may or may not be against the rules/laws, I don't know but have never been challenged..

Burning wood can be very cheap with just just a little effort.

Any wood will burn nicely if aged enough. Pine is horrible when green. But store it long enough and it burns fine. My favourite is apple wood.

I have taken the liberty of putting your name down for a working holiday in April!! :y :y

Careful what you wish for Varche. We may just take you up on your offer. Next year is not looking good for us on the holiday front  :(
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: aaronjb on 21 October 2012, 18:42:42
If anyone wants a trailer full of bits of English Oak (chopped down last year but been stored in the rain and currently part buried under soil) .. feel free to turn up here and take them away ;) Mostly cut into sections about 12" long and anywhere from 6" to 12" diameter.

There's enough to fill my Erde 143 trailer, I reckon.
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: scimmy_man on 21 October 2012, 20:58:36
I just had a second trailer full of softwood offcuts delivered,
10x6 x 4 foot high £20.

get in touch with your local joinery works
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Steve B on 21 October 2012, 21:41:48
asked him tonight what wood is it.and he told me chestnut and ash  :y
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 October 2012, 21:44:26
I might be wrong but I don't think ash needs much seasoning.  :-\
Title: Re: log burner
Post by: Mrs Cakey on 22 October 2012, 11:20:29
asked him tonight what wood is it.and he told me chestnut and ash  :y
If it's seasoned then it's a good price and can be burnt. Chestnut burns very hot when well seasoned (most of ours is chestnut) but it does crack and spit a little.

If it's not seasoned, it's still a good price but you'll need to store it for a year or 2 to season it