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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Kate on 24 October 2012, 19:23:56
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Getting my new mig next month. Hooray!!
It's a 2003 2.6 CDX saloon model. The newest one I've had before was a T reg MV6 estate.
Just wondering what the differences are? Which is better, old or new?
I'd really like to hear your opinions as I've never driven or been in the youngest models.
Many thanks! :-* :-* :-* :y
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Both very similar to drive.Biggest noticeable difference is the interior.Its a matter of opinion which one looks better,but the facelist interior is definitely not as hard wearing as the previous versions.
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Horses for courses really :-\
My current Omega is my first FL model, and I love it, especially when it's running :o
Anyway, I prefer the aesthetic of the newer model outside, but the interior, though nice, is not as robust as my MFL :(
IMHO :y
Be interesting to see what you think ::)
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especially when it's running :o
No joy? :'(
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Thanks. Are the engines different?
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Thanks. Are the engines different?
slightly
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Thanks. Are the engines different?
slightly
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to tell the difference! ;D
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Thanks. Are the engines different?
slightly
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to tell the difference! ;D
You may open the bonnet and think "there's something missing, but can't put your finger on it"
Its basically the same engine :y
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Thanks TB :-*
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Everyone is different on this one, some prefer the Face Lift and some prefer the Pre Face Lift.
I personally prefer the PFL but each to their own!
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Happy for you to bring it round for a quick check-up if you wish. Unless you can wait until the cambelt meet in the new year :y
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Aah the superior face lift. :)
Main driving difference you'll notice, I think, is the drive by wire throttle. Pick up is bit quicker, but not necessarily better under all conditions. Pedal doesn't move when cruise is activated and altered, like the old cable activated pre face lift 2.5/3.0 engines.
There is a lot less gubbins under the 2.6/3.2 bonnet. No icv, no egr, no sai, no plug leads. Much easier to work on.
And you no longer need a paper clip to read the fault codes. :)
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Happy for you to bring it round for a quick check-up if you wish. Unless you can wait until the cambelt meet in the new year :y
Thanks Matt that would be great! :y
The MOT is due on 21st December so it would be useful to know if anything needs doing. :-*
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Aah the superior face lift. :)
Main driving difference you'll notice, I think, is the drive by wire throttle. Pick up is bit quicker, but not necessarily better under all conditions. Pedal doesn't move when cruise is activated and altered, like the old cable activated pre face lift 2.5/3.0 engines.
There is a lot less gubbins under the 2.6/3.2 bonnet. No icv, no egr, no sai, no plug leads. Much easier to work on.
And you no longer need a paper clip to read the fault codes. :)
Sounds like a big improvement. Can you get fault codes without one of those reader devices?
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Aah the superior face lift. :)
Main driving difference you'll notice, I think, is the drive by wire throttle. Pick up is bit quicker, but not necessarily better under all conditions. Pedal doesn't move when cruise is activated and altered, like the old cable activated pre face lift 2.5/3.0 engines.
There is a lot less gubbins under the 2.6/3.2 bonnet. No icv, no egr, no sai, no plug leads. Much easier to work on.
And you no longer need a paper clip to read the fault codes. :)
Sounds like a big improvement. Can you get fault codes without one of those reader devices?
Yep,using the pedal trick instead of the paper clip :y
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Aah the superior face lift. :)
Main driving difference you'll notice, I think, is the drive by wire throttle. Pick up is bit quicker, but not necessarily better under all conditions. Pedal doesn't move when cruise is activated and altered, like the old cable activated pre face lift 2.5/3.0 engines.
There is a lot less gubbins under the 2.6/3.2 bonnet. No icv, no egr, no sai, no plug leads. Much easier to work on.
And you no longer need a paper clip to read the fault codes. :)
Sounds like a big improvement. Can you get fault codes without one of those reader devices?
Yep,using the pedal trick instead of the paper clip :y
That's very useful! :y
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Aah the superior face lift. :)
Main driving difference you'll notice, I think, is the drive by wire throttle. Pick up is bit quicker, but not necessarily better under all conditions. Pedal doesn't move when cruise is activated and altered, like the old cable activated pre face lift 2.5/3.0 engines.
There is a lot less gubbins under the 2.6/3.2 bonnet. No icv, no egr, no sai, no plug leads. Much easier to work on.
And you no longer need a paper clip to read the fault codes. :)
Sounds like a big improvement. Can you get fault codes without one of those reader devices?
Yep,using the pedal trick instead of the paper clip :y
That's very useful! :y
...although only from the engine ecu. Not gear box and other ecu's.
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Aah the superior face lift. :)
Main driving difference you'll notice, I think, is the drive by wire throttle. Pick up is bit quicker, but not necessarily better under all conditions. Pedal doesn't move when cruise is activated and altered, like the old cable activated pre face lift 2.5/3.0 engines.
There is a lot less gubbins under the 2.6/3.2 bonnet. No icv, no egr, no sai, no plug leads. Much easier to work on.
And you no longer need a paper clip to read the fault codes. :)
Sounds like a big improvement. Can you get fault codes without one of those reader devices?
Yep,using the pedal trick instead of the paper clip :y
That's very useful! :y
...although only from the engine ecu. Not gear box and other ecu's.
How many ecu's are there?
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Lots. ;D
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Thanks. Are the engines different?
slightly
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to tell the difference! ;D
You're a woman.......that's fine. :-* ;)
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The engines didn't change with the change from PFL to FL, but about a year after. So you can get a FL with a 2.5 or 3.0l engine.
I prefer the power delivery of the 3.0 over the 3.2, I prefer the automatic gearbox software of the 3.0 (which is miles ahead of the 3.2), and I prefer the interior of the PFL.
If it wasn't for the rust problem, I'd say the superior PFL is a better car.
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Thanks. Are the engines different?
slightly
I'm sure I wouldn't be able to tell the difference! ;D
You're a woman.......that's fine. :-* ;)
Thanks! ;D
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The engines didn't change with the change from PFL to FL, but about a year after. So you can get a FL with a 2.5 or 3.0l engine.
I prefer the power delivery of the 3.0 over the 3.2, I prefer the automatic gearbox software of the 3.0 (which is miles ahead of the 3.2), and I prefer the interior of the PFL.
If it wasn't for the rust problem, I'd say the superior PFL is a better car.
I suppose it's difficult to find a PFL in immaculate condition?
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All down to personal preference of course,but I would say the f/l cars are the better looking,but the earlier cars had a superior interior.
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.... but I would say the f/l cars are the better looking, .....
.... in an Astra G kind of way! ::) ::) ::)
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Can't wait to get my new mig to find out! :D