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Title: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2012, 09:03:14
I thought you could not put a newer plate on an older car? Ie put a 02 plate on a Ford Escort?

But today I saw a classic Merc 300, beautiful example looked like new! But it was on an 03 plate  ???  :-\
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 October 2012, 09:10:22
If it's never been registered, and is essentially unused, then it gets a current registration, which is nice :y

There are a handful of R, S and T reg W124s running around :y
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2012, 09:14:07
It was one of these... & defo on an 03 plate:

(http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/156207d1199576062-my-300-sel-merc-16-6-07-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: Andy B on 26 October 2012, 09:17:30
..... But it was on an 03 plate  ???  :-\

You sure it wasn't a mis-spaced old number ie Oscar rather than zero  :-\  :-\
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2012, 09:19:04
..... But it was on an 03 plate  ???  :-\

You sure it wasn't a mis-spaced old number ie Oscar rather than zero  :-\  :-\

Humm, possible, but in those cases the number plates don't look right. This one looked perfectly normal you would see on an 03 plate car.  :-\
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 October 2012, 09:21:59
It does happen, just not very often :y
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: YZ250 on 26 October 2012, 09:43:06
I thought you could not put a newer plate on an older car? Ie put a 02 plate on a Ford Escort?

But today I saw a classic Merc 300, beautiful example looked like new! But it was on an 03 plate  ???  :-\

I'm sure this is still the case. Chap that works with me has a private plate on retention that he can't put on his car as the plate prefix is newer than his car. He bought the plate with his initials on, not realising this was the case.  ::)
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2012, 10:06:12
Maybe it was imported in 2003, although it was RHD
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: henryd on 26 October 2012, 10:41:23
Maybe it was imported in 2003, although it was RHD

Could of come back from Japan or the channel islands ???
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 October 2012, 11:36:49
Normally, if a car is registered part way through its' life you need documentary proof of the vehicles date of first registration elsewhere in the world, or a certification of "newness" from the manufacturer for it to get an age related plate of that year. If you don't have such documentation, it gets a Q plate.

Either someone has forged some documentation or it's a daft mis-spaced plate, IMHO.
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: dbug on 26 October 2012, 16:14:10
Agree probably mis=spaced to look like an 03 plate
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: IainMcDade on 26 October 2012, 16:36:49
Completely irrelevent, but i thought this was titled "old cars & new RUG" and was expecting a very different first post, tho what i expected is a mystery to even myself  ;D
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2012, 16:48:48
Agree probably mis=spaced to look like an 03 plate

Spacing was correct, for the new style of reg. Also with old system you needed 3 numbers, not two. It was clearly 2 letters, 2 numbers and 3 letters laid out correctly  :)

I missed my usual staff shuttle bus so went to a different place, tempted to go back at same time as this person was dropping someone off, next time try and get a photo  :)
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: Andy B on 26 October 2012, 16:50:57
Agree probably mis=spaced to look like an 03 plate

Spacing was correct, for the new style of reg. Also with old system you needed 3 numbers, not two. It was clearly 2 letters, 2 numbers and 3 letters laid out correctly  :)

.......

Numbers 1 through to 99 were also available. 1 to 20 were originally kept back by DVLA  :y
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: tunnie on 26 October 2012, 16:54:52
Agree probably mis=spaced to look like an 03 plate

Spacing was correct, for the new style of reg. Also with old system you needed 3 numbers, not two. It was clearly 2 letters, 2 numbers and 3 letters laid out correctly  :)

.......

Numbers 1 through to 99 were also available. 1 to 20 were originally kept back by DVLA  :y

Good point well presented  :-[

Like I say it looked fine, not the chav mis-spaced bodges you see. Hopefully I'll see it again
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: feeutfo on 26 October 2012, 17:45:55
There was a member here with a private plate omega showing 04. It was later seen a year or two after the member became inactive, for private sale with 2000 reg.

I've never had a private plate, so not sure what restrictions are in place if somebody buys a newer reg, then registers the car with that number? Will dvla pick it up?
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 October 2012, 18:13:44
Yep, no private plate can indicate that the car is newer than it actually is. :y
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: henryd on 26 October 2012, 18:34:50
Yep, no private plate can indicate that the car is newer than it actually is. :y

When you buy a private plate it even lists what years of vehicle it can be fitted too :y
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: YZ250 on 26 October 2012, 18:47:46
There was a member here with a private plate omega showing 04. It was later seen a year or two after the member became inactive, for private sale with 2000 reg.

I've never had a private plate, so not sure what restrictions are in place if somebody buys a newer reg, then registers the car with that number? Will dvla pick it up?

You sure that wasn't 'Albatross' showing his in the Gallery as a '53' when the plate was actually something like Y153 ***.  :-\

Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: feeutfo on 26 October 2012, 19:19:40
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1278721400
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: YZ250 on 26 October 2012, 19:30:11
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1278721400

Yep, that's the one.  :y Different circumstances I know, as he just hid the 'Y7' for photographic purposes only. Must admit, I thought it was a 53 until I saw it on ABS forum.
Anyway, back to Tunnie's question, as said, plate can't be newer than car.  :y
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: 2woody on 28 October 2012, 11:10:59
Normally, if a car is registered part way through its' life you need documentary proof of the vehicles date of first registration elsewhere in the world, or a certification of "newness" from the manufacturer for it to get an age related plate of that year. If you don't have such documentation, it gets a Q plate.

Either someone has forged some documentation or it's a daft mis-spaced plate, IMHO.

either that, or it's just fallen into a crack - such as :-

imported by a diplomat
imported by a US serviceman
     ( both of which have a short-circuit to DVLA without needing documentation )

or my favourite is that the DVLA person just didn't have a clue and registered it anyway. These are civil servants after all.
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2012, 19:26:15
Normally, if a car is registered part way through its' life you need documentary proof of the vehicles date of first registration elsewhere in the world, or a certification of "newness" from the manufacturer for it to get an age related plate of that year. If you don't have such documentation, it gets a Q plate.

Either someone has forged some documentation or it's a daft mis-spaced plate, IMHO.

either that, or it's just fallen into a crack - such as :-

imported by a diplomat
imported by a US serviceman
     ( both of which have a short-circuit to DVLA without needing documentation )

or my favourite is that the DVLA person just didn't have a clue and registered it anyway. These are civil servants after all.

This is possible. They do not have a clue IME. >:(
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: twiglet on 28 October 2012, 21:58:39
I thought you could not put a newer plate on an older car? Ie put a 02 plate on a Ford Escort?

But today I saw a classic Merc 300, beautiful example looked like new! But it was on an 03 plate  ???  :-\

Ford were still punting out Ford Escort vans, right up to 52 plates...  ;D
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: Keith ABS on 30 October 2012, 09:39:48
  I did a plate on both of my boys cars using standard letters but moved the spacing. They both fooled about 75% of the people who saw them. One was LG 04 74V on a Mini that is now in the States and the other was on a Calibra L5 51 WGD that is probably written off now judging by the way the new owner drove off in it. I could get it done to my ,mig  W6 61 ***. Would look differant!!! ;D
Keith B
Title: Re: Old Cars & New Reg
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 01 November 2012, 15:56:48
I used to have a mint 190e until  3 years ago, still look at Classic merc dealers in case something catches my eye, there was a 300 series unregistered at one of them a while back , I believe it was up for around £20,000  metallic green in colour, so as someone mentioned earlier  would have got current reg.I have had private plates for the last 25 years ,all rules are displayed on documents when purchased,you cannot make a vehicle appear newer than it is.