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Title: Windows 8
Post by: llewellyn237 on 28 October 2012, 11:17:30
Anyone took a test drive yet?
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 28 October 2012, 11:54:27
No, took ages to have a play on a Vista laptop I bought, didnt like that, Since upgraded to Windows 7 and not 100% with allthough better and smoother in a lot of ways I still struggle with some of the things that were so simple in XP.

So unless windows 8 is a big improvement am not in a rush to move on. :-\
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2012, 16:04:33
Been using the pre release ones for a couple of years, like the step from XP to the far superior Vista, took a few weeks to understand it.

No plans to buy it, I'll wait until the PCs/Laptops need replacing, and they will probably come with Win8.

My Media Centre is staying as Win7, as Win8 MCE is a chargable add-on.  Plus, Remote Potato will probably only work with Win7, and I do love my Remote Potato :)
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Bionic on 28 October 2012, 16:11:34
Yes, I have tried it too and was not impressed, I was involved in the pre-test release testing phase too, and like many others who have have decided that it is not for me due to its changes being more geared to the touch screen and tablet pc so I have cancelled the pre-order I had placed. I will, like the others, stick to the stable WIN7. To back that up I have just ordered another WIN7 Home Premium.
I have the idea that this new WIN8 will go the same way as did that lousy Vista.....Millenium, 2003 and 2000! All were rubbish!
Your choice, but have a good tryout first before you part with the readies............
Its on sale now WIN8 Pro for the paltry sum of £25.99 as a download or £49.99 for the retail pack DVD.
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2012, 16:35:15
Yes, I have tried it too and was not impressed, I was involved in the pre-test release testing phase too, and like many others who have have decided that it is not for me due to its changes being more geared to the touch screen and tablet pc so I have cancelled the pre-order I had placed. I will, like the others, stick to the stable WIN7. To back that up I have just ordered another WIN7 Home Premium.
I have the idea that this new WIN8 will go the same way as did that lousy Vista.....Millenium, 2003 and 2000! All were rubbish!
Your choice, but have a good tryout first before you part with the readies............
Its on sale now WIN8 Pro for the paltry sum of £25.99 as a download or £49.99 for the retail pack DVD.
Millenium, yes, no disagreements there.  But, pray, tell me what was wrong with Windows 2000? Or Windows Server 2003 (basically the Server version of XP)? Or Vista?  All were very good systems in their day.

Windows 2000 added Active Directory and true plug and play over NT4. Windows Server 2003 offered very little extra (in the same way XP offered little over W2K), but was hardly a "rubbish" OS. Vista (and its Server, Windows Server 2008) offered lots in the way of security, both at the kernel level and at the user level, in addition to a more robust device/driver model.
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: dbug on 28 October 2012, 16:37:21
Not too impressed with beta.

Historically every other "home" release of Windows is a "good" one offering positive benefits and stability over the the previous release . . .

Windows 3
Windows 3.1  -  good
Windows 95
Windows 95OSR2   - good
Windows 98
Windows 98SE   - good
Windows ME
Windows XP   - good
Windows Vista
Windows 7   - good
Windows 8

Don't see a happy future for Win8  :(
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Mv8.com on 28 October 2012, 16:43:32
Windows 8 ...looks and sounds like something from toys r us :-\
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2012, 16:45:12
Not too impressed with beta.

Historically every other "home" release of Windows is a "good" one offering positive benefits and stability over the the previous release . . .

Windows 3
Windows 3.1  -  good
Windows 95
Windows 95OSR2   - good
Windows 98
Windows 98SE   - good
Windows ME
Windows XP   - good
Windows Vista
Windows 7   - good
Windows 8

Don't see a happy future for Win8  :(
I kind of agree with that, except I though Win3(.0) was pretty good, compared to its predecessor.  I would also say the original 95 was OK, compared to its predecessor, but OSR2 (and 2.5), 98 and 98SE were all pretty poor, dull upgrades. Me was just a stepping stone to wean 9x users off their old kack hardware and software, ready for the push to the NT kernel, XP (NT5.1).

Win8's future will be the uptake of MS based tablets. Thats where the consumer is now, shitty, pointless tablets.  Windows 8 is unique in that it is a combined desktop/tablet OS, albeit not particularly cleverly done from a x86/64 v ARM contradiction.
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: 78bex on 28 October 2012, 16:48:20
I only tend to upgrade as Microsoft drops the upgrades for a particular system
Perhaps I`m running out of time now for XP?

I think I mean updates!
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: dbug on 28 October 2012, 16:53:04
I only tend to upgrade as Microsoft drops the upgrades for a particular system
Perhaps I`m running out of time now for XP?

Guess I've run out of time then for Win3.1 and 98SE (both still running on one of my multi-boot systems as two customers using bespoke software on these platforms and refuse to update), together with XP Pro, Vista, Win7 Ult and Win8 beta, as well as Ubuntu Linux  ::)
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: 78bex on 28 October 2012, 17:12:36
I only tend to upgrade as Microsoft drops the upgrades for a particular system
Perhaps I`m running out of time now for XP?

Guess I've run out of time then for Win3.1 and 98SE (both still running on one of my multi-boot systems as two customers using bespoke software on these platforms and refuse to update), together with XP Pro, Vista, Win7 Ult and Win8 beta, as well as Ubuntu Linux  ::)

I seem to remember 2006, that`s the year I bought my current system, running XP media center. Crystal disk info tells me 5149 power on counts / 6904 hours. Glad I never bothered with the extended Dell waranty :y
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: llewellyn237 on 28 October 2012, 17:26:00
No plans to buy it, I'll wait until the PCs/Laptops need replacing, and they will probably come with Win8.

Exactly my intensions.
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2012, 19:16:35
Not with anybody's bargepole. I guess Windows 9 might have some hope. At least they'll have admitted they can only do desktop machines anyway, binned the toy touch screen interface and gone back to something more suited to a monitor, keyboard and mouse.  ;D

It seems daft UIs are in vogue these days. Same reason I'll never install another Ubuntu.
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: tunnie on 28 October 2012, 19:19:26
Tempted to get a new media centre machine & put Windows 8 on it. FatherT has MSDN subscription so can get free copy and valid license.

Trouble is I only want something that plays 1080p so looking at budget range, so doubt it would have power for 8  :-\
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: ozzycat on 28 October 2012, 20:01:11
been offerd it for 20 quid
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: dbug on 28 October 2012, 20:44:16
been offerd it for 20 quid

If that's Windows 8 - don't waste your money mate ;)
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2012, 22:25:43
Tempted to get a new media centre machine & put Windows 8 on it. FatherT has MSDN subscription so can get free copy and valid license.

Trouble is I only want something that plays 1080p so looking at budget range, so doubt it would have power for 8  :-\
MSDN is NOT a valid ljcence
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: tunnie on 28 October 2012, 23:59:41
Tempted to get a new media centre machine & put Windows 8 on it. FatherT has MSDN subscription so can get free copy and valid license.

Trouble is I only want something that plays 1080p so looking at budget range, so doubt it would have power for 8  :-\
MSDN is NOT a valid ljcence

Really? Get a bunch of valid codes  :-\
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: TheBoy on 29 October 2012, 13:27:44
Tempted to get a new media centre machine & put Windows 8 on it. FatherT has MSDN subscription so can get free copy and valid license.

Trouble is I only want something that plays 1080p so looking at budget range, so doubt it would have power for 8  :-\
MSDN is NOT a valid ljcence

Really? Get a bunch of valid codes  :-\
Yup, but they are not for use in production or personal environments.  If they were, Sky would not pay hundreds of thousands every year in licencing to MS, they'd get a £2k MSDN subscription ;)
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 October 2012, 18:01:28
Tempted to get a new media centre machine & put Windows 8 on it. FatherT has MSDN subscription so can get free copy and valid license.

Trouble is I only want something that plays 1080p so looking at budget range, so doubt it would have power for 8  :-\
MSDN is NOT a valid ljcence

Really? Get a bunch of valid codes  :-\
Yup, but they are not for use in production or personal environments.  If they were, Sky would not pay hundreds of thousands every year in licencing to MS, they'd get a £2k MSDN subscription ;)

Gone are the days when i worked in an IT dept. and MSDN packs used to find their way home   ;D :(
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: llewellyn237 on 29 October 2012, 18:07:15
Gone are the days of getting your OS on disc with a new PC/laptop.

Now you're prompted to back-up the system asap after purchase  ::)
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 October 2012, 19:25:54
Gone are the days of getting your OS on disc with a new PC/laptop.

Now you're prompted to back-up the system asap after purchase  ::)

Yes, and if that fails you can be sure that the numbers will have worn off the poxy license label by the time it needs a re-install. ;)

Call me cynical, but I wonder if the labels are deliberately that poor. :-X
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: Martian on 29 October 2012, 19:49:36
Gone are the days of getting your OS on disc with a new PC/laptop.

Now you're prompted to back-up the system asap after purchase  ::)

Yes, and if that fails you can be sure that the numbers will have worn off the poxy license label by the time it needs a re-install. ;)

Call me cynical, but I wonder if the labels are deliberately that poor. :-X
The licence key is already preinstalled and the OS already preactivated when you make the recovery image.
Title: Re: Windows 8
Post by: llewellyn237 on 29 October 2012, 20:41:48
Gone are the days of getting your OS on disc with a new PC/laptop.

Now you're prompted to back-up the system asap after purchase  ::)

Yes, and if that fails you can be sure that the numbers will have worn off the poxy license label by the time it needs a re-install. ;)

Call me cynical, but I wonder if the labels are deliberately that poor. :-X
Took 12 blank DVDs to do mine when Windows 7 launched and got a Samsung R530. Thought it would be a few discs and about an hour. How naive I felt.