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Title: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 11 November 2012, 18:39:06
One of the roller for the cambelt completely disintergrates while driving the car at around 20 miles per hour. I tried starting the car and it would not start so had the car towed. Question is, is it possible in such a scenario not to damage the engine???  The belt did not snapped just came loose. If damage occured what am i looking to replace. I am dreading the thought of having to get another engine from UK as i live donkey miles away. Please help!
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: symes on 11 November 2012, 18:42:17
would think you bent valves there mate when you turned engine over trying to start it :'(
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 11 November 2012, 18:49:40
would think you bent valves there mate when you turned engine over trying to start it :'(

Please bear with me but are valve a straight replacement? I mean no skimming or anything of that sort. Luckily for me labour is super cheap here.
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Andy B on 11 November 2012, 18:51:02
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Please bear with me but are valve a straight replacement? I mean no skimming or anything of that sort. Luckily for me labour is super cheap here.

If you are very lucky. You'd need to check the valve guide too for damage.  :-\
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: symes on 11 November 2012, 18:52:00
+1 :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 15 November 2012, 05:18:28
I was extremely lucky as my engine was not damaged at all. I fitted a new gates belt and rollers and all seems well, however i have noticed the car rev counter is not exceeding about 4500 rpm. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: RobG on 15 November 2012, 06:22:41
I was extremely lucky as my engine was not damaged at all. I fitted a new gates belt and rollers and all seems well, however i have noticed the car rev counter is not exceeding about 4500 rpm. Any ideas?
Camshaft sensor
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Andy H on 15 November 2012, 21:36:53
I was extremely lucky as my engine was not damaged at all. I fitted a new gates belt and rollers and all seems well, however i have noticed the car rev counter is not exceeding about 4500 rpm. Any ideas?
Camshaft sensor
Probably. But could be any one of those codes that causes the ECU to apply a 4500rpm rev limit.

You need to get an OBD2 code reader on it to read the codes and find the cause.
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Lazydocker on 15 November 2012, 21:41:12
TBH, I'm amazed that it runs at all if the cambelt idler disintegrated :-\ :-\

Unless it's an 8 Valve engine :-\ :-\ ???
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Webby the Bear on 15 November 2012, 21:50:58
does it sound ok???
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 16 November 2012, 04:15:22
Car runs very rough and incase you turn on the AC the car goes off. I did spot alot of oil in the plugs well and i suspect that is why it is running rough.. I had a spare brand new camshaft sensor and had it fitted and now once the car warms up the the rev counter is going all the way up!! Engine has full power as always but does cut out every now and then. But i have a persistent message that keeps coming up:

P1405  Present
( 8 )  Feedbacksensor Exhaust Gas Recirculation

What is it?
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: henryd on 17 November 2012, 15:53:42
Car runs very rough and incase you turn on the AC the car goes off. I did spot alot of oil in the plugs well and i suspect that is why it is running rough.. I had a spare brand new camshaft sensor and had it fitted and now once the car warms up the the rev counter is going all the way up!! Engine has full power as always but does cut out every now and then. But i have a persistent message that keeps coming up:

P1405  Present
( 8 )  Feedbacksensor Exhaust Gas Recirculation

What is it?

I checked autodata and that code is an EGR fault,maybe worth removing the EGR valve and giving it a clean :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 November 2012, 16:04:29
Car runs very rough and incase you turn on the AC the car goes off. I did spot alot of oil in the plugs well and i suspect that is why it is running rough.. I had a spare brand new camshaft sensor and had it fitted and now once the car warms up the the rev counter is going all the way up!! Engine has full power as always but does cut out every now and then. But i have a persistent message that keeps coming up:

P1405  Present
( 8 )  Feedbacksensor Exhaust Gas Recirculation

What is it?


Usually oil in the plug wells means failed cam cover gaskets.  However with your initial problem, that usually causes top end engine damage, I would fear a damaged head and valves.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 17:32:34
Car runs very rough and incase you turn on the AC the car goes off. I did spot alot of oil in the plugs well and i suspect that is why it is running rough.. I had a spare brand new camshaft sensor and had it fitted and now once the car warms up the the rev counter is going all the way up!! Engine has full power as always but does cut out every now and then. But i have a persistent message that keeps coming up:

P1405  Present
( 8 )  Feedbacksensor Exhaust Gas Recirculation

What is it?
Thanks mate was thinking of the same but as a precaution i want to buy another just in case...

I checked autodata and that code is an EGR fault,maybe worth removing the EGR valve and giving it a clean :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 17:35:45
Car runs very rough and incase you turn on the AC the car goes off. I did spot alot of oil in the plugs well and i suspect that is why it is running rough.. I had a spare brand new camshaft sensor and had it fitted and now once the car warms up the the rev counter is going all the way up!! Engine has full power as always but does cut out every now and then. But i have a persistent message that keeps coming up:

P1405  Present
( 8 )  Feedbacksensor Exhaust Gas Recirculation

What is it?


Usually oil in the plug wells means failed cam cover gaskets.  However with your initial problem, that usually causes top end engine damage, I would fear a damaged head and valves.  :'( :'(

Actually the cam cover gaskets have failed and we replaced them as well. I am finding it hard to believe but the engine was not damaged at all..the car runs very smooth and the rev counter goes all the way to max...I replaced the camshaft sensor and all is running so well now
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 17:39:27
I am very happy to report that the miggy is back in top shape after i replaced the coil  pack ..that is what was causing the rough running. Thanks everyone here for your contribution and i am so pleased to have the Miggy back after a week of pulling my hair out... and i must have been so lucky not to have damaged the engine and next time i will replace the cambelt and roller either at 40k miles or 4 years. I was due to replaced the cambelt last december and i decided to push my luck!!!
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 17:40:46
does it sound ok???

Yes...very ok now...
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: PhilRich on 17 November 2012, 17:47:08
I am really pleased to hear you 'got away with it' Kumamoto  :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: symes on 17 November 2012, 18:20:42
I am really pleased to hear you 'got away with it' Kumamoto  :y
+1 :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: henryd on 17 November 2012, 18:47:50
I am very happy to report that the miggy is back in top shape after i replaced the coil  pack ..that is what was causing the rough running. Thanks everyone here for your contribution and i am so pleased to have the Miggy back after a week of pulling my hair out... and i must have been so lucky not to have damaged the engine and next time i will replace the cambelt and roller either at 40k miles or 4 years. I was due to replaced the cambelt last december and i decided to push my luck!!!

please say you replaced the water pump at the same time ???(crucial on the four cylinder engines)
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 18:50:35
I am very happy to report that the miggy is back in top shape after i replaced the coil  pack ..that is what was causing the rough running. Thanks everyone here for your contribution and i am so pleased to have the Miggy back after a week of pulling my hair out... and i must have been so lucky not to have damaged the engine and next time i will replace the cambelt and roller either at 40k miles or 4 years. I was due to replaced the cambelt last december and i decided to push my luck!!!

please say you replaced the water pump at the same time ???(crucial on the four cylinder engines)

I had replaced the water pump exactly 12 months ago and to be honest i have to order one from UK....
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 18:51:06
I am really pleased to hear you 'got away with it' Kumamoto  :y
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 17 November 2012, 18:51:25
I am really pleased to hear you 'got away with it' Kumamoto  :y
+1 :y
Cheers :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: henryd on 17 November 2012, 18:54:59
I am very happy to report that the miggy is back in top shape after i replaced the coil  pack ..that is what was causing the rough running. Thanks everyone here for your contribution and i am so pleased to have the Miggy back after a week of pulling my hair out... and i must have been so lucky not to have damaged the engine and next time i will replace the cambelt and roller either at 40k miles or 4 years. I was due to replaced the cambelt last december and i decided to push my luck!!!

please say you replaced the water pump at the same time ???(crucial on the four cylinder engines)

I had replaced the water pump exactly 12 months ago and to be honest i have to order one from UK....

You may well be ok,the pumps don't seem to take kindly to the extra tension applied when a new belt is fitted :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Roller Came off while driving. Should i worry??
Post by: Kumamoto on 23 November 2012, 03:14:46
I am very happy to report that the miggy is back in top shape after i replaced the coil  pack ..that is what was causing the rough running. Thanks everyone here for your contribution and i am so pleased to have the Miggy back after a week of pulling my hair out... and i must have been so lucky not to have damaged the engine and next time i will replace the cambelt and roller either at 40k miles or 4 years. I was due to replaced the cambelt last december and i decided to push my luck!!!

please say you replaced the water pump at the same time ???(crucial on the four cylinder engines)

I had replaced the water pump exactly 12 months ago and to be honest i have to order one from UK....

You may well be ok,the pumps don't seem to take kindly to the extra tension applied when a new belt is fitted :y

Water pump now replaced....