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Has won his appeal against extradition to Jordan to face terrorism charges, because Theresa May did not prove that evidence against him would not been gained by torture. Not only that but the government can't appeal this decision and he must be given bail with a 14 hour curtfew.
WTF >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
This country is a cess pit for terroists, despots, perpertators of genocide and any other scum bag that claims his humans rights are paramount.
It is utter stupidity >:( >:( >:(
The lawyers acting for these scum, and the judges making these crass decisions need to be taken out and shot in front of their families and the nation. :y :y
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>:( >:( >:( >:( i dont know what to say im just disgusted!!!
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>:( >:( >:( >:( i dont know what to say im just disgusted!!!
+1 :(
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how disgusting >:(
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Call in Jack Bauer. :y
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Has won his appeal against extradition to Jordan to face terrorism charges, because Theresa May did not prove that evidence against him would not been gained by torture. Not only that but the government can't appeal this decision and he must be given bail with a 14 hour curtfew.
WTF >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
This country is a cess pit for terroists, despots, perpertators of genocide and any other scum bag that claims his humans rights are paramount.
It is utter stupidity >:( >:( >:(
The lawyers acting for these scum, and the judges making these crass decisions need to be taken out and shot in front of their families and the nation. :y :y
No no no no no....thats not the way to carry on....I thought you would have known better. >:(
The families should be shot with them, after its genetic :y
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
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A few years ago in a sunday supplement there was an article about Islamic religion etc, I remember showing it to a colleague who had spent a lot of his working life in Muslim countries, he read the article and said" They will eventually fly the flag of Islam in Downing Street" the way things are going I think he will be right.
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I'm all for supporting law and order,half the time the police etc.must be thinking what have we got to do in order to uphold the law,as it seems that the legal system is still biased in favour of the wrong-doer.In this case it's a known fact that this man is a security risk,so I'd be tempted to send a few officers round his house to escort him to the airport and chuck him on the first plane to Jordan,and then let the court of human rights sort it out.
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
+1 - welcome back lizzie
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Surely we are not talking about two extremes, Lizzie. This is not an "either, or" situation. He is simply persona non grata as a result of his hate-filled speeches. He would happily put an end to the human rights of anyone who didn't share his jihadist views. We should have the inalienable right, as a people, to deport those who call for our destruction..."human rights" or not.
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I'd just shoot the freaker, end of :y
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Although most of us find it utterly incomprehensible that a man like Abu Quatada is yet again given leave to stay in the UK and furthermore must be released on bail, it's not really the judges fault, as they just follow the letter of the law! That's their job! ::) Although their interpretation of the law frequently appears to be questionable!! >:(
The fault yet again lies with our politicians, who despite obvious flaws in legislation such as the Human Rights Act have failed to make amendments to make the law crystal clear!! >:(
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Although most of us find it utterly incomprehensible that a man like Abu Quatada is yet again given leave to stay in the UK and furthermore must be released on bail, it's not really the judges fault, as they just follow the letter of the law! That's their job! ::) Although their interpretation of the law frequently appears to be questionable!! >:(
The fault yet again lies with our politicians, who despite obvious flaws in legislation such as the Human Rights Act have failed to make amendments to make the law crystal clear!! >:(
At last .. someone talking sense !!! :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Although most of us find it utterly incomprehensible that a man like Abu Quatada is yet again given leave to stay in the UK and furthermore must be released on bail, it's not really the judges fault, as they just follow the letter of the law! That's their job! ::) Although their interpretation of the law frequently appears to be questionable!! >:(
The fault yet again lies with our politicians, who despite obvious flaws in legislation such as the Human Rights Act have failed to make amendments to make the law crystal clear!! >:(
OKeh, shoot them first ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Surely we are not talking about two extremes, Lizzie. This is not an "either, or" situation. He is simply persona non grata as a result of his hate-filled speeches. He would happily put an end to the human rights of anyone who didn't share his jihadist views. We should have the inalienable right, as a people, to deport those who call for our destruction..."human rights" or not.
I agree, but sometimes we can all get carried away with "ideas" on ways of eliminating/ exterminating things/people we do not like or agree with.
Unfortunately, at times, our democratic ideals do get in the way as in this ridiculous situation. But never forget if we only want our version of free speech it leads to dangerous future situations. Never forget Hitler dismantled German democracy from 1933 to give him the powers to rid the Nazis of all people who voiced a democratic opposing point of view, especially when dealing with "alien" religions.
I find the character in question a threatening, evil force, but he has not yet faced trial and been found guilty of an crime (?). Hitler would love this situation and just shoot him and millions of others without trial. So what I was stating is that we should never let our democratic ideals be devalued by our actions. Too much is at stake.
Never forget, to many in the East this man, will be a martyr when the West take him out.
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Expect much more of this as Al Qaeda has a new policy, where they have largely lost the military war, much in part to US drones, decapitation program, so their command structure has been largely destroyed (Note: Not EU human rights, and Labour luvies approved method, but it works), so their new policy is "Death by a thousand cuts" which is basically a civil disobedience program by their supporters to weaken Western societies and economies as much as possible.
It includes:
Not working and claiming benefits.
Having large families too boost the number of believers
Potential deportees going through as many appeals processes as possible to waste tax money.
Low level terrorist attacks, individual the murder of non-believers.
Disruption of normal life, so expect low level attacks on food, water supplies etc in the future.
But don't worry we have a effective weapon to counter all of this is called "The human rights act". I glad I shall soon be living in a country where they don't allow mass migration and there is no human rights act.
Unless things change for the better, western society will be lost in Western Europe over the next 60 years and I think you all know what it is going to be replaced by. It will certainly change Europe's landscape, when all pubs, bars, music, radios and TVs are banned. Women will be wearing very different clothing and won't go to school but they will get free health service genital mutilation. There will be no same sex relationships. Our diets will certainly change where there will be no pork or eating during the day at certain times of the year. All churches will be destroyed etc etc. The first to complain will of course be the Labour luvies, that caused the problem, but they will soon be silenced by the new order.
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You are fairly optimistic then Rods2 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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To be honest Rods I doubt there's much in the way of human rights at all in Ukraine, so mind how you go!! ;D ;D ;D
You'd think though that the government would be able to deport him back to his own country just for being an undesirable alien!! He was born in Bethlehem so pack him off there!! or is that too simple? ??? :-\
I'm talking about Qatada now not Rods!! :) I'm sure Ukraine will welcome Rods with open arms!! :) Unless they've seen his posts on here then they'll ban him as a subversive!! :P
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Can we really afford the £5 million pa protection bill,there's really no need for it is there.Everyone loves him in this country,I'am sure no one wish'es him ill or worst.
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It is fairly obvious what should happen to him, maybe (fingers crossed) it will, and no we can't afford the cost of keeping him here .
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Why should we have to look after him, >:( let him take a begging bowl round to his "friends", already cost us many millions of pounds keeping in him unaccustomed luxury...scroat
Just bundle him in a plane and drop him off in Jordan.and he can shake hands with the other one...ooh no he can`t can he. :P
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It is really quite simple if someone is in your house who you don't want, you chuck them out. So just boot the offensive shitebag out of a plane as it flies over Jordan :y :y :y
As for the bloody liberals that think he deserves justice they are perfectly free to acompany him >:(
Oh and by the way Hitler was too far to the left ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Nazis aren't right wing, they're left wing. There seems to be a mass public misunderstanding of the term 'right wing', happily perpetrated by lefties who like the fact that the term is ignorantly associated with extremism. Right wing is only one side of the political spectrum (the right i.e. the correct side), you can have extremes on both sides. For example these so called anti fascists ARE the very thing they claim to protest against. They don't allow freedom of thought, expression, association, or speech, and they seek to vilify anyone who dares think differently.
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In any case, if someone is a Nazi that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It only means they are Nationalist and Socialist, the SNP for example. The term Nazi is a general one and denotes political ideology and is completely seperate from genocide and other acts associated with Hitlers regime during the war.
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It is really quite simple if someone is in your house who you don't want, you chuck them out. So just boot the offensive shitebag out of a plane as it flies over Jordan :y :y :y
As for the bloody liberals that think he deserves justice they are perfectly free to acompany him >:(
Oh and by the way Hitler was too far to the left ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D
Wrong way round, in the UK, we are expected to leave the house, they can stay, "it's their 'uman rights, ain't it". >:( >:( >:(
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Just drag him into a Gay bar in London (plenty to choose from) and then shout "THIS BLOKE WANTS ALL OF YOU LOT STONED TO DEATH". Job jobbed. :y ;D
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He could be innocent, like Jimmy Savile.
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Cremate them together then. :y
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You are fairly optimistic then Rods2 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just realistic, look at the immigration levels, here and in much of Western Europe and average family sizes and do the maths. The people who will be motivated, like in all such situations, will be people with an axe to grind, which will be the radicals. :o :o :o
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Nazis aren't right wing, they're left wing. There seems to be a mass public misunderstanding of the term 'right wing', happily perpetrated by lefties who like the fact that the term is ignorantly associated with extremism. Right wing is only one side of the political spectrum (the right i.e. the correct side), you can have extremes on both sides. For example these so called anti fascists ARE the very thing they claim to protest against. They don't allow freedom of thought, expression, association, or speech, and they seek to vilify anyone who dares think differently.
Sorry, but the Nazis were a National Socialist Party that sought absolute national interest over the needs of most Germans and all others they managed to conquer. They were certainly not Liberal, nor were in favour of Labour type polices of working for the interests of all working people providing a socialist environment for everyone, if any. No, their "nationalistic" policies were designed to create a greater Germany under full military dictatorial control under Adolf Hitler.
They were extreme right wing, against alien people, religion or politics who / what didn't match the profile of someone from pure German blood. Our Conservatives, although, thank God, not extreme right wingers, do fight to protect the state, the monarchy, the law and the British way of life in our democratic society. The Nazis were well beyond those right wing polices which resulted in mass genocide and absolute military power under Hitler, which eventually imploded as all evil empires will with the leadership turning on each other, and that going down throughout the ranks.
Yes, they were extreme right wing and no way socialists as we recognize on the left of society, as recognized by all political commentators and academics.
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Thanks for that Lizzie. You are, as always, absolutely correct.
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Surely we are not talking about two extremes, Lizzie. This is not an "either, or" situation. He is simply persona non grata as a result of his hate-filled speeches. He would happily put an end to the human rights of anyone who didn't share his jihadist views. We should have the inalienable right, as a people, to deport those who call for our destruction..."human rights" or not.
I agree, but sometimes we can all get carried away with "ideas" on ways of eliminating/ exterminating things/people we do not like or agree with.
Unfortunately, at times, our democratic ideals do get in the way as in this ridiculous situation. But never forget if we only want our version of free speech it leads to dangerous future situations. Never forget Hitler dismantled German democracy from 1933 to give him the powers to rid the Nazis of all people who voiced a democratic opposing point of view, especially when dealing with "alien" religions.
I find the character in question a threatening, evil force, but he has not yet faced trial and been found guilty of an crime (?). Hitler would love this situation and just shoot him and millions of others without trial. So what I was stating is that we should never let our democratic ideals be devalued by our actions. Too much is at stake.
Never forget, to many in the East this man, will be a martyr when the West take him out.
all well and good maybe not shooting in the street as that would be islamic-but all i would like to see is a justice system that protects western ideals,
a couple of facts,
1. in America the most given name to a newborn is muhammed.
2. in America the fastest growing religion is Muslim
3. within the next two generations Germany will be a predominantly islamic society.
Islam is training itself to get into governments and higher level jobs and is slowly working it's way into society under the radar demanding rights to fly their flag so to speak like never before, if you are interested read Militant Islam reaches America by daniel Pipe it will open your eyes alot and then you can decide whether something shouldn't be done.
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In any case, if someone is a Nazi that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It only means they are Nationalist and Socialist, the SNP for example. The term Nazi is a general one and denotes political ideology and is completely separate from genocide and other acts associated with Hitlers regime during the war.
No, you can never separate the action of the Nazis from their political ideals ; i.e. eradicate all Jews, Communists, and everyone protesting for socialist ideals, like unions and general democratic process.
I advise you to read Mein Kampf, the rantings of a lunatic, but a very dangerous one whose philosophy was the core and very reason for the Nazis.
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Surely we are not talking about two extremes, Lizzie. This is not an "either, or" situation. He is simply persona non grata as a result of his hate-filled speeches. He would happily put an end to the human rights of anyone who didn't share his jihadist views. We should have the inalienable right, as a people, to deport those who call for our destruction..."human rights" or not.
I agree, but sometimes we can all get carried away with "ideas" on ways of eliminating/ exterminating things/people we do not like or agree with.
Unfortunately, at times, our democratic ideals do get in the way as in this ridiculous situation. But never forget if we only want our version of free speech it leads to dangerous future situations. Never forget Hitler dismantled German democracy from 1933 to give him the powers to rid the Nazis of all people who voiced a democratic opposing point of view, especially when dealing with "alien" religions.
I find the character in question a threatening, evil force, but he has not yet faced trial and been found guilty of an crime (?). Hitler would love this situation and just shoot him and millions of others without trial. So what I was stating is that we should never let our democratic ideals be devalued by our actions. Too much is at stake.
Never forget, to many in the East this man, will be a martyr when the West take him out.
all well and good maybe not shooting in the street as that would be islamic-but all i would like to see is a justice system that protects western ideals,
a couple of facts,
1. in America the most given name to a newborn is muhammed.
2. in America the fastest growing religion is Muslim
3. within the next two generations Germany will be a predominantly islamic society.
Islam is training itself to get into governments and higher level jobs and is slowly working it's way into society under the radar demanding rights to fly their flag so to speak like never before, if you are interested read Militant Islam reaches America by daniel Pipe it will open your eyes alot and then you can decide whether something shouldn't be done.
Oh no! Lizzie might have to wear a burkha.
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And Das Kapital was also the dangerous ramblings of another lunatic,but unfortunately half the people running this country seem to think its the Holy Bible.
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And Das Kapital was also the dangerous ramblings of another lunatic,but unfortunately half the people running this country seem to think its the Holy Bible.
Luckily they've overlooked 'The Little Red Book'..... :-\
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so far. ;D
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And Das Kapital was also the dangerous ramblings of another lunatic,but unfortunately half the people running this country seem to think its the Holy Bible.
Luckily they've overlooked 'The Little Red Book'..... :-\
In 20 years, we'll all be reading that one.
Well, I wont because, as Albs will tell you, I'll be dead...........fickin roll on...
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And Das Kapital was also the dangerous ramblings of another lunatic,but unfortunately half the people running this country seem to think its the Holy Bible.
Luckily they've overlooked 'The Little Red Book'..... :-\
In 20 years, we'll all be reading that one.
Well, I wont because, as Albs will tell you, I'll be dead...........fickin roll on...
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:y :P
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And Das Kapital was also the dangerous ramblings of another lunatic,but unfortunately half the people running this country seem to think its the Holy Bible.
Luckily they've overlooked 'The Little Red Book'..... :-\
In 20 years, we'll all be reading that one. :-\
Well, I wont because, as Albs will tell you, I'll be dead...........fickin roll on...
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:y :P
If the doctor gives me six months to live, I might kill someone. But who.......... :-\
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At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.
I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance. Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.
Do not go there please!!
Nazis aren't right wing, they're left wing. There seems to be a mass public misunderstanding of the term 'right wing', happily perpetrated by lefties who like the fact that the term is ignorantly associated with extremism. Right wing is only one side of the political spectrum (the right i.e. the correct side), you can have extremes on both sides. For example these so called anti fascists ARE the very thing they claim to protest against. They don't allow freedom of thought, expression, association, or speech, and they seek to vilify anyone who dares think differently.
Sorry, but the Nazis were a National Socialist Party that sought absolute national interest over the needs of most Germans and all others they managed to conquer. They were certainly not Liberal, nor were in favour of Labour type polices of working for the interests of all working people providing a socialist environment for everyone, if any. No, their "nationalistic" policies were designed to create a greater Germany under full military dictatorial control under Adolf Hitler.
They were extreme right wing, against alien people, religion or politics who / what didn't match the profile of someone from pure German blood. Our Conservatives, although, thank God, not extreme right wingers, do fight to protect the state, the monarchy, the law and the British way of life in our democratic society. The Nazis were well beyond those right wing polices which resulted in mass genocide and absolute military power under Hitler, which eventually imploded as all evil empires will with the leadership turning on each other, and that going down throughout the ranks.
Yes, they were extreme right wing and no way socialists as we recognize on the left of society, as recognized by all political commentators and academics.
Exactly, but too far to the left ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D
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What is missing from this thread, about of course one vile individual, but has blossomed out (as usual) into a discussion about immigration, is that throughout the history of this nation we have been changed by constant immigration.
Since tribes of ancient people crossed over the Dogger plains in what would become Britain, we have experienced the inflow, and outflow of what would become, or were, "Brits". The Romans came, then the Anglo Saxons, followed by Vikings, with the Normans coming in quick succession. Since then the British nation has been joined by numerous nationalities with the ebb and flow of Empires, with the British Empire 'encouraging eventual mass immigration after years of Brits emigrating / invading so many corners of the World with slavery also a contributor as it is still in the USA. Earlier global 'Events' such as the Roman, then Otterman Empires extending their fingers across the Eastern and Western areas of the globe, with lets not forget, the "Christian" Crusades adding to the movement of the worlds people, that of course affected the British Isles along with everything else.
World Wars have also added to the British mix of people with Britain becoming, proudly, a base for all democratic minded people to fight oppressive evil regimes. This constant mixing will continue throughout the future as it has in the past with especially Islamic religion working with, and changing alongside Christianity. The former is evolving 500 years behind Christianity, with, to us as Christians, old crude ideals. Christianity went through that process from our pagan background and has had many black moments in the distant past. All will eventually balance out in God's world and we all will live in an advanced society where all creeds, cultures, and colours of people will work as one.
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Amen.
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You've obviously missed the entire point, and that other socialist is butting in who doesn't know what he's talking about. Perhaps it's time for a lesson in basic politics? I won't go any further as from what you've posted you've proved my point about a mass public misunderstanding of what left and right wing is and isn't.
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It's no good writing war and peace either. Nazis aren't right wing. Being left or right wing denotes ideology not methods.
Ideology is seperate from methods. It seems many people can't comprehend that.
There is no god either.
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You've obviously missed the entire point, and that other socialist is butting in who doesn't know what he's talking about. Perhaps it's time for a lesson in basic politics? I won't go any further as from what you've posted you've proved my point about a mass public misunderstanding of what left and right wing is and isn't.
There is no misunderstanding in academic circles, and all mainstream political authors voice in a far more sophisticated way exactly the points I have expressed.
Sorry Geoffr70, but I respectfully believe that you are the one confused, not the mass of the public, or me. ;)
In answer to your comment "Ideology is seperate from methods" I will again stress that it IS all one and the same. Political ideology always dictates methods, and has always throughout history.
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The time is going to come when we may well have to defend our culture and religion,because if you allow the limp wristers who run the country to protect us,then think on! >:(
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The time is going to come when we may well have to defend our culture and religion,because if you allow the limp wristers who run the country to protect us,then think on! >:(
Do you watch 'Doomsday preppers'? ;D
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
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The time is going to come when we may well have to defend our culture and religion,because if you allow the limp wristers who run the country to protect us,then think on! >:(
Do you watch 'Doomsday preppers'? ;D
Yep , and digging that shelter was a nightmare ::)
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While we're on the subject, socialism needs to be eradicated.
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas gettin coldI'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
Pie and chips I hope. None of this quails eggs rubbish. ;D
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I,ll take him. Send him to me.
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I have,but not sure wether that scenario would play out here,but I can only go on what I hear in conversations amongst friends and relatives,needless to say I would without hesitation do what ever the situation dictated at the time,can't say more than that :-\
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Apparently Cameron's 'Fed up'...... :o ::)
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Why is it that people such as he come here to preach their "ideals" and their version of a justice system,and then fight like the devil to prevent their going back and facing that very justice system that they are so quick to espouse?
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Apparently Cameron's 'Fed up'...... :o ::)
Boo hoo. Poor Dave.
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
No, open yours :D :D
Sorry you feel like you are wasting your time. You obviously do not enjoy debate. No more to be said. ;)
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
No, open yours :D :D
Sorry you feel like you are wasting your time. You obviously do not enjoy debate. No more to be said. ;)
You can't debate with a brick wall. Thankfully for me, I'm free from having a conditioned mind, unlike some it appears.
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas gettin coldI'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
Pie and chips I hope. None of this quails eggs rubbish. ;D
At least you're not a champagne socialist.
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
No, open yours :D :D
Sorry you feel like you are wasting your time. You obviously do not enjoy debate. No more to be said. ;)
Geoffr70.............Don't do it, even when you are right you will be wrong... ::) ::) ::) The Sweeney's first car was a 3.0LGT CONSUL, not a Granada........ :-X :-X :-X
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No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
No, open yours :D :D
Sorry you feel like you are wasting your time. You obviously do not enjoy debate. No more to be said. ;)
Geoffr70.............Don't do it, even when you are right you will be wrong... ::) ::) ::) The Sweeney's first car was a 3.0LGT CONSUL, not a Granada........ :-X :-X :-X
Stop stirring Vamps ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yes i thinks it about time we all played nicely :y
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With guns. :D ;D ;D ;D
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With guns. :D ;D ;D ;D
well to be honest i would tell him to sling his hook back to jordan with his family and i would pay for the ticket but i only want him/family on the plane...only put enough fuel in it to get him over the sea and crash it seeing as that is what his brothers did and he thought it was a cause for the good...see how he likes it :(
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I don't hear our muslim community speaking out against him >:( >:( >:( >:(