Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Elite Pete on 15 November 2012, 18:54:53
-
Has anyone owned one or know of any common problems.
TIA :y
-
Oh there's a good car :y. Check for grumbling turbos, cambelts at 90k.
-
Never owned one, but been in the back of a few! ;D Only Joking.
Nowhere near as fast as their reputation will make you believe.
Much smaller than they look - The interior is positively tiny compared to an Omega.
Turbo's are a weak point (as most Turbo'd engines) so make sure it is silent (you know what I mean).
-
Never owned one, but been in the back of a few! ;D Only Joking.
Nowhere near as fast as their reputation will make you believe.
Much smaller than they look - The interior is positively tiny compared to an Omega.
Turbo's are a weak point (as most Turbo'd engines) so make sure it is silent (you know what I mean).
I've got to disagree on that, they fly :o.
-
Never owned one, but been in the back of a few! ;D Only Joking.
Nowhere near as fast as their reputation will make you believe.
Much smaller than they look - The interior is positively tiny compared to an Omega.
Turbo's are a weak point (as most Turbo'd engines) so make sure it is silent (you know what I mean).
I've got to disagree on that, they fly :o .
yep.. I have driven one, they are fast .. however, the feeling during acceleration from standstill not satisfactory as the tyres loose most of the power struggling grip..
good quality brand new tyres may change a bit though..
-
Never owned one, but been in the back of a few! ;D Only Joking.
Nowhere near as fast as their reputation will make you believe.
Much smaller than they look - The interior is positively tiny compared to an Omega.
Turbo's are a weak point (as most Turbo'd engines) so make sure it is silent (you know what I mean).
I've got to disagree on that, they fly :o .
yep.. I have driven one, they are fast .. however, the feeling during acceleration from standstill not satisfactory as the tyres loose most of the power struggling grip..
good quality brand new tyres may change a bit though..
Mine only ever had Goodyear tyres on, however a front set went within about 7,000 miles ::).
-
My uncle used to swear by them at work :y he ran a traffic division for Sussex fwiw. Stable at speed, rapid, tyres and fuel being their biggest consumables, but perfect for long journeys/shifts as very comfortable :-\ some are 4wd too 8)
-
I didn't say they were slow! The T5 V70 is commonly known as a rocket. It has a reputation which it cannot live upto.
7 Seconds 0-60 is not mind blowing is it?
What were they running, 240BHP? Heavy car. As I said, not slow, but definitely no rocket.
-
Late T6 are 300bhp with 4wd 8) start at £8k retail for 2 year old ex plod :-\
-
I didn't say they were slow! The T5 V70 is commonly known as a rocket. It has a reputation which it cannot live upto.
7 Seconds 0-60 is not mind blowing is it?
What were they running, 240BHP? Heavy car. As I said, not slow, but definitely no rocket.
Depends which one, 1996-2000 were 240, 2000-2004 were 250, 2004-2007/8 were 260. 7 seconds to 60 granted isn't brilliant, however, in gear acceleration, there isn't much that can touch them :y.
-
If it has the same t5 engine and throttle body as the c70, avoid. Or budget £3-400 a year in throttle body's.
Although it might depend what year :-\
-
I didn't say they were slow! The T5 V70 is commonly known as a rocket. It has a reputation which it cannot live upto.
7 Seconds 0-60 is not mind blowing is it?
What were they running, 240BHP? Heavy car. As I said, not slow, but definitely no rocket.
Depends which one, 1996-2000 were 240, 2000-2004 were 250, 2004-2007/8 were 260. 7 seconds to 60 granted isn't brilliant, however, in gear acceleration, there isn't much that can touch them :y.
No Boost = No Power. I'd wager a ST200 or Vectra V6 would piss all over a T5 in a 50-100 race in top gear. Neither of which are particularly torque-y vehicles.
-
Pete, knowing what I know about them, I wouldn't touch an ex-plod one with a barge-pole. The car itself though is awesome, if a little heavy on front tyres & front suspension joints. Not as much room in the cabin as an Omega, drink like a fish, well maintained will hold the road like its on rails. We never got more than about 15-18mpg out of em, but drove em hard. As for my reasons not to have an ex-plod one, 1 careful owner ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
-
Don't discount the D5D v70,as much torque as a t5 but without most of the thirst :y
-
I had a V50 with this engine once. Didn't live up to its rep, drank like a fish and ate tyres .....
-
Biggest issue I found with them is that the chassis is not upto the power delivery with understeer and torque steer being quite prevalent. I have had to replace front suspension and wishbones on two that went 'straight on'
Great engine though.
Interior is not the greatest
-
I had a V50 with this engine once. Didn't live up to its rep, drank like a fish and ate tyres .....
A V50 doesn't have the 2.3 T5 that the V70 does. The V50 T5 has a 221 BHP 2.5 Turbo as fitted to the Focus ST :).
-
Nothing wrong with one careful owner ;D I would be quite picky where it came from though :-\ some forces take a touch more pride in their cars than others :-\
My first Omega came from devon and cornwall. When I tried to trace the service history all they would tell me was that they had owned it :o and they only admitted that much because they were named on the V5 ::)
-
Never owned one, but been in the back of a few! ;D Only Joking.
Nowhere near as fast as their reputation will make you believe.
Much smaller than they look - The interior is positively tiny compared to an Omega.
Turbo's are a weak point (as most Turbo'd engines) so make sure it is silent (you know what I mean).
I've got to disagree on that, they fly :o.
they are not small at all comparable with the omega,as for slow lol used to drive an 850 t5 as an ambulance it was a lot of things but small and slow it was not....pete apart from the above problem check it is not smoking from the dipstick(whilst running) as the could point too a blocked oil breathers,although new pcv (oil breather system) costs about £ 4 trade and not a major job to change you could have a look here
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/ (http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/)
-
I was thinking of something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-VOLVO-V70-SE-2-4-T5-WHITE-ESTATE-FACELIFT-VAT-QUALIFYING-EX-POLICE-/300815074469?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4609f9c4a5
-
I like those , good solid car :)
-
Yes - I have one in the fleet - a V-plate V70 T5
Overall, they're built very strongly and I guess like most things they do have a couple of weak spots - engines mainly. Expect to have to replace a turbo and maybe do some head work, they seem to need this quite regularly. Rear springs, too seem to have a limited life.
On the road, they're slightly faster in a straight line than an Omega 3-litre, but you really must spank them to get to the performance. On anything other than a straight road, you'd be able to leave one behind an Omega without breaking sweat.
Be aware that Police history means that the regular servicing stuff will have been done, but any other work will have been done to a truly atrocious standard.
hope this helps
-
I was thinking of something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-VOLVO-V70-SE-2-4-T5-WHITE-ESTATE-FACELIFT-VAT-QUALIFYING-EX-POLICE-/300815074469?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4609f9c4a5
I can think of better places to buy an ex plod from than that overpriced toss pot :-X
-
I was thinking of something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-VOLVO-V70-SE-2-4-T5-WHITE-ESTATE-FACELIFT-VAT-QUALIFYING-EX-POLICE-/300815074469?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4609f9c4a5
I can think of better places to buy an ex plod from than that overpriced toss pot :-X
Come along now ... get off the fence .. say what you think and don't hold back ..... :D :D :D :D
-
I was thinking of something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-VOLVO-V70-SE-2-4-T5-WHITE-ESTATE-FACELIFT-VAT-QUALIFYING-EX-POLICE-/300815074469?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4609f9c4a5
I can think of better places to buy an ex plod from than that overpriced toss pot :-X
Come along now ... get off the fence .. say what you think and don't hold back ..... :D :D :D :D
Thought I had ::) changes nowt though ;D
-
I was thinking of something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-VOLVO-V70-SE-2-4-T5-WHITE-ESTATE-FACELIFT-VAT-QUALIFYING-EX-POLICE-/300815074469?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4609f9c4a5
That shape is very lovely indeed, and they feel really 'solid'.
-
Those shape fetch 2.5-3.5k at auction, depending on mileage and how many 5series are in the same sale ::)
Try for ideas http://www.woma.co.uk (http://www.woma.co.uk) :y
-
Never owned one, but been in the back of a few! ;D Only Joking.
Nowhere near as fast as their reputation will make you believe.
Much smaller than they look - The interior is positively tiny compared to an Omega.
Turbo's are a weak point (as most Turbo'd engines) so make sure it is silent (you know what I mean).
I've got to disagree on that, they fly :o.
they are not small at all comparable with the omega
Yes. Yes they are. Cant be arsed to look for cu.in stats, but you are very wrong.
-
These are the Only volvo's id consider... But still they are ugly ::) ..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Volvo-S80-SE-2-4-D5-185-Geartronic-Silver-Diesel-/261094455259?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cca7137db
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201245491916738/sort/default/usedcars/fuel-type/petrol/model/s60/make/volvo/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/postcode/ll669aa/keywords/r/radius/1500?logcode=p (this looks kinda good)
Never been keen on estates..
-
Thanks everyone for the info :y :y
-
My dad had an ex police 2.3 t5 for years. A basic interior, and as said is quite small compared to the Omega, although put the seats down and the boot is huge. As said no boost no power. From a standing start they're sluggish unless you ride the clutch lots, which is obviously not good. 2nd gear acceleration is good, but its real trump card is 3rd gear mid range acceleration. Obviously When the plod need fast acceleration they are probably moving anyway, hence the t5, shich as said is slow off the mark. Quite a bit of body roll, heavy clutch pedal, a long gearstick throw. But who cares about that when the engine sounds like a v8 and it scares Porsches for fiesta money!
-
Try to buy one from the auction direct ex-fleet will save you up to a grand,best to try and find a traing car. No horrid holes every were,lots of late ones and most of the Audis now also have dual batteries, the Volvos eat tyres as already said,gearboxs last about 90k,in service 1st cog goes. Lot more economical than omega.
. Obtw anything in white with zenons coming up PDQ behind a porches scares them ;D
-
As an alternative, i've been considering an ex plod 2.8 Turbo Vectra again around 2008 year and they seem much cheaper than the Volvos. Anyone got any info, pitfalls ect?
TIA :y
-
Pretty durable, turbo is the only potential weakness if neglected :-\ king rapid, about a second quicker to 60 than the plod Omega 8) also they have normal uprated springs/shocks rather than the IDS from the VXR,
Estates look smart in white when scrubbed up. Alot cheaper if bought straight from auction, just be choosy about where it has come from. Thames Valley or Bedfordshire would be my first choice :y TVP look after their cars and those from Bedfordshire. As an example, mine had a 100k service, new alternator and battery 3 weeks before I bought it at 98k :y
-
As an alternative, i've been considering an ex plod 2.8 Turbo Vectra again around 2008 year and they seem much cheaper than the Volvos. Anyone got any info, pitfalls ect?
TIA :y
Vectra's are very, very quick in 2.8 Guise, 280 horses is good, and they're very cheap :y. As said though if you buy direct from an auction it'll be much better, as then you haven't got the dealers add on's :y.
-
As an alternative, i've been considering an ex plod 2.8 Turbo Vectra again around 2008 year and they seem much cheaper than the Volvos. Anyone got any info, pitfalls ect?
TIA :y
Vectra's are very, very quick in 2.8 Guise, 280 horses is good, and they're very cheap :y. As said though if you buy direct from an auction it'll be much better, as then you haven't got the dealers add on's :y.
It's knowing which auctions sell the ex police stuff though ::)
-
As an alternative, i've been considering an ex plod 2.8 Turbo Vectra again around 2008 year and they seem much cheaper than the Volvos. Anyone got any info, pitfalls ect?
TIA :y
Vectra's are very, very quick in 2.8 Guise, 280 horses is good, and they're very cheap :y. As said though if you buy direct from an auction it'll be much better, as then you haven't got the dealers add on's :y.
It's knowing which auctions sell the ex police stuff though ::)
WOMA :y.
-
As an alternative, i've been considering an ex plod 2.8 Turbo Vectra again around 2008 year and they seem much cheaper than the Volvos. Anyone got any info, pitfalls ect?
TIA :y
Vectra's are very, very quick in 2.8 Guise, 280 horses is good, and they're very cheap :y. As said though if you buy direct from an auction it'll be much better, as then you haven't got the dealers add on's :y.
It's knowing which auctions sell the ex police stuff though ::)
WOMA :y.
It's a bit far to go on the off chance of saving a few quid :'(
-
As an alternative, i've been considering an ex plod 2.8 Turbo Vectra again around 2008 year and they seem much cheaper than the Volvos. Anyone got any info, pitfalls ect?
TIA :y
Vectra's are very, very quick in 2.8 Guise, 280 horses is good, and they're very cheap :y. As said though if you buy direct from an auction it'll be much better, as then you haven't got the dealers add on's :y.
It's knowing which auctions sell the ex police stuff though ::)
WOMA :y.
It's a bit far to go on the off chance of saving a few quid :'(
Check what they've got there before you leave, train there, if there's a few there, the you've got a good chance of grabbing a bargain :y.
-
5 hours on the train :o Think i'll have a look for somewhere closer ;D
-
Pete, I trekked all the way up to WOMA from Sussex ::)
If it saves you a couple of grand over dealer prices, then surely it's worth the trip :-\
-
Pete, I trekked all the way up to WOMA from Sussex ::)
If it saves you a couple of grand over dealer prices, then surely it's worth the trip :-\
Exactly :y.
-
To put it another way, my first Omega, dealer purchase, 3.5 years old, 130k no history £5495.
Second one, direct from TVP, via WOMA, 4.5 years old, 98k, full history, £1875, and that was about £800 over what it might have been due to a bit of competition ::)
-
avoid the 2.8 turbo vectra's,some real horro stories
http://www.uksaabs.co.uk/UKS/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=105827
-
That Saab link is just scaremongering ::), a bit like saying all Omegas are unreliable because a handful of 2.5s have cylinderhead issues...
Plod ones are serviced every 10k, not the 20k+ that Joe Public use. Also the Vectra C doesn't have the added complication of 4wd :y If an early batch of those engines suffer from substandard chains, they would have either been replaced/repaired properly, or the cars affected withdrawn from service.
Have driven one of these with 150k on it. Only three issues with it... one of the driveshafts knocked a bit, and the dealer, (that so called specialist in Breirley Hill), is a 'rather' ejit, and it was well over priced.
-
i agree, but a quick search on the net shows plenty of issues,as for the guy who owns that just being a "joe public"he has a few other toys which he is not afraid to spend money on e.g a 450 bhp saab 9000 he doesn't scrimp on his cars,have a look at vxronline too a good few problems even with the Insignias stretching chains.
-
i agree, but a quick search on the net shows plenty of issues,as for the guy who owns that just being a "joe public"he has a few other toys which he is not afraid to spend money on e.g a 450 bhp saab 9000 he doesn't scrimp on his cars,have a look at vxronline too a good few problems even with the Insignias stretching chains.
Thing is, people never join forums (generally) unless they have a problem. So often forums can give an inaccurate picture of reliabillty ;) :y
-
Most modern cars that have significant issues seem to be lower mileage and dealer maintained :-\ a higher mileage, well serviced car is a much better proposition. The fact that Plod cars a significantly cheaper is another factor in their favour. :y
-
i understand that ,but it is the frail part of the engine which also costs around 2k to fix,when Vauxhall have had to produce revised timing chains they know there is a problem.
-
I still maintain that buying a Plod one is a far safer bet :y Also don't forget Saab got that engine before VX, so the later VX engines should give notably less trouble. Unreliable plod cars tend to be fairly short lived :y
-
Pete,
I'm only just down the road from WOMA, I've got an account there and have bought plenty of times from there. If there's anything you need help with, just let me know.
BCA do also get a large amount of ex police through. The Met Police exclusively use WOMA, whereas TVP haven't put a car through there for some time, they are currently using BCA.
If considering a Vectra, factor in the £475 road fund licence if after early '06.
The V70 is a good buy. Cambs police and a few others have used marked blue one's, so it is possible to get something other than white. South Wales Police have a good quantity of lower mileage V70's aswell.
-
Ahh there you are Mr Wyatt, been a while since you have posted.
Did enjoy our little trip to Auction :)
You got any work for me yet? :P ;D
-
Ahh there you are Mr Wyatt, been a while since you have posted.
Did enjoy our little trip to Auction :)
You got any work for me yet? :P ;D
I am here your Grace ;D
Inviation only auctions are much better, you don't have to put up with the people you wouldn't buy a newspaper off, let alone a car.
You'll have to join me at such a place some time.
We've had a lot of changes recently...but hopefully, they'll be so much work you'll regret even mentioning it ;D
-
Ahh there you are Mr Wyatt, been a while since you have posted.
Did enjoy our little trip to Auction :)
You got any work for me yet? :P ;D
I am here your Grace ;D
Inviation only auctions are much better, you don't have to put up with the people you wouldn't buy a newspaper off, let alone a car.
You'll have to join me at such a place some time.
We've had a lot of changes recently...but hopefully, they'll be so much work you'll regret even mentioning it ;D
There were a few characters at WOMA, but still very enjoyable experience :y
Private auctions sound like fun, give me a bell when you have your next one, be great to pop along.
I'll be back in Brackley early December, so must do a catch up. Look forward to hearing how business is going for you :y