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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Johnny English on 19 November 2012, 21:09:05
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...who fitted my summer tyres and fixed the wheel bolts much stronger than allowed so now I can't change them for winter ones... >:( >:( >:( Aarrrrghhh.... >:( I don't want to kill off my bit by torque wrench, of which max is 210Nm and clicked off when trying to untighten the bolts. >:( I'm sure it is a method of holding consumers but hey you surely lost me forever...f*ckin d*ck... >:( Even don't mention what would've happend if I'd got a puncture. Ouhhh...okay I'm much better now thx for reading guys :y :)
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Breaker bar and big lump hammer usually "shocks" 'em loose mate. Agreed tightened by a dickhead. I always make sure wheel nuts are properly torqued by tyre fitters :y
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Had this problem when i got this omega , a huge breaker bar and pole with a few portly people on the end got them to crack :o
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I have had similar problems in the past, a real pain..... :( :(
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WIM is the only place I've seen wheels torqued correctly!
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had this happen years ago on Mk2 Cav. Broke wheel brace, socket t-bar and ratchet after it got two off. stuck on side of road so wouldnt normaly have used the ratchet. got the AA out in the end. he had four foot long torque wrench that clicked as soon as he tried to remove the bolts. he swore and said they were at over 250lb as he hadnt reset the wrench after his last job of lose hub nut.I took the car back to the tyre centre and got then to take the wheels off and refit them with a torque wrench correctly. while I watched. Got reimbursment from them for the broken tools and my time.
Keith B
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For this, and generally taking my wheels off, I have a 2+metre socket bar on which I have a wheel nut socket on the end. I have yet to find any bolt I can't loosen with that. ;)
I advise all to carry one, and not just women :D
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had this happen years ago on Mk2 Cav. Broke wheel brace, socket t-bar and ratchet after it got two off. stuck on side of road so wouldnt normaly have used the ratchet. got the AA out in the end. he had four foot long torque wrench that clicked as soon as he tried to remove the bolts. he swore and said they were at over 250lb as he hadnt reset the wrench after his last job of lose hub nut.I took the car back to the tyre centre and got then to take the wheels off and refit them with a torque wrench correctly. while I watched. Got reimbursment from them for the broken tools and my time.Keith B
Well done Keith ! :y I also have two broken tools an extension bar and a socket >:( and still not sure whether if alloys and screws are intact... :-\
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For this, and generally taking my wheels off, I have a 2+metre socket bar on which I have a wheel nut socket on the end. I have yet to find any bolt I can't loosen with that. ;)
I advise all to carry one, and not just women :D
You're mighty strong for a mere girlie, Lizzie. ;) :-* :-*
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For this, and generally taking my wheels off, I have a 2+metre socket bar on which I have a wheel nut socket on the end. I have yet to find any bolt I can't loosen with that. ;)
I advise all to carry one, and not just women :D
You're mighty strong for a mere girlie, Lizzie. ;) :-* :-*
I am with my long socket pole Opti and all my weight pushing down on it! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) Other than that I am weak, but when you have no nice hunky man around you I have to improvise and use brain rather than brawn! :D :D :D :D ;)
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The weight of an average sized bloke on the end of a metre bar produces about 600nm so I've been told.... :-\
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Me being a seven stone weakling has no chance then!
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Me being a seven stone weakling has no chance then!
With the correct size lever .. anything is possible ... :)
As a certain gentleman once said ..
"““Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.””"
(for those who don't know ..... Archimedes 280-211 BC)
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Me being a seven stone weakling has no chance then!
As Entwood quite rightly points out, size matters! You just need a longer pole! ;)
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You need a Torque multiplier, it looks like a torque wrench but uses planetary gears etc. with hardened sockets.
Comes in various forms, Ring around local garages, that`s what I did for one of my astra`s omce. The bloke charged me a tenner to loosen of the rear sets both sides. took him all of 10 minutes.
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The weight of an average sized bloke on the end of a metre bar produces about 600nm so I've been told.... :-\
accepting gravity factor as 10 and distance as 1 meter you get 60 kg per avg person.. thats nearly half of an avg OOFer ;D
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The weight of an average sized bloke on the end of a metre bar produces about 600nm so I've been told.... :-\
By my maths, assuming the bar is dead horizontal at the time, and the 'average sized bloke' has his centre of gravity exactly one metre from the centre of the nut/bolt being undone, 600Nm would correspond to a 9 stone 9lb person. If that's average I'm fatter than I thought!
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The weight of an average sized bloke on the end of a metre bar produces about 600nm so I've been told.... :-\
By my maths, assuming the bar is dead horizontal at the time, and the 'average sized bloke' has his centre of gravity exactly one metre from the centre of the nut/bolt being undone, 600Nm would correspond to a 9 stone 9lb person. If that's average I'm fatter than I thought!
;D I was that weight at the age of 26 ;D
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I know an old vx mechanic that still insists on putting all his weight onto the socket bar to tighten up the wheel nuts , and he's not exactly slim ::)
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89 kg .....according to the doctor. ;)
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its so simple[if you fit and healthy] you get a new tyre fitted then when you collect it you check the nuts with the wheel brace provided if you cant undo them with it they are too tight!
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its so simple[if you fit and healthy] you get a new tyre fitted then when you collect it you check the nuts with the wheel brace provided if you cant undo them with it they are too tight!
Unless you are a weak woman like me and must use a long handled extension bar! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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The weight of an average sized bloke on the end of a metre bar produces about 600nm so I've been told.... :-\
The infield method to tighten a Dakota prop nut is to hang an average weight person off a 6 foot bar and 'rap the end with a hammer'!
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its so simple[if you fit and healthy] you get a new tyre fitted then when you collect it you check the nuts with the wheel brace provided if you cant undo them with it they are too tight!
Unless you are a weak woman like me and must use a long handled extension bar! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
the point iwas trying to make was if you cant undo them with the tools you have in the car then they are to tight ,if you carry that all the time then thats fine.
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its so simple[if you fit and healthy] you get a new tyre fitted then when you collect it you check the nuts with the wheel brace provided if you cant undo them with it they are too tight!
Unless you are a weak woman like me and must use a long handled extension bar! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
the point iwas trying to make was if you cant undo them with the tools you have in the car then they are to tight ,if you carry that all the time then thats fine.
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