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Title: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 23 November 2012, 22:32:16
I know nothing of this story, other than it's the headline in tomorrow's DT.

https://twitter.com/davidquagmire/status/272098298867879936/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/davidquagmire/status/272098298867879936/photo/1)

I hope it's not true.  >:(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 November 2012, 22:40:39
I too hope it's a hoax!  :-\  It's entering the realms of George Orwell and the Thought Police if true!  :(

Mind you there was the case recently of the bus driver who lost his job for being a member of the BNP ( or something similar  :-\) so who knows!! I guess time will tell....  ::)
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 23 November 2012, 22:47:13
Story here now:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html)

 >:( >:(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: PhilRich on 23 November 2012, 22:50:06
This has surely got to be yet another sensationalised tabloid Porkie :-\
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 23 November 2012, 22:50:50
This has surely got to be yet another sensationalised tabloid Porkie :-\

Nope, I don't think so. The Telegraph is hardly a tabloid.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: PhilRich on 23 November 2012, 23:04:22
In that case Nick I am really speechless! :o
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Rods2 on 23 November 2012, 23:10:23
No hoax, labour run Rotherham council.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html)

I'm not surprised as this will become more common in all walks of live, with doors closed, including being employed by most major charities as they receive money from the EU on condition that they promote a pro-EU agenda. So the next time you see the names of a few charities, saying they support the EU view or more likely driective or pre-posed directive, they have been paid to say that, to make it look as if they have widespread support.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The EU is no different the the mafia, they buy institutions favours, with using our money to make offers too good to refuse.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The same applies in case you didn't know to EU pensions, their is a clause that it can be removed if you make anti-EU remarks. This is why Nick Clegg who has an EU pension, has and never will do or say anything against the EU.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The more you dig the more you realise what a power grabbing, anti-freedom, anti-democratic force the EU is, which is why I've gone over the years from negative to the EU to an absolute dislike of this corrupt organisation and its methods of using our money for its own propaganda.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

It is no accident that a country has many problems if they democratically vote for a right wing Government like Austria did about 10 years ago and Hungary did about two years ago, where they use all every effort and propaganda to slander that Government and pull every lever they can to force its downfall. Don't think for a minute that the replacement of democratically elected prime ministers in Greece and Italy with their appointed apparatchiks is the only anti-democratic dirty trick in their book.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Vote UKIP.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Vamps on 23 November 2012, 23:55:05
This is absolutely ridiculous and for the second time today, professionally, I am speechless......... :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: geoffr70 on 24 November 2012, 02:03:37
It's about time for a revolution, to stop all these bloodsucking mind controlling vampires that want to force this incomprehensibly wrong system of control onto us all.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: cleggy on 24 November 2012, 05:27:02
Have I hibernated and it's now April  ::)

This cannot be true, if it is someone has a lot to answer for >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Martian on 24 November 2012, 06:40:24
It's about time for a revolution, to stop all these bloodsucking mind controlling vampires that want to force this incomprehensibly wrong system of control onto us all.
Aside from the multitude of laws that have been introduced over the last 10 years or so that pretty much prevent anybody from even getting together for a meeting to discuss such action, nobody has the gonads for it for these days  :(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Varche on 24 November 2012, 09:41:44
Fargae spoke well on the subject on Sky News this morning.

There is a by election in Rotherham very shortly. This episode will have bolstered UKIPs standing.

Maybe the Labour "bigots" in the council thought the foster parents were BNP. Like Rods2 says if you don't toe the party line.

Funny how people confuse anti immigration with racism.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: cleggy on 24 November 2012, 09:45:33
Fargae spoke well on the subject on Sky News this morning.

There is a by election in Rotherham very shortly. This episode will have bolstered UKIPs standing.

Maybe the Labour "bigots" in the council thought the foster parents were BNP. Like Rods2 says if you don't toe the party line.

Funny how people confuse anti immigration with racism.

It is Rotherham, total IQ of the populace = 3 ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 November 2012, 10:11:59
It will be interesting to see how the mainstream media treat this story in the next few days.  I suspect it will be quietly forgotten....  ::)

If a Tory council banned a couple from fostering for being members of a trade union however, I bet they'd cause an absolute stink about it....  :-\
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 24 November 2012, 10:17:25
It will be interesting to see how the mainstream media treat this story in the next few days.  I suspect it will be quietly forgotten....  ::)

If a Tory council banned a couple from fostering for being members of a trade union however, I bet they'd cause an absolute stink about it....  :-\

Headlines on the BBC, Tigger.  :o

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20474120 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20474120)
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: STMO123 on 24 November 2012, 10:22:24
Rotheram. Why does that ring a bell? Oh yes .....safeguarding of children not up to scratch..grooming of children by gangs of asian men...hmmmm...
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 24 November 2012, 10:22:43
Now this is completely against our democratic ideals of free speech!!

This is totally out of order, and smacks of a totalitarian state, not Great Britain in 2012!

Does it follow that people who support other political parties that a local council "don't like" will also lose rights and expectations??!!!

The UKIP are hardly in the "extreme" part of politics, but so what if they were!!

A Labour run council you will note!!!!

I am speechless like the rest of you.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Johnny English on 24 November 2012, 10:25:30
No hoax, labour run Rotherham council.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html)

I'm not surprised as this will become more common in all walks of live, with doors closed, including being employed by most major charities as they receive money from the EU on condition that they promote a pro-EU agenda. So the next time you see the names of a few charities, saying they support the EU view or more likely driective or pre-posed directive, they have been paid to say that, to make it look as if they have widespread support.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The EU is no different the the mafia, they buy institutions favours, with using our money to make offers too good to refuse.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The same applies in case you didn't know to EU pensions, their is a clause that it can be removed if you make anti-EU remarks. This is why Nick Clegg who has an EU pension, has and never will do or say anything against the EU.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

The more you dig the more you realise what a power grabbing, anti-freedom, anti-democratic force the EU is, which is why I've gone over the years from negative to the EU to an absolute dislike of this corrupt organisation and its methods of using our money for its own propaganda.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

It is no accident that a country has many problems if they democratically vote for a right wing Government like Austria did about 10 years ago and Hungary did about two years ago, where they use all every effort and propaganda to slander that Government and pull every lever they can to force its downfall. Don't think for a minute that the replacement of democratically elected prime ministers in Greece and Italy with their appointed apparatchiks is the only anti-democratic dirty trick in their book.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Vote UKIP.

Spotted !  :y
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Johnny English on 24 November 2012, 10:28:54
 I'm not sure of existing of any scenario in case of a member wants to quit... :o
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 24 November 2012, 10:33:03
Just tweeted by Andrew Neil:

"Assumed story about Rotherham removing kids from foster parents because they were UKIP was tabloid hyperbole. It's 100% true. Astounding."

He won't let the story drop, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Johnny English on 24 November 2012, 10:38:14
I Can't imagine the case mentioned above... :-\ my guess is shouldn't speak about politics hard at home just hardly. I know it on my own examp as my father was a really communist till it was existing and still can't accept right wing thoughts around himself eg national interests or national symbols. When we are together we don't talk about embarrassing themes... :y
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 24 November 2012, 10:45:42
UKIP Croydon, where the candidate is Winston McKenzie. I'm astounded to see what a "racist" party gathering looks like. ::) ::) ::)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n270/v6nick/UKIPCroydon.jpg)
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 24 November 2012, 10:49:25
UKIP Croydon, where the candidate is Winston McKenzie. I'm astounded to see what a "racist" party gathering looks like. ::) ::) ::)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n270/v6nick/UKIPCroydon.jpg)


Yes Nick, and that tells you everything about that particular LABOUR council!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 November 2012, 10:51:20
Classic that Nickbat  :y ;D ;D ;D

Quick, sent a link of that to the muppets of Rotherham social services and demand a statement  ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: ozzycat on 24 November 2012, 12:37:30
 >:( >:( >:( i think its disgusting >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: cleggy on 24 November 2012, 14:41:42
Classic that Nickbat  :y ;D ;D ;D

Quick, sent a link of that to the muppets of Rotherham social services and demand a statement  ::) ;D ;D ;D

TG, have you sent it or suggesting that Nickbat does. ???

Either way someone should and post the reply if they get one ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

joyce.thacker@rotherham.gov.uk

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/info/200026/council_departments/1194/children_and_young_peoples_services/1
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: r1 on 24 November 2012, 14:42:13
Now this is completely against our democratic ideals of free speech!!

This is totally out of order, and smacks of a totalitarian state, not Great Britain in 2012!

Does it follow that people who support other political parties that a local council "don't like" will also lose rights and expectations??!!!

The UKIP are hardly in the "extreme" part of politics, but so what if they were!!

A Labour run council you will note!!!!

I am speechless like the rest of you.


agree 100%
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Bionic on 24 November 2012, 14:48:39
 :D Just one more reason why I will never vote for Labour because this is a Labour led council!
As per usual...some big headed "I would like to be god" childrens department workers have put their own warped interpretation into a scenario that in all probability will now deprive innocent kids of a family even though they have been accepted by a very thorough pre-fostering rigmarole which delved deeply into their lives and those of their relatives!
Those inteferring busybodies ought to be put against a wall and shot.......
Perhaps if they had taken the time to fully read, (that is if they could understand english themselves), the profile of the UKIP party they would have to accept that it is the same train of thought of the majority of the voting public. Immigration is a problem, a massive one, and that being so it does not make anyone who has that opinion a racist!
Perhaps those who made the decision would be better employed as clowns................ ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Rods2 on 24 November 2012, 14:57:19
I'm not sure of existing of any scenario in case of a member wants to quit... :o

Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty allows countries to leave the EU and the EU must negotiate with them a trade agreement or an EEA agreement, if the country so desires.

So when we leave, it will makes sense for us to have a trade agreement on the single market and some sensible arrangement on visa free travel and the reciprocal movement of people through employment.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 November 2012, 15:03:46
Classic that Nickbat  :y ;D ;D ;D

Quick, sent a link of that to the muppets of Rotherham social services and demand a statement  ::) ;D ;D ;D

TG, have you sent it or suggesting that Nickbat does. ???

Either way someone should and post the reply if they get one ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

joyce.thacker@rotherham.gov.uk

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/info/200026/council_departments/1194/children_and_young_peoples_services/1

I never could spell  :P :P :P ;D

Best leave it for someone else to sent   send, I may   will end up getting very slightly carried away if I send it  :-X :-X ;)
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Jukeboxnut on 24 November 2012, 17:26:08
Labour run councils, what an abhorrence, they should all be destroyed.
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 24 November 2012, 19:19:13
Labour run councils, what an abhorrence, they should all be destroyed.

I agree, but in our democracy we both will get into serious trouble if we try!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2012, 20:30:38
I don't think this is a story that will go away quickly, that the social workers are misguided would be an understatement........ >:( :-X :-X :-X

Oh and Steve, you were thinking of Doncaster................. :( :(
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 24 November 2012, 21:04:36
http://order-order.com/2012/11/24/progressive-culture-war-caused-rotheram-ukip-child-catcher/ (http://order-order.com/2012/11/24/progressive-culture-war-caused-rotheram-ukip-child-catcher/)

I keep reading about this Common Purpose thing. Anyone know anything about it?  ??? ;)
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Vamps on 24 November 2012, 21:15:36
http://www.ocvs.govt.nz/documents/publications/newsletters/2168-networks-local-communities.pdf

But I am not getting involved in any further discussion on this matter............... :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 24 November 2012, 21:19:58
http://www.ocvs.govt.nz/documents/publications/newsletters/2168-networks-local-communities.pdf

But I am not getting involved in any further discussion on this matter............... :-X :-X :-X

Thanks, Vamps. Makes interesting reading, especially Page 81. There's a name there that I think I may recognise.  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Rods2 on 24 November 2012, 23:25:09
According to "The Foster Guide" by Sandwell Council in the West Midlands. All white people are institutionally racist, until they prove otherwise. With official attitudes like this is it any surprise with what has happened in Rotherham.  :o :o :o :o

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Foster+guidebook+labelled+white+people+'racist'+Council+had+to+scrap...-a0297926307 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Foster+guidebook+labelled+white+people+'racist'+Council+had+to+scrap...-a0297926307)

You have also got the socialist belief that our most immediate focal point of 'the family' is wrong, where they believe it should be the state. Which is why you have seen our tax system, welfare state and agenda driven social services actively work against the institution of marriage.  >:(

Remember, UKIP have been called a racist party by the mainstream parties to try and score political points, where they are growing from a fringe party towards being a mainstream party and where UKIP are taking a stand against mass migration into the UK. To stop migration been discussed Labour have always called anybody that is against mass migration a racist. Although in reality mass migration and racism are two completely different things.

As a result of the Labour party shooting itself in both feet it is going to be interesting to see how UKIP do in the Rotherham and Croydon by-elections.  :y
Title: Re: Foster couple lose children for being members of UKIP
Post by: Nickbat on 24 November 2012, 23:38:51
According to "The Foster Guide" by Sandwell Council in the West Midlands. All white people are institutionally racist, until they prove otherwise. With official attitudes like this is it any surprise with what has happened in Rotherham.  :o :o :o :o

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Foster+guidebook+labelled+white+people+'racist'+Council+had+to+scrap...-a0297926307 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Foster+guidebook+labelled+white+people+'racist'+Council+had+to+scrap...-a0297926307)

You have also got the socialist belief that our most immediate focal point of 'the family' is wrong, where they believe it should be the state. Which is why you have seen our tax system, welfare state and agenda driven social services actively work against the institution of marriage.  >:(

Remember, UKIP have been called a racist party by the mainstream parties to try and score political points, where they are growing from a fringe party towards being a mainstream party and where UKIP are taking a stand against mass migration into the UK. To stop migration been discussed Labour have always called anybody that is against mass migration a racist. Although in reality mass migration and racism are two completely different things.

As a result of the Labour party shooting itself in both feet it is going to be interesting to see how UKIP do in the Rotherham and Croydon by-elections.  :y

Agreed, Rod. :y

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