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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 26 November 2012, 09:59:07
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Well the Tories are worried about UKIPs growing support costing them marginal seats. With the pact Fabricant hopes to get 40 more seats at the next election?
Here is hoping that Farage doesn't sign up. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20490937
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I can't believe Camoron has described UKIP as closet racists!! :( The war of words is hotting up!! :)
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Farage will never get into bed with the
new labour Torys all the time Cameron is the leader ;)
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The problem is that the UKIP vote will affect the Tory vote which in turn will allow the loony left in.
The european election in 2014 should be fun :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Are we getting a referendum , im confused . Surely its what the the people want :-\
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Are we getting a referendum , im confused . Surely its what the the people want :-\
Ah the referendum. ;D ;D ;D ;D Most brits seem to be in favour of a referendum. I am sure Rods2 or Nickbat will be along shortly to advise on who promised a referendum and when(and broke their promises) . Now Cameroon is saying that if UKIP don't steal his marginal seats he will give him a job and promise a referendum (IF) when he gets back in. i.e. 3 years and 364 days after the next election. Thankfully Farage has said no.
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I can't believe Camoron has described UKIP as closet racists!! :( The war of words is hotting up!! :)
I heard that, and as a Conservative Socialist I am not happy with that at all! >:(
Cameron, our beloved leader, must be getting worried, and I certainly see that UKIP have had a real boost from all that's happened! ::) ::)
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Are we getting a referendum , im confused . Surely its what the the people want :-\
Ah the referendum. ;D ;D ;D ;D Most brits seem to be in favour of a referendum. I am sure Rods2 or Nickbat will be along shortly to advise on who promised a referendum and when(and broke their promises) . Now Cameroon is saying that if UKIP don't steal his marginal seats he will give him a job and promise a referendum (IF) when he gets back in. i.e. 3 years and 364 days after the next election. Thankfully Farage has said no.
For what it is worth, I remember when Cameron became leader of the Conservatives that he vowed there would be a referendum on our membership of the EU. Then the Labour Government signed the Lisbon Treaty and it became legally impossible for him in government to fulfil that. :'( :'( pledge.
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Didn't he brush aside the Lisbon treaty argument and promise we'd still get a referendum at the time, though?
Either way, I doubt many of the electorate will ever take a Camoron manifesto pledge seriously again.
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Are we getting a referendum , im confused . Surely its what the the people want :-\
Ah the referendum. ;D ;D ;D ;D Most brits seem to be in favour of a referendum. I am sure Rods2 or Nickbat will be along shortly to advise on who promised a referendum and when(and broke their promises) . Now Cameroon is saying that if UKIP don't steal his marginal seats he will give him a job and promise a referendum (IF) when he gets back in. i.e. 3 years and 364 days after the next election. Thankfully Farage has said no.
For what it is worth, I remember when Cameron became leader of the Conservatives that he vowed there would be a referendum on our membership of the EU. Then the Labour Government signed the Lisbon Treaty and it became legally impossible for him in government to fulfil that. :'( :'( pledge.
Er, no. He could (and should, IMHO) have still held a referendum, there was no legal bar to him doing so. IF the result had been a 'No' vote then he may not have been able legally to de-ratify the Treaty, but it would have set him up as a PM who kept his word and would have strengthened his hand in dealings with Europe.
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I can't believe Camoron has described UKIP as closet racists!! :( The war of words is hotting up!! :)
I heard that, and as a Conservative Socialist I am not happy with that at all! >:(
Cameron, our beloved leader, must be getting worried, and I certainly see that UKIP have had a real boost from all that's happened! ::) ::)
Over the past few months he defiantly looks more like a man thats losing grip , his decisions on the EU will either make him or brake him imo . Denying a referendum will just add another nail in his coffin .
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I can't believe Camoron has described UKIP as closet racists!! :( The war of words is hotting up!! :)
I heard that, and as a Conservative Socialist I am not happy with that at all! >:(
Cameron, our beloved leader, must be getting worried, and I certainly see that UKIP have had a real boost from all that's happened! ::) ::)
???? By whom? Count me out. He is as bad as Blair but not as bad as McRuin. Even my dad , a staunch Conservative (in the absence of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis) thinks he and the party have reneged on their promises. He will be voting UKIP next time.
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I can't believe Camoron has described UKIP as closet racists!! :( The war of words is hotting up!! :)
I heard that, and as a Conservative Socialist I am not happy with that at all! >:(
Cameron, our beloved leader, must be getting worried, and I certainly see that UKIP have had a real boost from all that's happened! ::) ::)
???? By whom? Count me out. He is as bad as Blair but not as bad as McRuin. Even my dad , a staunch Conservative (in the absence of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis) thinks he and the party have reneged on their promises. He will be voting UKIP next time.
I was saying that tongue in cheek Varche :D :D ;)
He certainly needs to get a grip ::) ::)
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Liebour under BLier and McRuin made it an election manifesto pledge when they were elected for a third term. The French rejected the new EU constitution in a referendum, so it was redrafted with the word constitution removed and called "The Lisbon Treaty". Mcliar knew there was no chance of a UK referendum approving this new treaty. So, then McLiar said no referendum was required as the Lisbon treat was a minor tidying up exercise with no loss of UK powers. Mcliar then slithered like a slug in through the back door to sign the treaty hoping nobody would notice and slithered out again, but he was caught in the act by the press. The treaty extends the EU powers vastly with the EU having a constitution and all of powers to set up the institutions of the FSE like the EU diplomatic core and embassies. It also sets up a vast extension of qualified majority voting into many new areas, the full effects of which will be felt from 2014 onwards. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Billy Liar Dithering Dave of the CONservatives then tried the referendum promise to keep UKIP at bay at the last election, enough people were fooled including me, that they were the biggest party after the election, but as soon as his ass was polishing a cabinet chair, he said as the treaty had been signed, there was no point in having a referendum, so there would not be one. At the same time he forgot he was meant to be a Conservative prime minister and turned it into Labour Lite. As an ex-junior PR spiv, Dithering Dave only principles on what do the what focus groups say he should do and what are today's sound bites. IMHO Dithering Dave's principals are on a par with a dog with diarrhea on a bowling green. ::) ::) ::) ::)
When it comes to the EU, Dithering Dave is totally committed, so he gets out the KY cream, drops his trousers and then buries his head in the trough with the rest of the EU officials, while taking a royal rogering from all and sundry from European Governments and EU officials who think the UK deserve it. :o :o :o :o
The LibLabCons are posturing over the threat of UKIP, so they will all promise a referendum on the FSE treaty, which will lead to the abolition of the UK democracy, but as soon as they have won the election it will not happen. I won't get fooled again, where I follow the saying:
"Fool me once, shame of you, fool me twice, shame on me."
So the only way we are going to keep the pressure on is to vote UKIP whenever and wherever possible. This will be very important in the 2014 MEP elections as it is a proportional representation system, so UKIP will have more MEPs. The more there are, the more spanners they can put in Barosso works in trying to stop him becoming the EU's first communist dictator. :y :y :y :y
The CONservatives will only do a deal with UKIP, if UKIP have some MPs after the next election and he needs them to form a government. UKIP will only do a deal if Dithering Dave falls on his sword as I get the impression Nigel Farage has an intense personal dislike of the PR spiv. :o :o :o :o
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Well put Rods, my feelings exactly :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Thats what i was going to say ::) ;D ;D Well sad :y
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And UKIP really are THE mainstream party now, if one looks at their manifesto vs. public opinion.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2135/ukip_s_farage_is_more_mainstream_britain_than_cameron_will_ever_be (http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2135/ukip_s_farage_is_more_mainstream_britain_than_cameron_will_ever_be)
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