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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: SMD on 03 December 2012, 16:34:35
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Does jacking up the car terrify you? I bought a 3 ton clark jack two weeks ago and when I jack up the jack I keep thinking it will drop the car and when jacked up high enough to get stands underneath, I feel it will tip the car on its side (silly I know :-[) Also when the jack moves towards as if lifts does the car move with it? :D
I needs some jacking confidence ::)
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Jacking only worries me if I would have to use a scissor jack, as supplied with the vehicle.
A trolley jack, plus axle stands, is never a problem if correctly positioned. Yes the trolley jack does move in towards the car as you go higher, and the angle of the arm changes to a more vertical position. ;)
PS If you are really concerned when the car is up on the jack and axle stands, then always put the spare wheel under a corner, and place car ramps underneath as well. If, in the very unlikely event, the car started to come down, it would land on them. You can recover from that quite safely. ;)
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It is correctly positioned. I've watched many a forum mechanic work on my car and have learnt a thing or two ;D
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Trolley jack moves forward naturally as it rises, unless the wheels gets hooked in the block paving gaps like mine do. ::) I use two trolley jacks, one either side, to lift car equally if I'm putting axle stands under.
Just be sensible about how and where you lift and you should be alright but never take chances. :y
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Is it only me or? Yep ::) ;)
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Have you noticed men in white coats following you around?
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Have you noticed men in white coats following you around?
Ignore them SMD ;)
They just think you are a wimp! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Us ladies can get away with such emotions!! You cannot!!:D :D ;)
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Does jacking up the car terrify you? I bought a 3 ton clark jack two weeks ago and when I jack up the jack I keep thinking it will drop the car and when jacked up high enough to get stands underneath, I feel it will tip the car on its side (silly I know :-[) Also when the jack moves towards as if lifts does the car move with it? :D
I needs some jacking confidence ::)
You must be a short arse
Do you sit on a booster seat when you drive ? :D :D
Oh, you said standS ::) ;D ;D
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Trolley jack moves forward naturally as it rises, unless the wheels gets hooked in the block paving gaps like mine do. ::) I use two trolley jacks, one either side, to lift car equally if I'm putting axle stands under.
Just be sensible about how and where you lift and you should be alright but never take chances. :y
;D :(
Thats what i got then , i got the car up so high then heard the creaking an let it back down again ;D
Do you raise one side right up onto a ramp then raise the other side , seems very high angle then there is no place to put the jack in the center of the car from the front :-\ :-\
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I was very nervous to begin with, you get more confident as time goes on. Big ass jacks help, more solid than the smaller ones
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You will never tip it over with a jack.
If jacking one side high, make sure you chock other side, as you can lift both wheels on the jacked side with relative ease.
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Trolley jack moves forward naturally as it rises, unless the wheels gets hooked in the block paving gaps like mine do. ::) I use two trolley jacks, one either side, to lift car equally if I'm putting axle stands under.
Just be sensible about how and where you lift and you should be alright but never take chances. :y
;D :(
Thats what i got then , i got the car up so high then heard the creaking an let it back down again ;D
Do you raise one side right up onto a ramp then raise the other side , seems very high angle then there is no place to put the jack in the center of the car from the front :-\ :-\
That was your back mate ;D ;D ;D :D
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That was your back mate
:D ;D
No point in me jacking the car up now , if i ever did get underneath ill never get back up ;D
I think the main thing is like tunnie said having a decent big ass jack to do the job with ..
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Have you noticed men in white coats following you around?
Ignore them SMD ;)
They just think you are a wimp! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Us ladies can get away with such emotions!! You cannot!!:D :D ;)
I think TB was aiming that at me Lizzie, reference my unfunny comment. ::) ::) ;) ;) ;D ;D
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Trolley jack moves forward naturally as it rises, unless the wheels gets hooked in the block paving gaps like mine do. ::) I use two trolley jacks, one either side, to lift car equally if I'm putting axle stands under.
Just be sensible about how and where you lift and you should be alright but never take chances. :y
You must have long arms buddy ;)
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You've got Jack-o-phobia. It makes you think you're off your trolley. ;) ;) ;D ;D (Well I thought it was funny ::))
Have you noticed men in white coats following you around?
Ignore them SMD ;)
They just think you are a wimp! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Us ladies can get away with such emotions!! You cannot!!:D :D ;)
I think TB was aiming that at me Lizzie, reference my unfunny comment. ::) ::) ;) ;) ;D ;D
Ah, right. I took it to mean something different ::) ::) :D.
We all require men with white coats I think; in my case ones that look like Daniel Craig ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Ah, right. I took it to mean something different ::) ::) :D.
Bloody women - can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em ;D
:-* :-*
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Ah, right. I took it to mean something different ::) ::) :D.
Bloody women - can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em ;D
:-* :-*
Oh dear, that's not nice! ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-*
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Ah, right. I took it to mean something different ::) ::) :D.
Bloody women - can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em ;D
:-* :-*
Well you could, but someone might see fit to write in to the Guardian about it ::)
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When I was about 18 I borrowed my Dad's Mk4 Cortina estate and during the 'loan' period I had a puncture. :( So I jacked it up using the cars jack, but while I was changing the wheel the car settled back down to earth and the jack disappeared up into the mass of rust and filler that masqueraded as the sill.... :o
Luckily some blokes helped me out and I was soon on my way home, wondering how I could explain to my Dad the holy mess that was his sill! ::) Predictably he initially went ballistic, until he saw the extent of the rot!! ;D
To this day I'm very cautious about jacking on bodywork even if it is a proper jacking point.... ::) :)
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When I was about 18 I borrowed my Dad's Mk4 Cortina estate and during the 'loan' period I had a puncture. :( So I jacked it up using the cars jack, but while I was changing the wheel the car settled back down to earth and the jack disappeared up into the mass of rust and filler that masqueraded as the sill.... :o
Luckily some blokes helped me out and I was soon on my way home, wondering how I could explain to my Dad the holy mess that was his sill! ::) Predictably he initially went ballistic, until he saw the extent of the rot!! ;D
To this day I'm very cautious about jacking on bodywork even if it is a proper jacking point.... ::) :)
Not surprised buy those words for the cortina ;D No wonder your a little cautious , in those days for me removing rust and adding filler was a weekly task ::)
I still haven't built up enough courage to drive up the ramps with the omega , thinking ill shoot right over the endge of them ;D
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When I was about 18 I borrowed my Dad's Mk4 Cortina estate and during the 'loan' period I had a puncture. :( So I jacked it up using the cars jack, but while I was changing the wheel the car settled back down to earth and the jack disappeared up into the mass of rust and filler that masqueraded as the sill.... :o
Luckily some blokes helped me out and I was soon on my way home, wondering how I could explain to my Dad the holy mess that was his sill! ::) Predictably he initially went ballistic, until he saw the extent of the rot!! ;D
To this day I'm very cautious about jacking on bodywork even if it is a proper jacking point.... ::) :)
Not surprised buy those words for the cortina ;D No wonder your a little cautious , in those days for me removing rust and adding filler was a weekly task ::)
I still haven't built up enough courage to drive up the ramps with the omega , thinking ill shoot right over the endge of them ;D
All that reminds me of my first car, a 1960 Austin Farina bodied A40, that I bought for £15 in 1970.
I wanted to jack the car up, so, as you do, I put the car's own jack into a jacking point. I wound it up only to find that the bodywork went up, but the chassis stayed on the floor. Where metal should be there was just rust, if that, with the rest being old copies of the Daily Mirror mixed up with filler! :o :o :o
My naivety stopped there, with an uncle training me in car mechanics, with night school as well, so I wouldn't be done again! ;D ;D ;D
From then on I used a bottle jack, as she passed the MOT twice before I obtained my first company car in 1972. The A40 then went to the scrap yard, with me previously selling the registration for £15. :D :D ;)
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Jacking cars up has never worried me but jacking up 40 footers can be fun. In my early days i worked at a Volvo HGV workshop and we looked after a fleet of reefers'.
A number of times we would have a tractor unit, normaly an F10/F12 over the pit with a tri axle 'reefer on the back and we would have the whole rig up on pit jacks.
We would have two guys on the trailer, one each side, two guys on the tractor unit, one up top and one down below and one guy on the 'reefer engine, complete service in two hours flat.
The other thing that used to get me was jacking up the lorry cabs. Done this once on the old ERF shunter we had but someone had take the pin out of the top of the jack ram, cab got to the tipping point and carried on into the tarmac ???. Had a TV crash through the windscreen as well.
Andy
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I had a capri fall off one axle stand about 5 minutes before i was to go underneath it :( that put me off a bit but still went underneath to take the gearbox out , then the gearbox fell and trapped my fingers >:(::)
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Years ago I had a 1950 MG Y Type which had a Jackall built in hydraulic jacking system which still worked. All you had to do was select either front, rear or all jacks and then operate a small pump under the bonnet and the car would lift about six inches off the road, pity cars do not have this system now. I think Ford Pilots of the same era had them as well.
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Only thing i really hate about jacking up any car to get 2 stands say under the front (1 each side) is you can always jack 1 side up fine put the axle stand under it no prob but if using a trolly jack as it lifts wheel just off floor as jack lifts car towards you the axle stand under the car on opposite side is now on 2 legs not all 3!!! pulling stand over, so to eliminate this prob i use a trolly jack on 1 side & a bottle vertical jack on other then put both axle stands under at same time.. ;)
but before i can even get jack out i have to drive it up onto 2 sloped 3"x8"x12" pieces of wood to get jack under it!!! :y
i calnt get my car on even my small 8" ramps without 2 pieces of 18" wood to make the ramp shallower because my bumper scrapes!! :'(
be even worse when ive fitted the steinmetz side skirts & front lip spoiler!!! :-\
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Only thing i really hate about jacking up any car to get 2 stands say under the front (1 each side) is you can always jack 1 side up fine put the axle stand under it no prob but if using a trolly jack as it lifts wheel just off floor as jack lifts car towards you the axle stand under the car on opposite side is now on 2 legs not all 3!!! pulling stand over, so to eliminate this prob i use a trolly jack on 1 side & a bottle vertical jack on other then put both axle stands under at same time.. ;)
but before i can even get jack out i have to drive it up onto 2 sloped 3"x8"x12" pieces of wood to get jack under it!!! :y
i calnt get my car on even my small 8" ramps without 2 pieces of 18" wood to make the ramp shallower because my bumper scrapes!! :'(
be even worse when ive fitted the steinmetz side skirts & front lip spoiler!!! :-\
Not if you "point" one of the legs "down" the car, and have the other two in line "across" the car... the axle stand cannot now "tip". Other way is two legs "down" the car and the third leg pointing "inwards". It can only "tip" if two legs are in line "down" the car and the "odd" leg is pointing outwards ..
If that makes any sense ... it pivots about the 2 legs .. you need the third leg pointing in a direction that prevents this ...
Far easier to show/do than to try and explain .. :(
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Only thing i really hate about jacking up any car to get 2 stands say under the front (1 each side) is you can always jack 1 side up fine put the axle stand under it no prob but if using a trolly jack as it lifts wheel just off floor as jack lifts car towards you the axle stand under the car on opposite side is now on 2 legs not all 3!!! pulling stand over, so to eliminate this prob i use a trolly jack on 1 side & a bottle vertical jack on other then put both axle stands under at same time.. ;)
but before i can even get jack out i have to drive it up onto 2 sloped 3"x8"x12" pieces of wood to get jack under it!!! :y
i calnt get my car on even my small 8" ramps without 2 pieces of 18" wood to make the ramp shallower because my bumper scrapes!! :'(
be even worse when ive fitted the steinmetz side skirts & front lip spoiler!!! :-\
Not if you "point" one of the legs "down" the car, and have the other two in line "across" the car... the axle stand cannot now "tip". Other way is two legs "down" the car and the third leg pointing "inwards". It can only "tip" if two legs are in line "down" the car and the "odd" leg is pointing outwards ..
If that makes any sense ... it pivots about the 2 legs .. you need the third leg pointing in a direction that prevents this ...
Far easier to show/do than to try and explain .. :(
What if your stands have four legs/feet? ::) ::) ::)
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/02/020110003.jpg?2)
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Only thing i really hate about jacking up any car to get 2 stands say under the front (1 each side) is you can always jack 1 side up fine put the axle stand under it no prob but if using a trolly jack as it lifts wheel just off floor as jack lifts car towards you the axle stand under the car on opposite side is now on 2 legs not all 3!!! pulling stand over, so to eliminate this prob i use a trolly jack on 1 side & a bottle vertical jack on other then put both axle stands under at same time.. ;)
but before i can even get jack out i have to drive it up onto 2 sloped 3"x8"x12" pieces of wood to get jack under it!!! :y
i calnt get my car on even my small 8" ramps without 2 pieces of 18" wood to make the ramp shallower because my bumper scrapes!! :'(
be even worse when ive fitted the steinmetz side skirts & front lip spoiler!!! :-\
Not if you "point" one of the legs "down" the car, and have the other two in line "across" the car... the axle stand cannot now "tip". Other way is two legs "down" the car and the third leg pointing "inwards". It can only "tip" if two legs are in line "down" the car and the "odd" leg is pointing outwards ..
If that makes any sense ... it pivots about the 2 legs .. you need the third leg pointing in a direction that prevents this ...
Far easier to show/do than to try and explain .. :(
What if your stands have four legs/feet? ::) ::) ::)
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/02/020110003.jpg?2)
point one foot across the car ... DOH !!! :) :) :)
anyway .. the post I was answering referred to stands with 2 + 1 = 3 feet .. :)
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When jacking the car up , are you supposed to have the handbrake off wheels chocked and gearbox in nuetral
:-\ Seems some say yes and some no .
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When jacking the car up , are you supposed to have the handbrake off wheels chocked and gearbox in nuetral
:-\ Seems some say yes and some no .
Depends, jacking the front? Yes handbrake on and rear wheels chocked.
Doing the back? Handbrake off, front chocked :y
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Oh, makes big difference changing rear springs with handbrake still on :-X ::)
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When jacking the car up , are you supposed to have the handbrake off wheels chocked and gearbox in nuetral
:-\ Seems some say yes and some no .
Depends, jacking the front? Yes handbrake on and rear wheels chocked.
Doing the back? Handbrake off, front chocked :y
Thats the way i would do it but someone i know just hoiks the car up on a jack front or back without chocks in nuetral and handbrake off :o he recons by having the handbrake on it puts too much strain on the jack :-\
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When jacking the car up , are you supposed to have the handbrake off wheels chocked and gearbox in nuetral
:-\ Seems some say yes and some no .
Depends, jacking the front? Yes handbrake on and rear wheels chocked.
Doing the back? Handbrake off, front chocked :y
Thats the way i would do it but someone i know just hoiks the car up on a jack front or back without chocks in nuetral and handbrake off :o he recons by having the handbrake on it puts too much strain on the jack :-\
As the jack is lifting a 2ton car, I doubt whether the hand brake is on or not makes little difference ???
Even on a flat surface, I would be very aware of the car possibly rolling in either direction and off the stands. Takes but a moment to chock a wheel, I always now put the wheel I have removed under the car as well, as yet another extra safety net.
Can never be too careful :y