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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 07 December 2012, 15:26:56
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20645838
It is to be hoped that the nurse hasn't committed suicide following a dressing down.
Whatever the reason, very very sad.
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Very, very sad. If it is, as feared, that she has taken her own life then the Australian DJ's concerned should be prosecuted for manslaughter >:( :'(
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This is just awful! Poor girl! :'( :'( :'( :'(
She was only doing her best. I hope the Australian pair now realise what they have done and feel really ashamed of themselves.
Yes I hope they are prosecuted for something, and at the very least lose their jobs! >:( >:(
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well ultimately it is treason...but the recording of hoax is still on there web site....very sad
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Never mind the Dj's,
I would be interested in how supportive was her management?
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Very, very sad. If it is, as feared, that she has taken her own life then the Australian DJ's concerned should be prosecuted for manslaughter >:( :'(
It seems this is not a one off, this pair have a bit of previous.
In 2009, they got a 14 year old girl to tell her mum, live on air, that she'd been raped when she was 12.
And he contacted a young female journalist who'd given one of his shows a bad review and suggested the 'fat **** shut her mouth, or he'd hunt her down'.
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A very sad state of affairs indeed.Would be interesting to see them tried for treason,it is I believe if not the only law then certainly one of very few,which can still carry the death penalty.
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I wonder if the family arranged the nurse's fate to discourage similar intrusive actions
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I wonder if the family arranged the nurse's fate to discourage similar intrusive actions
Put it this way, they are a couple of DJ's in Australia that will be avoiding tunnels for a while :-X :-X :D
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Apparently the Australian DJ's have been taken off the air :y :y :y :y :y :y
Seems like the radio station is distancing themselves from them.
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>:( >:( the two tw&*ts needto be taught a lesson a few years behind bars then they sould give 1/2 of there future earnings to support the nurses family
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It is deeply saddening, as is anyones demise, but once again we are speculating as to the cause of this assumed suicide and it's cause.
So I would tread with caution until the facts are established, having had a family member end their own life I can assure you that the real reasons will never really be known. :'(
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Very, very sad. If it is, as feared, that she has taken her own life then the Australian DJ's concerned should be prosecuted for manslaughter >:( :'(
That was my initial reaction to swmbo when we saw this on the news, should a link be proven... :( :( :(
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An exceptionally sad set of circumstances....
That some folks need to intrude into a wholly private matter regarding a potential birth for the sake of a few cheap laughs and giggles, to the other extreme that a person - potentially/possibly - is so embarrassed or ashamed of their actions that they feel the need to end their involvement in the matter so precisely and terminally, well, thats just so sad.
And overall, such a piss poor reflection of the society that we have actively encouraged.
sad...... :-[
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In 2009, they got a 14 year old girl to tell her mum, live on air, that she'd been raped when she was 12.
What a pair of utter scumbags!! >:( As bad as we think our media are in this country with the phone hacking etc, I don't think that the broadcasters have gone this low... :-\
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It was a different DJ (Kyle Sandilands) on a show called the Kyle and Jackie O Show that got that poor kid involved.
It was the same radio station though!
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An exceptionally sad set of circumstances....
That some folks need to intrude into a wholly private matter regarding a potential birth for the sake of a few cheap laughs and giggles, to the other extreme that a person - potentially/possibly - is so embarrassed or ashamed of their actions that they feel the need to end their involvement in the matter so precisely and terminally, well, thats just so sad.
And overall, such a piss poor reflection of the society that we have actively encouraged.
sad...... :-[
Well said Broocie......
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+1 >:(
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+2
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
That about sums it up, with the information that 'we know' :( :( :(
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
Yes. The BBC, amongst others, repeatedly ran the story and tape. The dead nurse who answered the call - but did not give out confidential information (merely put the call through), does not have English as a first language. Yet the DJs obliquely mocked her for not realising it was a hoax call. Poor woman later knew she had done wrong and the media world was laughing at her. She decided she couldn't take it.
Sad, so sad. RIP. :'( :'(
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
That about sums it up, with the information that 'we know' :( :( :(
Thanks guys.
Ok well first of all it's very sad of course and it's very sad to think that someone would do this if that is the case.
HOWEVER
why is there not one post questioning the mental stability of this girl? yeah she gave away info incorrectly. yeah she may have took a bollocking of the highest order from her bosses. yes she may have been ridiculed. but come on.... killing yourself cos of this???
before i get any potential moaners..... this is just my opinion and is in no way taking away from the sadness of the situation.
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
That about sums it up, with the information that 'we know' :( :( :(
Thanks guys.
Ok well first of all it's very sad of course and it's very sad to think that someone would do this if that is the case.
HOWEVER
why is there not one post questioning the mental stability of this girl? yeah she gave away info incorrectly. yeah she may have took a bollocking of the highest order from her bosses. yes she may have been ridiculed. but come on.... killing yourself cos of this???
before i get any potential moaners..... this is just my opinion and is in no way taking away from the sadness of the situation.
That's why I said with what we know now.. ;) both swmbo and I tend to think there may be more to this than meets the eye, but she does hold down a responsible Job, I know that does not mean you can't have personal problems.....Christmas coming and her children are in Bristol...?? who know if this was the 'straw that broke the camels back' even if this turns out to be the case I think the DJ's have a lot to answer for..... :( :(
We have to take responsibility for our actions and sometimes a practical joke can backfire.....
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
That about sums it up, with the information that 'we know' :( :( :(
Thanks guys.
Ok well first of all it's very sad of course and it's very sad to think that someone would do this if that is the case.
HOWEVER
why is there not one post questioning the mental stability of this girl? yeah she gave away info incorrectly. yeah she may have took a bollocking of the highest order from her bosses. yes she may have been ridiculed. but come on.... killing yourself cos of this???
before i get any potential moaners..... this is just my opinion and is in no way taking away from the sadness of the situation.
She didn't give out the confidential information. However, no-one can underestimate the fact that she (and the other nurse) were made out to be foolish for not realising it was a hoax. I suspect she felt that would haunt her for the rest of her life. The DJs mocked her and the much of the world joined in their derision. None of us can understand how it must feel. :(
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Am I right in thinking that, going on info we have at the moment........
These DJs called the hospital jokingly pretending to be the Queen trying to get info on the birth. This nurse falls for it and gives out confidential information to them.
Then the said nurse is believed to have committed suicide because of the shame?
That about sums it up, with the information that 'we know' :( :( :(
Thanks guys.
Ok well first of all it's very sad of course and it's very sad to think that someone would do this if that is the case.
HOWEVER
why is there not one post questioning the mental stability of this girl? yeah she gave away info incorrectly. yeah she may have took a bollocking of the highest order from her bosses. yes she may have been ridiculed. but come on.... killing yourself cos of this???
before i get any potential moaners..... this is just my opinion and is in no way taking away from the sadness of the situation.
That's why I said with what we know now.. ;) both swmbo and I tend to think there may be more to this than meets the eye, but she does hold down a responsible Job, I know that does not mean you can't have personal problems.....Christmas coming and her children are in Bristol...?? who know if this was the 'straw that broke the camels back' even if this turns out to be the case I think the DJ's have a lot to answer for..... :( :(
We have to take responsibility for our actions and sometimes a practical joke can backfire.....
fair point mate. :y
better wait for all the facts. just my initial thoughts :y
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
It never ceases to amaze me how much information I can get without the informer checking that I am who I say I am............some organisations will ask for a faxed request in an emergency or even an email which will confirm who I am via the address, but I have a reputaion, get called 'Poriot' for my enquiring techniques on the telephone, and I must admit it is a part of the Job I love... :-X :-X
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
It never ceases to amaze me how much information I can get without the informer checking that I am who I say I am............some organisations will ask for a faxed request in an emergency or even an email which will confirm who I am via the address, but I have a reputaion, get called 'Poriot' for my enquiring techniques on the telephone, and I must admit it is a part of the Job I love... :-X :-X
Well, this is what I'm getting at. I'd be pretty livid if someone was able to get confidential medical information on me in one phone call (and any medical information is confidential, IMHO). Why isn't there a more professional setup answering the phone calls with some staff trained in dealing with difficult callers rather than administering jabs?
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
If "HM the Queen" apparently calls at 05.30am, and your a nurse - not a receptionist - and you have the Duchess of Cambridge in your care...would you ask "HM the Queen" for proof of identity? ???
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
If "HM the Queen" apparently calls at 05.30am, and your a nurse - not a receptionist - and you have the Duchess of Cambridge in your care...would you ask "HM the Queen" for proof of identity? ???
Exactly my point. Why was a nurse answering the phone? Because a call centre droid wouldn't care who you were.
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
If "HM the Queen" apparently calls at 05.30am, and your a nurse - not a receptionist - and you have the Duchess of Cambridge in your care...would you ask "HM the Queen" for proof of identity? ???
Exactly my point. Why was a nurse answering the phone? Because a call centre droid wouldn't care who you were.
I don't think The King Edward VII has call centres (thank God!), and even if it did, 05.30 am would see it unmanned!!! ;)
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Oh yes, and "call centre".
Two words guaranteed to get my back up before I even dial. ;) ;D ;D ;D
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IME, hospitals won't give out any information over the phone, period. I'd expect that to be especially strictly enforced when the gutter press are likely to be sniffing found a high profile patient, so why was a nurse ever put in this position in the first place? Why were calls not being handled by a call centre full of trained "'puter says no" types who simply don't have any information or contact with the patients in the first place?
Desperately sad that she appears to have had the full weight of this sad reflection on modern life resting on her shoulders. :'(
If "HM the Queen" apparently calls at 05.30am, and your a nurse - not a receptionist - and you have the Duchess of Cambridge in your care...would you ask "HM the Queen" for proof of identity? ???
Exactly my point. Why was a nurse answering the phone? Because a call centre droid wouldn't care who you were.
I don't think The King Edward VII has call centres (thank God!), and even if it did, 05.30 am would see it unmanned!!! ;)
It was reported that there was an error on the part of the Hospital's administration system. When a Royal is in residence calls concerning them should be directed to senior police officers to ascertain the true nature of the call, and from what was said I suspect normally their is a set procedure whereby, say if the Queen called, which in fact would be a Royal Protection Officer in the first instance, verification is gained.
An awful failure to follow procedure was apparently made, and the poor nurse fell victim to the consequences of it.
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Contrary to whatever the hospital said about "supporting" the nurse, she probably had the rollicking of her life and got suspended immediately, probably added to whatever stresses she was going through
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Contrary to whatever the hospital said about "supporting" the nurse, she probably had the rollicking of her life and got suspended immediately, probably added to whatever stresses she was going through
That I think is what will come out later. As another poster stated, when someone commits suicide it is for more than one reason, and it is an accumulation of "problems" that can send someone into a very dark place indeed!
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The nurse never took her life because of a prank call from a couple of typical aussie DJ's. It would have been a collection of things that was going on in here life that she couldn't handle for what ever reasons.
At the end of the day, there are 2 parents who will be organising there daughters funeral today and 2 young kids who won't be opening there christmas boxes with there mother this year or ever again.
THAT is the real tragedy here, nothing else :(
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The nurse never took her life because of a prank call from a couple of typical aussie DJ's. It would have been a collection of things that was going on in here life that she couldn't handle for what ever reasons.
At the end of the day, there are 2 parents who will be organising there daughters funeral today and 2 young kids who won't be opening there christmas boxes with there mother this year or ever again.
THAT is the real tragedy here, nothing else :(
Well said, :'( :'(
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Driving someone to suicide is murder as far as i'm concerned , it's bullying, pure and simple, it's stupid, immature, uncivilised, contemptible, and worthy of karmic retribution, and i'd dearly like to visit the pain they caused back on the dj's tenfold. and if it were YOUR sister/mother/cousin/school friend who'd been broken by this pair of utter idiots, what then would you say?
(for the record, i'v never found piss-take prank "comedy" the remotest bit funny, the whole Jeremy Beadle , or even the Borat thing has always been something i detested..... )
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Driving someone to suicide is murder as far as i'm concerned , it's bullying, pure and simple, it's stupid, immature, uncivilised, contemptible, and worthy of karmic retribution, and i'd dearly like to visit the pain they caused back on the dj's tenfold. and if it were YOUR sister/mother/cousin/school friend who'd been broken by this pair of utter idiots, what then would you say?
(for the record, i'v never found piss-take prank "comedy" the remotest bit funny, the whole Jeremy Beadle , or even the Borat thing has always been something i detested..... )
. . . and let's not forget the Russell Brand / Jonathan Ross "prank" on Andrew Sachs a few years ago >:(
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Contrary to whatever the hospital said about "supporting" the nurse, she probably had the rollicking of her life and got suspended immediately, probably added to whatever stresses she was going through
I have some familiarity with "high end" private sector healthcare, and I would be certain of the above.
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Driving someone to suicide is murder as far as i'm concerned , it's bullying, pure and simple, it's stupid, immature, uncivilised, contemptible, and worthy of karmic retribution, and i'd dearly like to visit the pain they caused back on the dj's tenfold. and if it were YOUR sister/mother/cousin/school friend who'd been broken by this pair of utter idiots, what then would you say?
(for the record, i'v never found piss-take prank "comedy" the remotest bit funny, the whole Jeremy Beadle , or even the Borat thing has always been something i detested..... )
People in life are pushed over the edge by a combination of things not just one instance Max ;)
But sometimes it only takes one thing to make a difference, sadly :(
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I don't mind prank calls that end with the caller stating who they really are and the recipient sees the funny side.
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This is indeed a very sad incident indeed, i agree with a lot of the coments that have already been posted.
However the "Aussie" pair started a ripple in a teacup which the worlds media quickly turned into a storm.
Yes i believe there are sides to this we do not and may never know, but now the media which i feel caused the most pain should back off for the sake of her family.
Just my Tpence worth and my thoughts go out to her family :( :( :(
Rob
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Whilst the death of this nurse is truly saddening, especially at this time of year :'(
I can't believe that this prank call would have ever been made if the djs/radio station had considered this outcome even remotely possible :-\ Even Prince Charles was making a joke about the call the following day...
Was this call really that far removed from Scott Mills calls to various places :-\ That pizza shop owner got so worked up he could easily have had a heart attack :-\
I suspect that once exposed as a prank call, that poor nurse would have been hounded by the press trying to hear her side of events, also an amount of ribbing by her colleagues would have been highly likely. The hospital might also have handled the whole situation less than sensitively :-\ I'm sure that she won't be the last person to take their own life following a pre christmas dismissal :'(. (of course I highly doubt that they would admit to that now >:() All of the above is speculative, of course, but a combination of factors obviously led to this tragic outcome.
Any suggestion of conspiracy theories only serve to fuel the fire, and we as a society are as guilty of that as the media that provides it for us to lap up. If we didn't lap it up, there might actually be something worth reading in the press :-X
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Driving someone to suicide is murder as far as i'm concerned , it's bullying, pure and simple, it's stupid, immature, uncivilised, contemptible, and worthy of karmic retribution, and i'd dearly like to visit the pain they caused back on the dj's tenfold. and if it were YOUR sister/mother/cousin/school friend who'd been broken by this pair of utter idiots, what then would you say?
(for the record, i'v never found piss-take prank "comedy" the remotest bit funny, the whole Jeremy Beadle , or even the Borat thing has always been something i detested..... )
. . . and let's not forget the Russell Brand / Jonathan Ross "prank" on Andrew Sachs a few years ago >:(
That need never, indeed should never have been broadcast, and whilst in very poor taste, it was ultimately a shockingly piss poor management decision that led to it ever seeing the light of day. :-\ As a follower of that particular show, I was surprised just how far over the line that one item went, it was after all a mere 5 minutes in a two hour production, that had up to that point been entertaining imho :-\