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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Steve B on 11 December 2012, 23:14:32
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enoch powell......................am i banned :y :y :y :y
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I think even Enoch would turn in his grave now..with whats going on in this country ..one way or another... :y
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worst mp...tracy crouch ???
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I think even Enoch would turn in his grave now..with whats going on in this country ..one way or another... :y
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,,i agree..what a sheme
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Did you see the latest census results that have been released.......Not really delved too much but one result was that 'white british' are in a minority in London.
Errr....I don't think I needed a census to tell me that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It may surprise people to know that Michael Foot and his wife often had Enoch Powell and his wife over for dinner,long after Enoch commited political suicide with his "rivers of blood" speech.
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Did you see the latest census results that have been released.......Not really delved too much but one result was that 'white british' are in a minority in London.
Errr....I don't think I needed a census to tell me that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
yes i did ...top right of the screen people.. look at it ...we are history :y
http://news.sky.com/story/1023763/census-rise-in-immigrants-boosts-population
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It may surprise people to know that Michael Foot and his wife often had Enoch Powell and his wife over for dinner,long after Enoch commited political suicide with his "rivers of blood" speech.
is that the same speech were he muttered words about sending them all back,or words to that effect???
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It may surprise people to know that Michael Foot and his wife often had Enoch Powell and his wife over for dinner,long after Enoch commited political suicide with his "rivers of blood" speech.
is that the same speech were he muttered words about sending them all back,or words to that effect???
i think he was just trying to let us what we were in for and what we were doing .....and now i am aware that he did not talk crap and that he seen the future..he was dead right....so he goes there as my top mp............
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Yep.Its still a surpirse to me that he made that speeech tbh.Nothing to do with how true or otherwise his predictions were,but it should have been obvious to him that his career was finished the minute the words came out of his mouth.
He was an extremely intelligent man,almost scarily so.He was on a different level intellectualy to almost all of his peers,and may well have been a future PM until that night.If he had worded it differently,his future and indeed the future of the country might just have been quite different ? Difficult to tell really.
The sad thing was that the NF type thugs latched onto some of his words and made hime their hero,and gave right wing politics a bad name which lasts to this day.
I have read that he was not at all a racist.He lived in Africa in his younger days,and loved the place and its people.He was reported to have wept,when he saw footage of South African police attacking black South Africans.
He was certainly an enigmatic character,but I loved to listen to him speak,just for the pleasure of hearing the great use of the language and see the intelligence in those piercing eyes,even when he was a very old man.
He hwas 100% right about Europe though.It was as though he could see into the future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alld4Og2sTE
A 48 minute documentary here for the insomniacs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXi6TMG8hTE
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Powell was just using a letter from a lady constituent about changes in the road she lived on to form the basis of his speech.
How accurate it was to become, indeed how far sighted, the trouble was a great man and politician has his career ruined by the left and liberals. If only we had listened :( :(
We now reap the rewards >:(
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It may surprise people to know that Michael Foot and his wife often had Enoch Powell and his wife over for dinner,long after Enoch commited political suicide with his "rivers of blood" speech.
is that the same speech were he muttered words about sending them all back,or words to that effect???
i think he was just trying to let us what we were in for and what we were doing .....and now i am aware that he did not talk crap and that he seen the future..he was dead right....so he goes there as my top mp............
Immigrants= full employment, British= the state will pay, simplistic, but someone prove me wrong..... :-X :-X :-X
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Purely hypothetical........
But had Enoch been alive and delivered that speech after the recent riots, what do you think the reaction would have been to it ;)
The same as before, or fuelled more riots, from whatever faction......supporting or against ?
Just interested to know what you think.....
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Purely hypothetical........
But had Enoch been alive and delivered that speech after the recent riots, what do you think the reaction would have been to it ;)
The same as before, or fuelled more riots, from whatever faction......supporting or against ?
Just interested to know what you think.....
You know my opinion ----- send the freakers who do not contibute or try to change this country back to their country of origin ;D ;D
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His concerns about uncontrolled mass immigration were correct imo,but to use the phrase "the black man will have the whip hand" and the mention of foaming red like the river Tiber etc. were very insensitively worded,and very easily (mis?) construed to include all immigrants and all black/non white people,thus feeding the mentality of mindless racists rather than people who had genuine concerns about an almost complete lack of control on our borders.
The stigma from that lasted long enough for anyone who had concerns about the more recent wave of completely uncontrolled immigration to be immediately shouted down as a mindless racist.
I just wish he had worded it differently.
An absolutely fascinating character though imo,whose whole life unfortunately has been largely ignored apart from certain parts of that one speech.
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Purely hypothetical........
But had Enoch been alive and delivered that speech after the recent riots, what do you think the reaction would have been to it ;)
The same as before, or fuelled more riots, from whatever faction......supporting or against ?
Just interested to know what you think.....
You know my opinion send the freakers back to their country of origin ;D ;D
too right cleggy
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His concerns about uncontrolled mass immigration were correct imo,but to use the phrase "the black man will have the whip hand" and the mention of foaming red like the river Tiber etc. were very insensitively worded,and very easily (mis?) construed to include all immigrants and all black/non white people,thus feeding the mentality of mindless racists rather than people who had genuine concerns about an almost complete lack of control on our borders.
The stigma from that lasted long enough for anyone who had concerns about the more recent wave of completely uncontrolled immigration to be immediately shouted down as a mindless racist.
I just wish he had worded it differently.
An absolutely fascinating character though imo,whose whole life unfortunately has been largely ignored apart from certain parts of that one speech.
I totally agree, Alb ;) Shame
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His concerns about uncontrolled mass immigration were correct imo,but to use the phrase "the black man will have the whip hand" and the mention of foaming red like the river Tiber etc. were very insensitively worded,and very easily (mis?) construed to include all immigrants and all black/non white people,thus feeding the mentality of mindless racists rather than people who had genuine concerns about an almost complete lack of control on our borders.
The stigma from that lasted long enough for anyone who had concerns about the more recent wave of completely uncontrolled immigration to be immediately shouted down as a mindless racist.
I just wish he had worded it differently.
An absolutely fascinating character though imo,whose whole life unfortunately has been largely ignored apart from certain parts of that one speech.
I totally agree, Alb ;) Shame
well tbh guys i only know of him due to that speech and thats because of my parents telling me,but he sounded like he knew what he was going on about and unfortunately we are now reeping the rewards of not listerning too him....why are there not more like him???
and yes call me racist if you like but i went for a job interview today and i was told IF i was of a different ethnic background i would be in tommorow,but as i am white english i am of a disadvantage....unbelivabe :-X
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So you never got the Kebab van job then, Mark ;D ;D ;D ;D
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no mate lol..... :y
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If I had to choose an MP from this generation it would Frank Field from the left and Michael Portillo from the right. Both seem to be slightly more trustworthy than most of them.
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Of the current crop,David Davies is a good man.Far too good for the modern Tory party.
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Some what biased as he has managed to stop the spread of speed cameras south of the river in Nottingham but I like Ken Clarke
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As for Enoch Powel's speach, if you replace the fraize "black man" will have the whip hand and replace it with " non indignious / imigrant" then he had it spot on so Enoch gets my vote for best MP.
Agree with Albtz about David Davis being a decient type.
He does a hell of alot of running around on behalf of his constituents and comes across as someone you could actually trust.
As for the worst, without doubt its got to be that true socialist and champion of his own ego / back pocket the working man, John Prescott. >:(
The man who claims that a few weeks as a pish pot emptier on the SV Spiero before he managed to wangle himself a nice cozy job collecting the union subs outside the pay office on the docks on his ::) >:(
Not a bad starter job on the long hard working employment road upto the house of lords and ruler of the Soviet Socialist Republic of East Hull.
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Some what biased as he has managed to stop the spread of speed cameras south of the river in Nottingham but I like Ken Clarke
Can you send north of the river for a day ??? ??? ;D ;D