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Title: underfloor heating
Post by: pauls on 12 December 2012, 20:48:21
Evening,
 I was looking at underfloor heating for my daughters play room. I think it works out the floor area is about 5metres long by 5metres wide. by 7ft tall. The floor is plywood with carpet tiles.
The question is could I get electric underfloor heating for this space and would it heat the room to a comfortible temp so she can sit in there and do her homework etc. It is about 15metres from the house so I cant run water to it. Can I run this under carpet tiles/carpet. Or should I just stick with the oil rads.
Any ideas all welcome.
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: Martian on 13 December 2012, 08:42:09
You'll be looking at an average cost of £75 per square metre for the kit, plus you'll also have to factor in the cost of a sparkie as well as making sure the floor in her playroom is pretty much perfectly flat.

Underfloor heating can become quite expensive to run, and it takes ages for it to get the room to anywhere near a comfortable temperature (assuming the room is very well insulated to start with).
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: Gaffers on 13 December 2012, 08:49:17
Might be easier and cheaper to run a (good) extension cable to an oil radiator.  THey heat up spaces fairly quick.
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: pauls on 13 December 2012, 09:21:54
You'll be looking at an average cost of £75 per square metre for the kit, plus you'll also have to factor in the cost of a sparkie as well as making sure the floor in her playroom is pretty much perfectly flat.

Underfloor heating can become quite expensive to run, and it takes ages for it to get the room to anywhere near a comfortable temperature (assuming the room is very well insulated to start with).

I was surprised at how expensive this stuff is.. Think I will be sticking with the oil rads.
cheers.
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 December 2012, 10:04:32
I'd say you might even be able to do better than oil rads. If, as it sounds, it's an outhouse which only gets occasional use, you want something that'll heat it up quick on demand so you don't have to heat it when you're not using it.

I'd say convection, fan heaters or even radiant heaters such as halogen panels might be better suited. They'll make it feel warm in minutes whereas oil filled rads take a while to get going and, whilst they provide very comfortable heating, they're more suited to longer term background heat IMHO.

Certainly underfloor heating will have the opposite. you'll have to get the temperature of the floor up before the room starts to feel warm, and that could mean a tonne of concrete and tiles.

If the floor feels cold, perhaps insulate and then carpet or fit laminate on top?
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 December 2012, 10:51:07
floor heating is not a bad idea for childrens play room but if you can afford the continous heating cost..
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: pauls on 13 December 2012, 11:08:43
Its basically a shed I built for her about 8 years ago down the garden so she can play her music or whatever she wants to without upsetting the neighbours. its 18ft by 20ft by 7ft. it has 100mm insulation all round.drylinned with a wood floating floor and carpet tiles. I was looking for a more fixed heating because she uses it every day.
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: Martian on 13 December 2012, 11:11:06
I'd say you might even be able to do better than oil rads. If, as it sounds, it's an outhouse which only gets occasional use, you want something that'll heat it up quick on demand so you don't have to heat it when you're not using it.

I'd say convection, fan heaters or even radiant heaters such as halogen panels might be better suited. They'll make it feel warm in minutes whereas oil filled rads take a while to get going and, whilst they provide very comfortable heating, they're more suited to longer term background heat IMHO.

I was thinking along those lines myself, a small air curtain would easily heat the kind of area we are talking about in a very short space of time.
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: tunnie on 13 December 2012, 13:20:38
I like the idea of it, especially in the bathroom. As tiles are damn cold in winter mornings ;D

Thing is, what if it goes wrong, you need to lift the floor up?
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: tigers_gonads on 13 December 2012, 13:38:09
I like the idea of it, especially in the bathroom. As tiles are damn cold in winter mornings ;D

Thing is, what if it goes wrong, you need to lift the floor up?

Yup, but to be fair, i've never been back to one that had a problem with the element matting yet  :-X :-X :-X
Its normally the control unit if anything if you get a problem.

Great under any tiled surface  :y
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 13 December 2012, 14:55:31
solution is elevated surface like we use in computer departments so we can reach them easily ;D
 
burrying the pipes in cement is a no no for me.. its disastrous when the pipes leak..
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: Shackeng on 13 December 2012, 16:56:37
I have underfloor heating in my Conservatory (under screed), but something like this would be more useful for your application: http://www.warmup.co.uk/uk/heating-under-carpet-floating-floors.phtml :y
Title: Re: underfloor heating
Post by: Tony H on 13 December 2012, 20:24:22
Its basically a shed I built for her about 8 years ago down the garden so she can play her music or whatever she wants to without upsetting the neighbours. its 18ft by 20ft by 7ft. it has 100mm insulation all round.drylinned with a wood floating floor and carpet tiles. I was looking for a more fixed heating because she uses it every day.

Crikey that's some shed  :o!!! I'm bloody jelouse