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Title: family tree
Post by: ozzycat on 04 January 2013, 00:31:00
hello to you all
 a quick question which is the best site to resurch your family tree
  many thanks kevin
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: cam2502 on 04 January 2013, 10:09:27
There's an advert for ancestory.com on tv.
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Post by: STMO123 on 04 January 2013, 10:21:53
There's an advert for ancestory.com on tv.
I didn't find that very good. Maybe I'm not patient enough :-\
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Post by: cam2502 on 04 January 2013, 12:05:10
Church records of marriages and deaths could be helpful.
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Post by: pscocoa on 04 January 2013, 12:30:18
hello to you all
 a quick question which is the best site to resurch your family tree
  many thanks kevin

It is not easy to select - I am using Ancestry  - it is expensive but my family has origins in the Chartist movement of 1830 to 1848 and one of them fled to America and was very influential in trade union building and anti slavery - hence I have upgraded to the international level. Also checking passenger lists on liners from UK to US.

All the sites catch you on the extras - I think all do free trials - Genes Reunited etc but once you have started to enter data it becomes an obsession. My advice would be to select a specific small number of persons in your tree and try the different systems on that small group but do not be tempted to go too early up all the paths that seems to open up or else you will have wasted a lot of time in re-entering data within the final choice of site that you make.

Title: Re: family tree
Post by: SteveAvfc. on 04 January 2013, 13:45:22
Research my family tree about four years ago, used Ancestry.com was expensive but gave me plenty of useful info got me back to the early 1800s.

Try your local records office every thing you need there on microfilm and Church records they hold plenty of info.

Good luck it,s well worth the time and effort.  :y :y
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 04 January 2013, 14:37:29
hello to you all
 a quick question which is the best site to resurch your family tree
  many thanks kevin

It is not easy to select - I am using Ancestry  - it is expensive but my family has origins in the Chartist movement of 1830 to 1848 and one of them fled to America and was very influential in trade union building and anti slavery - hence I have upgraded to the international level. Also checking passenger lists on liners from UK to US.

All the sites catch you on the extras - I think all do free trials - Genes Reunited etc but once you have started to enter data it becomes an obsession. My advice would be to select a specific small number of persons in your tree and try the different systems on that small group but do not be tempted to go too early up all the paths that seems to open up or else you will have wasted a lot of time in re-entering data within the final choice of site that you make.


Now that would be very interesting research pscocoa!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :D

If you do not know about it already, I would highly recommend one book out of many on the subject;   Chase, M. Chartism A New History Manchester University Press (2007)

This will give you a full academic account of the origins, progress and characters of the most interesting movement in British history :D

PS Another book that has a good section on Chartism (Pages 92-138) plus the general undercurrent of threatened revolution in Britain is:

Royle, E. Revolutionary Britannia? Manchester University Press (2000)  ;)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: ozzycat on 04 January 2013, 14:43:23
 :y :y thanks for all your help  :y :y
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Post by: albitz on 04 January 2013, 15:17:53
The Mormon church can be a very useful source.Local records offices sre free and will save money if you use them.
I really cant see the point tbh.Ive no interest whatsoever in people who died before I was born,in fact I have an aunt who lives less than an hours drive from me who I havent got around to visiting ince I arrived in England in 1979. :D
Wife is into it in a big way though.
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Post by: Varche on 04 January 2013, 15:35:23
A good point to start is actually with talking to all the elderly members of your family.

Both sides of my family have interesting stories to tell.

Then once you have done that and documented itthen the real legwork begins.!

Albitz. Shame on you for not visiting your aunt. When she is dead it will be too late.
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Post by: pscocoa on 04 January 2013, 15:45:17
You can do interesting things which may be of interest to your family in the future - for example I have recorded sound clips of my dad talking about the 1930s, loaded old family photos etc - you also come across others searching the same people within their own trees and you often get added value to your own research.

Of course there is a lot of stuff which is war / services related which yields interesting facts and sometimes match up with family photos eg my dad's Egypt tour in the war
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Post by: pscocoa on 04 January 2013, 15:49:37
hello to you all
 a quick question which is the best site to resurch your family tree
  many thanks kevin

It is not easy to select - I am using Ancestry  - it is expensive but my family has origins in the Chartist movement of 1830 to 1848 and one of them fled to America and was very influential in trade union building and anti slavery - hence I have upgraded to the international level. Also checking passenger lists on liners from UK to US.

All the sites catch you on the extras - I think all do free trials - Genes Reunited etc but once you have started to enter data it becomes an obsession. My advice would be to select a specific small number of persons in your tree and try the different systems on that small group but do not be tempted to go too early up all the paths that seems to open up or else you will have wasted a lot of time in re-entering data within the final choice of site that you make.


Now that would be very interesting research pscocoa!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :D

If you do not know about it already, I would highly recommend one book out of many on the subject;   Chase, M. Chartism A New History Manchester University Press (2007)

This will give you a full academic account of the origins, progress and characters of the most interesting movement in British history :D

PS Another book that has a good section on Chartism (Pages 92-138) plus the general undercurrent of threatened revolution in Britain is:

Royle, E. Revolutionary Britannia? Manchester University Press (2000)  ;)

Thanks Lizzie - there is a lot of stuff around and Chartists.net is pretty middle ground stuff. Some American researchers regard these Chartists who fled UK extremely influential in the development of the US.
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 04 January 2013, 16:12:47
A good point to start is actually with talking to all the elderly members of your family.

Both sides of my family have interesting stories to tell.

Then once you have done that and documented itthen the real legwork begins.!

Albitz. Shame on you for not visiting your aunt. When she is dead it will be too late.

How true that is Varche! :y :y :y

I had the pleasure of spending a lot of time with my Great Aunt Kit in my childhood, then onto my adulthood.  In fact she died at the grand age of 95, when I was in my late thirties.  By talking to her I learnt so much about family, social, and general history from Victorian England onwards. She also regularly talked about one of her brothers, my Great Uncle Wally, who was killed at Ypres on the 30th July, 1917 during the Great War. What a privilege all that was, and it set me up for life to study and read history, coupled with the rest of our  families great interest in that subject.

Never turn that type of opportunity down! ;)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 04 January 2013, 16:23:01
hello to you all
 a quick question which is the best site to resurch your family tree
  many thanks kevin

It is not easy to select - I am using Ancestry  - it is expensive but my family has origins in the Chartist movement of 1830 to 1848 and one of them fled to America and was very influential in trade union building and anti slavery - hence I have upgraded to the international level. Also checking passenger lists on liners from UK to US.

All the sites catch you on the extras - I think all do free trials - Genes Reunited etc but once you have started to enter data it becomes an obsession. My advice would be to select a specific small number of persons in your tree and try the different systems on that small group but do not be tempted to go too early up all the paths that seems to open up or else you will have wasted a lot of time in re-entering data within the final choice of site that you make.


Now that would be very interesting research pscocoa!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :D

If you do not know about it already, I would highly recommend one book out of many on the subject;   Chase, M. Chartism A New History Manchester University Press (2007)

This will give you a full academic account of the origins, progress and characters of the most interesting movement in British history :D

PS Another book that has a good section on Chartism (Pages 92-138) plus the general undercurrent of threatened revolution in Britain is:

Royle, E. Revolutionary Britannia? Manchester University Press (2000)  ;)

Thanks Lizzie - there is a lot of stuff around and Chartists.net is pretty middle ground stuff. Some American researchers regard these Chartists who fled UK extremely influential in the development of the US.

Yes, they would as they recall the influence of Tom Paine who gave the American Revolution against King George III and the British great inspiration and leadership, as he did to the French Revolution of 1789.  Paine ideals spread back to England (against the philosophy of Edmund Burke, the father of Conservatism, who was against all these recent Revolutions and a break away from tradition British values) and although he died in 1809 before the Chartist movement started, his philosophy again gave momentum and initiative to it for another form of "revolution", although it never quiet came to that, for the working classes to gain rights generally, let alone a reform of Parliament and the voting rights of all British people.  Anyone who was a Chartist would easily fit in to the new United States of America and it's Constitution, and be rated as very worthy politically astute individuals.  ;)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: Keith ABS on 04 January 2013, 16:35:08
  My ex wifes grandfather researched his family tree. as he had an unusual surname it was easier for him, but it did take fourty years. he traced it all the way back to the viking times, when his ancestors came to Britain. just as well he had a job that gave him a lot of spare time to do the research, a headmaster.
Keith B
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Post by: albitz on 04 January 2013, 17:14:22
A good point to start is actually with talking to all the elderly members of your family.

Both sides of my family have interesting stories to tell.

Then once you have done that and documented itthen the real legwork begins.!

Albitz. Shame on you for not visiting your aunt. When she is dead it will be too late.

I didnt particularily like the woman when I was growing up,and dont see any reason why I should go out of my way to visit her just because she happened to be born to the same mother as my mother. As you might have guessed Im not really into the whole family thing,apart from my immediate family. ;)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: aaronjb on 04 January 2013, 19:53:52
My girlfriend's mom uses ancestry.com and findmypast.co.uk (although she thinks ancestry.com is better) to do extensive research into their family tree.. but, by the sound of it, it is a very labour and time intensive thing - not a case of signing up and everything being there for you; there's contacting people, searching, adding information, and so on, and apparently it's only really viable if you're willing to pay for the premium services.
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 January 2013, 20:49:10
I have a cousin who did our family tree and so far has traced it back to the early 18th century!  8) 

There dos'nt seem to be anyone of note in our family and mostly seem to have lived in the West Dorset/East Devon area and were mostly farmers and tradesmen. Although in about the 1840's there was a girl born in Wigan, even though earlier and later children were born in Darzet!  :-\  So there must have been a brief foray Ooop Norf for one adventurous lot!!  :)
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: ozzycat on 06 January 2013, 00:20:34
 :y :y thaks for all your help its been very usfull but ive found that ancestry.com very expencive ill have to find another way :y :y
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Post by: omega3000 on 06 January 2013, 09:43:50
:y :y thaks for all your help its been very usfull but ive found that ancestry.com very expencive ill have to find another way :y :y

I went on the free trial they advertised but it only takes you so far then they want you to pay  ::) How much are they charging for a full search  :-\
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Post by: pscocoa on 06 January 2013, 09:57:05
:y :y thaks for all your help its been very usfull but ive found that ancestry.com very expencive ill have to find another way :y :y

I went on the free trial they advertised but it only takes you so far then they want you to pay  ::) How much are they charging for a full search  :-\

You can buy a number of credits but it is disproportionately expensive and you will find you need to spend more. You have to make a decision as to whether you are serious about deleving into this and remember you can do as many family tree investigations as you like once you are an annual subscriber. For the UK only searches it may cost about £7 or 8 a month - looked at that way it may not be so bad but you have to use it!! You will find family info centred around the census records 1841 to 1911 great - going back further needs more time and searching all sorts of other records means you would use up credits very quickly as you hit blind allies etc
Title: Re: family tree
Post by: zirk on 06 January 2013, 09:59:05
From my Mothers side, London with Irish descendants, Fathers Side is Transylvanian but German National, His parents where Austrian and Hungarian, Step Father was Australian, Step Mothers is French, Half Brother was born in Moscow but now reside in Brussels.

Think the best Site for my research any further could be 'confused.com'   
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 06 January 2013, 11:11:54
From my Mothers side, London with Irish descendants, Fathers Side is Transylvanian but German National, His parents where Austrian and Hungarian, Step Father was Australian, Step Mothers is French, Half Brother was born in Moscow but now reside in Brussels.

Think the best Site for my research any further could be 'confused.com'

Yep, best of luck Zirk!  That is a challenge if ever there was ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Post by: zirk on 06 January 2013, 11:43:24
From my Mothers side, London with Irish descendants, Fathers Side is Transylvanian but German National, His parents where Austrian and Hungarian, Step Father was Australian, Step Mothers is French, Half Brother was born in Moscow but now reside in Brussels.

Think the best Site for my research any further could be 'confused.com'

Yep, best of luck Zirk!  That is a challenge if ever there was ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

Yep, But Me and my Sons are Essex Boy's born and bred, that will do for me.  ;)