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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: biggriffin on 05 January 2013, 08:29:37
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just aquired a 3.0L idler arm, will it fit/ the same as a 3.2L? :-\
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all the same, engine/spec/year :y
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just aquired a 3.0L idler arm, will it fit/ the same as a 3.2L? :-\
Yup
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Bonus thats £50 saved ;D
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How much did you pay and where? I need one too.
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Do t know where big got his, but here's a a thought.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110483.0
Be quick though.
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I got the arm off a friend who no- longer owns an omega,so i aquired his bits n pieces :y
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beware - there are at least two different lengths of arm, posibly three
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oh er can we have some part no's then please :-\
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All the same , 9195731. The only other one listed is 90305898 which is for Y25TD only so doesn't affect the UK.
Andy
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All the same , 9195731. The only other one listed is 90305898 which is for Y25TD only so doesn't affect the UK.
Andy
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Cheers :y
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Well well, I didn't know they did the idler arm bush separately. Why would they bother? ???
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/c7a4b234ab06ac98440a22812f0a10ae.jpg)
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Because for some peeps changing a bush seems a cheaper option than the whole arm.
eg some just change the upright bush in wishbones :-X
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Clearly, but that looks like a real bugger to press out, given the large flange on one end.
Cutting out then pressing in might be easier, if a press is available. Can't see that they'd sell many though.
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Should think with a press and the right tool would pop out. :-*
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Well well, I didn't know they did the idler arm bush separately. Why would they bother? ???
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/c7a4b234ab06ac98440a22812f0a10ae.jpg)
Where do they sell bushes?
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Should think with a press and the right tool would pop out. :-*
hammer and big socket, no big deal.
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Should think with a press and the right tool would pop out. :-*
hammer and big socket, no big deal.
Pfffffhoohooo, now that I wanna see. Video please...?
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Should think with a press and the right tool would pop out. :-*
hammer and big socket, no big deal.
Pfffffhoohooo, now that I wanna see. Video please...?
Don't suppose you've got an old arm lying around, Chris? I fancy seeing how easy (or not) it is to press out with the baby press in the garage for a giggle :)
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Should think with a press and the right tool would pop out. :-*
hammer and big socket, no big deal.
Pfffffhoohooo, now that I wanna see. Video please...?
Don't suppose you've got an old arm lying around, Chris? I fancy seeing how easy (or not) it is to press out with the baby press in the garage for a giggle :)
I have as it happens. And no, not playin :P
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I have as it happens. And no, not playin :P
Boo.. I figured it'd be much easier than trying to press the spindles out of the Jag front upgrights.. ;D
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Ok I lied. As i was in the garage anyway, i thought i'd get the bats out.
Car5car your not wrong. :y
Socket and a hammer to remove. I don't think it will be quite so easy to get the new one in without damage though.
Master?
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/EF46303C-22D8-476C-B51D-5D94C692E317-11353-00000BCD133B6E19.jpg)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/5C41C72E-5334-4A62-B7C7-9B1813C1DDD7-11353-00000BCD1A9083D3.jpg)
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Another new thing learnt :-[
:y
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One big socket supports wishbone, smaller one is on top of bush. Hit upper one by hammer.
Problem is to find sockets of right size for the job.
I used tool kit for ball joint replacement, they have many short pipes (cylinders) of different sizes. It was kit for ball joints, pressed in wishbones.
Grease new bush before installing.
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Freeze the insert and get the outer mega hot......will slide in with close to no force.
Submerge when fitted to cool and protect the bush
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Saves braking the ball joint if it can be heated and replaced on the car?
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Saves braking the ball joint if it can be heated and replaced on the car?
I would be concerned for the ball joint with the heat in the arm, guess it depends how much it needs heating to get it to fit
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Saves braking the ball joint if it can be heated and replaced on the car?
I would be concerned for the ball joint with the heat in the arm, guess it depends how much it needs heating to get it to fit
...and get the old one out. :-\
hmmm, I guess it depends how much the bush is, if its worth bothering with at all.
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New idler arm turned up here today, shipped direct from ZF... ...so I guess AGP don't always hold stock.
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A quick Google of the part number suggests it to be about twenty quid.
Which is less than half the price of the complete arm. I would have been tempted by that and a couple of minutes with the press.
I can't imagine attempting to change the bush with it on the car, just to avoid splitting a ball joint.
When I changed the idler on my 525, the bush was £10, a pattern arm £14, and a Lemforder arm £18. At those prices, it simply wasn't worth the effort, and I bought the decent arm.
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Anything lemforder I've ordered from them has come from zf iirc
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A quick Google of the part number suggests it to be about twenty quid.
Which is less than half the price of the complete arm. I would have been tempted by that and a couple of minutes with the press.
I can't imagine attempting to change the bush with it on the car, just to avoid splitting a ball joint.
When I changed the idler on my 525, the bush was £10, a pattern arm £14, and a Lemforder arm £18. At those prices, it simply wasn't worth the effort, and I bought the decent arm.
i guess it depends what tools are available too. I've seen some people struggle with some properly seized ball joints.
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New idler arm turned up here today, shipped direct from ZF... ...so I guess AGP don't always hold stock.
how much did you pay?
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This much probably?
http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_1220825-Steering-idler-arm-Original-equipment-Lemforder-14927-01-9195731.html
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This much probably?
http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/prod_1220825-Steering-idler-arm-Original-equipment-Lemforder-14927-01-9195731.html
Yup, with 10% offer
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Do t know where big got his, but here's a a thought.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=110483.0
Be quick though.
...as mentioned here. :)
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Does new idler arm move up and down, when you move it by hand?
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Does new idler arm move up and down, when you move it by hand?
Nope... If yours moves it's knackered ;)
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There should be ZERO vertical play. Very slight flex probably won't cause much Argo though.