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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 05 January 2013, 10:50:09
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20914685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20914685)
Call me old-fashioned, but I don't believe any government has the right to legislate on food ingredients.* It is up to the individual how they should deal with their weight - if they feel they have a problem, that is. As for kids, different metabolic rates, genetic factors and hormonal issues, all have a bearing.
I must say, that i do not see an epidemic of blobbies around these days. Indeed, I recall there were fat kids around when I was a lad - mind you, there were others that would make stick insects weep with jealousy.
At the end of the day, politicians need to concentrate on making the economy better and reducing our deficit, instead of faffing around trying to legislate every aspect of our personal lives.
Perhaps it's because they are clueless about complex matters like the economy that they feel the need to poke around in social issues in a feeble attempt to justify their existence. ::) ::)
Nick
Vote UKIP!
*Unless proven toxic/harmful, of course. Wouldn't want arsenic in my custard powder. ;)
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I am in no doubt that a great many foods contain way too much fat, sugar, salt etc. Why ? Because they are cheap, profitable, and generally make things taste better. People buy them.
But this and the obesity problem is not new, its been around for some years now. So why didn't Labour do something when they were in power ? And exactly how does a government tell for example Krispy Kreme to make their doughnuts low calorie ?
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It just shows how desperate Labour are to start producing some realistic policies for 2015.
So far they have been solely lacking in these, just at a time when woolly Cameron is struggling with all kinds of wacky going on's! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I do not want Labour back! What we require is a strong, determined, leader full of real character.
Anyone seen an example so far?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Yes. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kltLwKtQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs
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VOTE UKIP :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Yes. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kltLwKtQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs
But Albitz and Cleggy he is not an all rounder. :P If he could prove he is and had sound new policies, then maybe I would be convinced. But not quite yet ;)
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But Albitz and Cleggy he is not an all rounder. :P If he could prove he is and had sound new policies, then maybe I would be convinced. But not quite yet ;)
I agree with Lizzie. Although I agree with many, but not all, of his views on Europe, it takes very much more to run a country.
To be honest if there was a General Election tomorrow, I really don't know who I would want to win. It would be a case of choosing the best of a very bad bunch. It would certainly not be Labour despite Millibands attempts to "re-brand", I'm afraid the legacy of Blair_Brown will live on for a very long time yet >:(
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That is the problem. Labour borrows money they haven't got to give to the not so well off. Conservatives take money off the poor to give to the well off(under the guise of job/wealth creation) and sell or give away the family silver( and I remember McRuin doing that with the gold too).,
At the end of the day , they are all just clueless egotist custodians of a runaway bankrupt ship.
How much worse could it be to give another party (UKIP) a go? After all nowadays there is very little difference really between New Labour and the former Conservatives. Just what will Britain look like with another million penniless Bulgarians and Rumanians milking the UK welfare system in 12 monthstime.
If somebody wants some ideas here are a few.
1. Take Britain to the European court of human rights for not paying adequate state pensions (the lowest in Europe). The outcome would probably be all the other member states reducing theirs to the UK level thus improving EU efficiency but you never know.
2. An immigrant quota based on current populatrion density. So densely populated countries like England and the Netherlands could take say 100,000 net per year whilst France, Germany could take a million net per year.
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Yes. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kltLwKtQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs
But Albitz and Cleggy he is not an all rounder. :P If he could prove he is and had sound new policies, then maybe I would be convinced. But not quite yet ;)
As if we have an alternative ??? UKIP does have other policies and is not a one policy party. At least N.F has worked for a living and is in the real world. :) :)
The European Elections next year will be interesting, VOTE UKIP :y :y and put a bomb under Camoron's arse :y :y
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It just shows how desperate Labour are to start producing some realistic policies for 2015.
So far they have been solely lacking in these, just at a time when woolly Cameron is struggling with all kinds of wacky going on's! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I do not want Labour back! What we require is a strong, determined, leader full of real character.
Anyone seen an example so far?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
When CaMoron loses in 2015, Boris will take over as leader of the Labour Lite party. He plays up to his buffoon image, like Reagan did as the opposition then underestimate what is actually happening and in Reagan's words, this makes it much easier to get done what you want to do. Boris has got a reputation for getting things done.
Nigel Farage is potentially a good leader, who has a very good grasp of economics from where he worked in the City, unlike CaMoron or Osborne. Osborne's only job experience is booking the deceased on to a NHS database and refolding towels in Selfridges, so no surprise that as Chancellor he is useless. Over the next two years Farage needs to start pushing UKIPs other very sound policies and Farage need to come across as more statesman like. The Libs/Lab/Cons all spend large sums using PR consultants to groom their main politicians image hence the Brown Grin. UKIP need to do the same to create a more statesman like Farage where to many people he comes across as a bit too smug.
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When CaMoron loses in 2015, Boris will take over as leader of the Labour Lite party. He plays up to his buffoon image, like Reagan did as the opposition then underestimate what is actually happening and in Reagan's words, this makes it much easier to get done what you want to do. Boris has got a reputation for getting things done.
Nigel Farage is potentially a good leader, who has a very good grasp of economics from where he worked in the City, unlike CaMoron or Osborne. Osborne's only job experience is booking the deceased on to a NHS database and refolding towels in Selfridges, so no surprise that as Chancellor he is useless. Over the next two years Farage needs to start pushing UKIPs other very sound policies and Farage need to come across as more statesman like. The Libs/Lab/Cons all spend large sums using PR consultants to groom their main politicians image hence the Brown Grin. UKIP need to do the same to create a more statesman like Farage where to many people he comes across as a bit too smug.
Yep, I go along with all of that
Ah yes the "Brown Grin" . . . it always reminded me of The Joker out of Batman
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When CaMoron loses in 2015, Boris will take over as leader of the Labour Lite party. He plays up to his buffoon image, like Reagan did as the opposition then underestimate what is actually happening and in Reagan's words, this makes it much easier to get done what you want to do. Boris has got a reputation for getting things done.
Nigel Farage is potentially a good leader, who has a very good grasp of economics from where he worked in the City, unlike CaMoron or Osborne. Osborne's only job experience is booking the deceased on to a NHS database and refolding towels in Selfridges, so no surprise that as Chancellor he is useless. Over the next two years Farage needs to start pushing UKIPs other very sound policies and Farage need to come across as more statesman like. The Libs/Lab/Cons all spend large sums using PR consultants to groom their main politicians image hence the Brown Grin. UKIP need to do the same to create a more statesman like Farage where to many people he comes across as a bit too smug.
Yep, I go along with all of that
Ah yes the "Brown Grin" . . . it always reminded me of The Joker out of Batman
+1 :y :y
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Here ya go. :y
http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies
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Here ya go. :y
http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies
Very interesting, and still reading. ;)
So far there seems to be a lack of describing how anything is going to be funded, along with the establishment of more "local" administration, but at what cost.
It is easy to write what you would like to do, but what are the true practicalities?
So still undecided - so far! ;D ;D ;)
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Here ya go. :y
http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies
Very interesting, and still reading. ;)
So far there seems to be a lack of describing how anything is going to be funded, along with the establishment of more "local" administration, but at what cost.
It is easy to write what you would like to do, but what are the true practicalities?
So still undecided - so far! ;D ;D ;)
Try not spending £50 million a day on the EU, and £15 billion on foreign aid for starters :y :y
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Nickbat take your blood pressure tablets and then read the DT version.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html)
This country cannot afford current Government expenditure to the sum of about £250bn per year. Until government spending is brought under control this country will carry on going steadily bankrupt with a £125bn deficit per year. By 2015 our debts will have gone up from 85% to 100% of GDP, once they are above 90% you are getting into default territory. The UK will lose its AAA rating this year and now QE has stopped Gilt prices are dropping, so our Gilt interest rates are now higher than that basket case economy France.
This may be the start of our own Sterling crisis or we maybe able to kick the can as far as 2017-18, but it is not a question of if but when. The Government's response will be more QE to fund the deficit, which will fuel inflation, so our drop in real wages which is already at an average of 13.2% since 2007 will accelerate. Those on fixed incomes or pensions will face a very bleak future.
Heavy energy intensive industry like steel making, oil refining, cement making, sugar making will be moving increasingly off-shore to the US, China etc from April when the most onerous carbon taxes in the world are imposed upon UK industry to de-industrialise de-carbon the country. This will help extend our economic depression through loss of revenue to the UK, smaller taxes revenues, increased unemployment, benefits payments, and Government deficits, but apparently such sacrificial offerings make the high priests of the yogurt knitting, tree hugging green religion very happy. Apparently such regular sacrifices and the building of vast numbers of Government subsidized religious icons called wind power generators, keeps one of their gods called 'Polar Bear' happy. Now if people want to practice such religions that is up to them, but I strongly object to it being subsidized by my taxes and peoples ability to earn a living being destroyed. :( :( :( :(
It is only when there is a real review of Government spending and real Government cuts, followed by tax cuts, will the UK start to get out of its current economic mess.
We need a real spending review and a serious debate on what public services should do within a £500bn or less capped budget. With all of the main three parties currently looking and expanding spending and the building of further public sector empires, this country is doomed economically. :( :( :( :(
The current round of political food and booze pronouncements, on telling us what we must or mustn't eat or drink, has as much relevance to our current situation as that mad cow Botox faced president has on harping on about the Falklands and that saving the Argentinean economy from collapse. ::) :o :o :o :o
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The current round of political food and booze pronouncements, on telling us what we must or mustn't eat or drink, has as much relevance to our current situation as that mad cow Botox faced president has on harping on about the Falklands and that saving the Argentinean economy from collapse. ::) :o :o :o :o
PMSL Rods. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Spot on with your satirical comments. :y :y :y :y :y
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mad cow Botox faced president
A compliment ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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capitalists .. no surprise they abuse even our taste by selling high sugar and salt foods.. ;D
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capitalists .. no surprise they abuse even our taste by selling high sugar and salt foods.. ;D
In a capitalist state, you have a choice whether or not to buy food which is high in sugar and/or salt. :y
In a socialist state, you get what you're given. :(
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capitalists .. no surprise they abuse even our taste by selling high sugar and salt foods.. ;D
In a capitalist state, you have a choice whether or not to buy food which is high in sugar and/or salt. :y
In a socialist state, you get what you're given. :(
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in a capitalist state they sell you the same ready crap food at different prices.. in a socialist state you can find neither sugar nor fast food ;D (ps: this was before capitalism invaded those countries)
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Ah, but how many obese politicians and other 'advisors' are there? Seems to me that those who would try to incite others to lose weight are generally very overweight or even obese or worse themselves!
I would not mind so much if those giving the advice were slim and healthy or even fractionally overweight but to have it it stuck to you by an elephantine lump is ridiculous. That is what happened to me on the last few visits to the clinic I attend. Let those who give the advice lead by example and that does not mean a single person it means the whole organisation or political party >:(
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Nickbat take your blood pressure tablets and then read the DT version.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html)
This country cannot afford current Government expenditure to the sum of about £250bn per year. Until government spending is brought under control this country will carry on going steadily bankrupt with a £125bn deficit per year. By 2015 our debts will have gone up from 85% to 100% of GDP, once they are above 90% you are getting into default territory. The UK will lose its AAA rating this year and now QE has stopped Gilt prices are dropping, so our Gilt interest rates are now higher than that basket case economy France.
This may be the start of our own Sterling crisis or we maybe able to kick the can as far as 2017-18, but it is not a question of if but when. The Government's response will be more QE to fund the deficit, which will fuel inflation, so our drop in real wages which is already at an average of 13.2% since 2007 will accelerate. Those on fixed incomes or pensions will face a very bleak future.
Heavy energy intensive industry like steel making, oil refining, cement making, sugar making will be moving increasingly off-shore to the US, China etc from April when the most onerous carbon taxes in the world are imposed upon UK industry to de-industrialise de-carbon the country. This will help extend our economic depression through loss of revenue to the UK, smaller taxes revenues, increased unemployment, benefits payments, and Government deficits, but apparently such sacrificial offerings make the high priests of the yogurt knitting, tree hugging green religion very happy. Apparently such regular sacrifices and the building of vast numbers of Government subsidized religious icons called wind power generators, keeps one of their gods called 'Polar Bear' happy. Now if people want to practice such religions that is up to them, but I strongly object to it being subsidized by my taxes and peoples ability to earn a living being destroyed. :( :( :( :(
It is only when there is a real review of Government spending and real Government cuts, followed by tax cuts, will the UK start to get out of its current economic mess.
We need a real spending review and a serious debate on what public services should do within a £500bn or less capped budget. With all of the main three parties currently looking and expanding spending and the building of further public sector empires, this country is doomed economically. :( :( :( :(
The current round of political food and booze pronouncements, on telling us what we must or mustn't eat or drink, has as much relevance to our current situation as that mad cow Botox faced president has on harping on about the Falklands and that saving the Argentinean economy from collapse. ::) :o :o :o :o
If I may say so Rod2 an excellent summary of the situation, couple with identification of what is required to transpire if we are to escape complete ruination. :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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I dont know what made you think that Labour ever got off the Nanny state band wagon after inventing it.
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I dont know what made you think that Labour ever got off the Nanny state band wagon after inventing it.
A very good and true point! :y :y
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Nickbat take your blood pressure tablets and then read the DT version.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html)
This country cannot afford current Government expenditure to the sum of about £250bn per year. Until government spending is brought under control this country will carry on going steadily bankrupt with a £125bn deficit per year. By 2015 our debts will have gone up from 85% to 100% of GDP, once they are above 90% you are getting into default territory. The UK will lose its AAA rating this year and now QE has stopped Gilt prices are dropping, so our Gilt interest rates are now higher than that basket case economy France.
This may be the start of our own Sterling crisis or we maybe able to kick the can as far as 2017-18, but it is not a question of if but when. The Government's response will be more QE to fund the deficit, which will fuel inflation, so our drop in real wages which is already at an average of 13.2% since 2007 will accelerate. Those on fixed incomes or pensions will face a very bleak future.
Heavy energy intensive industry like steel making, oil refining, cement making, sugar making will be moving increasingly off-shore to the US, China etc from April when the most onerous carbon taxes in the world are imposed upon UK industry to de-industrialise de-carbon the country. This will help extend our economic depression through loss of revenue to the UK, smaller taxes revenues, increased unemployment, benefits payments, and Government deficits, but apparently such sacrificial offerings make the high priests of the yogurt knitting, tree hugging green religion very happy. Apparently such regular sacrifices and the building of vast numbers of Government subsidized religious icons called wind power generators, keeps one of their gods called 'Polar Bear' happy. Now if people want to practice such religions that is up to them, but I strongly object to it being subsidized by my taxes and peoples ability to earn a living being destroyed. :( :( :( :(
It is only when there is a real review of Government spending and real Government cuts, followed by tax cuts, will the UK start to get out of its current economic mess.
We need a real spending review and a serious debate on what public services should do within a £500bn or less capped budget. With all of the main three parties currently looking and expanding spending and the building of further public sector empires, this country is doomed economically. :( :( :( :(
The current round of political food and booze pronouncements, on telling us what we must or mustn't eat or drink, has as much relevance to our current situation as that mad cow Botox faced president has on harping on about the Falklands and that saving the Argentinean economy from collapse. ::) :o :o :o :o
That won't come from any of our self serving politicians and parties. It will ONLY come from Brussels after Britain unravels and needs a bail out. At that time one of the conditions of course will be adopting the Euro. Less than five years time. At least they will install a puppet leader and our elected officials can then busy themselves with the minutae. fat in food, salt in food, getting hospitals to actually do their job properly. It might actually be a good thing.......... ;D ;D ;D