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Title: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: jonnycool on 09 January 2013, 17:24:23
I heard this on the radio this afternoon - now, some might say that Piers, being British and a bit of a smug git, isn't really the ideal person to be heading a campaign against the gun laws in America, but he invited Alex Jones, who started a petition to get Piers deported for his views, to debate the issue on his show. Alex, a radio host and owner of fifty guns, went on a complete and utter lunatic rant against him on his show. Have a look at the video, to see why America will never change....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWQPZ-taYBs
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 January 2013, 17:34:54
That is amazing! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

1776................join the Republic..................do not try and take our gun laws away......etc, etc.

What is that man on?!  Does he not know that the British have nothing to do with gun laws in the USA, or how their Republic decides on everything! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Perhaps we should send in the Redcoats.......God Save King George!.............oh my God now I am slipping back in time!

The bloke is obviously a gun totting nutter.

As you correctly said Jonny, America will never give up their guns! :( :( :(
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 January 2013, 17:38:56
Only in America. :-\
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: b4ndit on 09 January 2013, 17:47:49
Typical gun tottin yank :o
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Varche on 09 January 2013, 17:55:09
Quick get out the heart pills OR close the thread before cem sees it!!



 
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 January 2013, 17:56:07
Quick get out the heart pills OR close the thread before cem sees it!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: STMO123 on 09 January 2013, 18:05:52
I've always said that we shouldn't worry too much about Iran, Pakistan and all the other bogey men that our govt uses to frighten us. Its the good old US that poses the greatest threat to stability.
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: omega3000 on 09 January 2013, 18:26:56
I think he should take up the offer in the boxing ring , would be far more entertaining  ;D What an obnoxious little scrote  ::)
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: albitz on 09 January 2013, 18:41:19
They are both obnoxious.Shoot the pair of them. :D ;D
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2013, 20:10:18
...., but he invited Alex Jones, ....

Is that why she's not been on the One Show this week?  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 January 2013, 21:52:14
So a nutter like that is allowed to have 50 guns!!!!  :o  Has he got a private army or something??  :-\  :(
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: mantahatch on 09 January 2013, 21:58:58
I've always said that we shouldn't worry too much about Iran, Pakistan and all the other bogey men that our govt uses to frighten us. Its the good old US that poses the greatest threat to stability.

Oh goodness, I agree with you again. I must be going mad.
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: geoffr70 on 10 January 2013, 00:46:31
Most people would be rather annoyed, if a foreigner, a bloody arrogant one at that, came to their country and started trying to tell them how to live and what laws to have and not to have.

It is for a nation's people to decide the rules that govern them, not anyone else. Even regardless of how 'wrong' certain rules are perceived to be.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just another preacher, and there's plenty of them about.
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2013, 01:24:34
I think that if you stopped average Joe Americans shooting bears, deer and whatever other wildlife they want to then they'd go nuts and probably start a civil war (an ironic thought ;)) However, I do respect the Americans. They may be brash, outspoken and far too loud but at least they fight for what they want. In this country we get slapped in the face by the government a lot and by the justice system and the £1.30 fuel costs and the billions to the EU and the price of cod. The Americans would probably cal us ''lil bitches''.

As for this interview there's no point. Piers was simply trying to lure him down his path and that guy clearly wasn't going to be reeled in. Both of them are utter morons.
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 January 2013, 07:09:14
50 guns eh ?
Why some on here have 3 cars  :o :o

How dare they  ::)

Anyway, whats it got to do with the UK anyway ?
Morgan is nothing more them a arrogent little to$$er anyway who should have his passport ripped up and band from ever returning to these shores.

I really believe its about time we learnt to keep our mouths shut and our noses out of other cultures.
What the yanks do on there shores is there business and nobody elses.

Sad as it was, did anybody here really lose any sleep over what happened at that school or did we use it just as a excuse to have a good old whinge and whine  :(
Now, if it happened in my street, city or country then yes i'd be bothered but 3000 miles away across the ocean ............. no, I couldn't care less  ;)
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2013, 07:45:42
50 guns eh ?
Why some on here have 3 cars  :o :o

How dare they  ::)

Anyway, whats it got to do with the UK anyway ?
Morgan is nothing more them a arrogent little to$$er anyway who should have his passport ripped up and band from ever returning to these shores.

I really believe its about time we learnt to keep our mouths shut and our noses out of other cultures.
What the yanks do on there shores is there business and nobody elses.

Sad as it was, did anybody here really lose any sleep over what happened at that school or did we use it just as a excuse to have a good old whinge and whine  :(
Now, if it happened in my street, city or country then yes i'd be bothered but 3000 miles away across the ocean ............. no, I couldn't care less  ;)

+1  :)
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: jonnycool on 10 January 2013, 08:28:23
Don't care? Let's hope you or your family never go there on holiday then, or stray outside the safe places when in Florida, or Miami for example. I've got members of my family that have just left to go there working for a year and it concerns me that whenever anything goes wrong in the USA the first thing they reach for is a firearm of some sort  :(
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 January 2013, 08:58:14
Don't care? Let's hope you or your family never go there on holiday then, or stray outside the safe places when in Florida, or Miami for example. I've got members of my family that have just left to go there working for a year and it concerns me that whenever anything goes wrong in the USA the first thing they reach for is a firearm of some sort  :(


If me or my family go anywhere, we way up the pro's and con's of where we are going.
If I went across to the states, I wouldn't just look at the costs, i'd look at the whole picture and then make my choices.

If you go away on holiday, you can either go along with the tour guide and see what they want you to see or you get off the beaten track and see what its really like and take the risks asociated with it.

Of course I don't wish harm on anybody but you need to go into any situation with your eyes wide open.  Hopefully, thats what your family have done and I wish them all the luck in the world on there adventure.

Imo, the majority of folks over there are great and bear no resemblence to the NRA muppets that are getting all the airtime at the moment  :)

The thing is, over here the advrage nutter will knife you or smack you over the head with a piece of 4x2 but over there, they run around with a M16 assault rifle  :(

At the end of the day, there culture and business is exactly that and we have no right to stick out noses in  :)
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: scimmy_man on 10 January 2013, 10:16:20
I have been to america a few time, prefering the non tourist areas,, the people are generally friendly and interested in you,
most of them never travel more than a few miles from home in their life,
friend of mine handed me an AK47 when we met, he knew I was a shooter,


btw I have 6 guns, each for a different purpose, bit like a golfer has several golf bats for diferent uses.
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 January 2013, 10:33:31
I don't think that by discussing the US gun laws here we are 'sticking our noses in'.  ::) It's a car forum and I doubt it will cause a diplomatic incident!  I think that we can and should be able to discuss anything from any country.  :)

Piers Morgan is just doing what he is paid handsomely to do, and lets face it he is good at playing devil's advocate.  ;) I've no doubt that his American bosses at CNN are right behind him and are rubbing their hands with glee at the increased viewing figures and advertising revenue that Morgan's interview with Alex Jones has generated.  ::)

An official from the US State Department yesterday expressed concern about a possible referendum regarding Britain's relationship with the EU.  Now THAT'S sticking their nose in!!!  >:(
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 January 2013, 11:56:07
Don't care? Let's hope you or your family never go there on holiday then, or stray outside the safe places when in Florida, or Miami for example. I've got members of my family that have just left to go there working for a year and it concerns me that whenever anything goes wrong in the USA the first thing they reach for is a firearm of some sort  :(

How true Jonny! :y :y

On our very first holiday in the USA we managed (quite a story in itself!) to find ourselves standing in a hotel courtesy bus queue outside JFK airport in  New York.  It was very humid, the buses were running very late, and very full, due to a severe rainstorm and flooding of some roads.

A bus turned up, and a group of white Yanks at the front of the queue expected to board this already overloaded bus.  A black guy, who was supervising the loading of these buses said to the group of guys they couldn't board.  One of this group then started to become very aggitated, and before we knew it this guy said to the black guy "I will get onto that bus you f...king n....r! I will f..king shoot you n....r if I don't!", and promptly produced a hand gun.  My ex grabbed all of us together and wisely said let's just get out of the way; things are getting nasty!

To cut a long story short the white guy and the rest got on the bus!

Now I love America, and all the American friends and those that I have met over decades.  In most States you are not aware of the gun culture, and certainly my friends (ex-USAF) did not own guns, and did not agree with them.  But they warned us that there was a danger of them being used in certain situations, such as the one we encountered in New York.  So, yes American's owning guns may be none of our British business, but when you spend time in the States you may decide it is a concern and wish it wasn't.
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 January 2013, 13:07:32
An official from the US State Department yesterday expressed concern about a possible referendum regarding Britain's relationship with the EU.  Now THAT'S sticking their nose in!!!  >:(

Yep, dead right. :y

It's not as if they are just doing it for our own good. The fact is that the main reason for their concern is that they are worried they may lose their main ally in Europe. ::)
Title: Re: The 'debate' between Alex Jones and Piers Morgan
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 January 2013, 13:41:15
An official from the US State Department yesterday expressed concern about a possible referendum regarding Britain's relationship with the EU.  Now THAT'S sticking their nose in!!!  >:(

Yep, dead right. :y

It's not as if they are just doing it for our own good. The fact is that the main reason for their concern is that they are worried they may lose their main ally in Europe. ::)


This is a very important move by the USA.  It is certainly "sticking their nose into British business"!

It will definitely place extreme political pressure on the whole of Westminster.  Our Government should never bow to pressure from external political powers, but we do need to work with the States.  If you were Cameron / Clegg what would you do?

Perhaps go on an American chat show and rant about the independence of GB and 1776 was a long time ago?! ;D ;D ;)