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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 10 January 2013, 21:02:49
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He is now hinting that the UK could start arming the Libyan rebels.
http://playpolitical.typepad.com/uk_conservative/2013/01/william-hague-says-that-the-uk-could-start-arming-syrian-rebels.html (http://playpolitical.typepad.com/uk_conservative/2013/01/william-hague-says-that-the-uk-could-start-arming-syrian-rebels.html)
WTF? :o :o
Let's stay well clear of all this. And how do we know that the rebels will treat people any better than Assad? I've heard all sorts of gruesome things about the rebels.
Does he just fancy himself on the world stage?
Hague's as bad as Cameron. >:( >:( >:(
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Syrian rebels Nick!! :) The Libyan rebels are now playing at being the Libyan Government! ::)
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Ah fook it. Arm them all to the teeth! :D
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Syrian rebels Nick!! :) The Libyan rebels are now playing at being the Libyan Government! ::)
Whoops, yes Syrian rebels of course. My bad. :-[
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The real issue is which rebels to arm, not if to arm.
There are 2 distinct groupings:
- 1. The more common rebel, fighting for freedom from the regime, unorganised, untrained, very passionate.
- 2. And these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front)
Trust me, out of all 3 players you want No 1 to win. There may only be 3 poo sandwiches on offer but you have to eat one.....
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The real issue is which rebels to arm, not if to arm.
There are 2 distinct groupings:
- 1. The more common rebel, fighting for freedom from the regime, unorganised, untrained, very passionate.
- 2. And these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front)
Trust me, out of all 3 players you want No 1 to win. There may only be 3 poo sandwiches on offer but you have to eat one.....
No, we should arm NONE of them.
I have suspicions that the rebels are no better - and possibly worse - than the the Assad administration which, for all the alleged ills propounded by the media, is clearly supported by many Syrians. I say let the Syrians sort it out. Our track record for helping insurgents in the Arab Spring is far from exemplary. How many minority Christians have been persecuted (and worse) by these ever-so-nice liberal rebels.
Wake up and smell the coffee. ;)
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oh, I looooove coffee :D :D
The question is who do you want to win? Assad? The extremist islamists who make the wahabis look normal or the rebels?
All have commited crimes but who do you want to govern after the conflict is over? You have to choose one. If you do nothing then don't cry when the extremists gain power.
Like I said, it's a big poo sandwich :-\
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oh, I looooove coffee :D :D
The question is who do you want to win? Assad? The extremist islamists who make the wahabis look normal or the rebels?
All have commited crimes but who do you want to govern after the conflict is over? You have to choose one. If you do nothing then don't cry when the extremists gain power.
Like I said, it's a big poo sandwich :-\
Pardon my cynicism, Guffer, but (if reports over the last few years are true) we've had difficulty getting the right equipment to Tommy in Afghanistan, yet we can easily find the resources to equip some unknown teen rebels in their Toyota pick-ups in Syria. ::)
Maybe I'm just getting too old to understand. :-\
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Maybe I'm just getting too old to understand. :-\
Never mind Nick, there are a lot of confused old men around here.... :P :)
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I am one of them. Gaza.
WTF
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None of our business what goes on in Syria, when will muppets like Hague ( are you surprised he was bullied at school ;D ;D) learn that we should pick up the pieces when it is all over not interfer in the middle east. :( :(
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Any military or general aid moves towards supporting the "rebels", or more like opposition, MUST be undertaken by the UN only.
I agree Nick, there is no way the UK should become directly involved.
Any action even by the UN must also have the support of Russia and China, or the West risks retaliation of one kind or another. The worst result of that I do not want to think about!! :o :o :o
No Middle Eastern country is worth the risk. Let fellow Arabs deal with it! ;) ;)
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No vodka or fried rice. :o
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No vodka or fried rice. :o
trust you! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Never mind, when all the oil has gone we can build a big wall round all of them and forget they excist :y
With a bit of luck, they will wipe out each other without too much collateral damage to us ;)
As for this lot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front
I'm suprised that Tony Bliar didn't invite them over here with the promise of a nice british passport on the understanding that they vote Labour at every election >:(
Well he did invite just about everybody else in :D
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Afghanistan is being properly resourced, there were issues in the early days which have been resolved. As someone who has been there I can tell you it is top-notch and second to none.
Maybe I wasn't making sense in my earlier posts - basicall there are 3 poo sandwiches in front of you and you have to eat one. You are obviously going to choose the smallest and most paletable even though it is a poo sandwich at the end of the day.
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Right then, a choice of sweetcorn, peanuts or worms :-\