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Title: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 17 January 2013, 09:48:51
Went to a rolling road last night and the omega ran 137bhp.. i always thought the car was a bit slow but just assumed.. heavy car plus 19" alloys.

they are suppose to be 207bhp standard? correct me if im wrong. so why the hell would it be this slow ha. the guy i bought it off said it was always as fast as it is now... the headgasket went and everything was rebuilt and the timing all done with the proper kit etc and it still hasnt got any faster.

so my thoughts are : cats blocked? would this cause 70bhp loss?
egr?
ill get the timing re checked by someone else..
not sure what else?!

it also hunts a bit on idle but not sure if thats related?

Thanks... any suggestions that can help or that i can take a look at much appreciated. :y
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: aaronjb on 17 January 2013, 10:27:04
Was the 137hp at the wheels or the flywheel? Automatic transmission on your car or manual?
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 17 January 2013, 11:03:20
137 was at the flywheel but then vauxhaulls quoted 207 is also at the fly?

and its a manual :)

it just feels a bit flat... it struggled on the dyno near the top end of the rev range
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: aaronjb on 17 January 2013, 11:08:39
Just checking  :y You may or may not know but trying to get a figure from an automatic on a rolling road is a bit of a guessing game (then again, so is approximating flywheel figures from wheel figures - but they usually air on the side of optimism rather than pessimism like yours!)

Are your multirams working (though I thought that made it flat at the bottom, not the top)?
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 17 January 2013, 11:11:50
ok.... what are they haha .

im mechanically minded and can tell you alot about turbo VAG engines and most jap engines.. but the only vauxhall iv fiddled with was a 2.2 diesel so its all a bit new ha.
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: aaronjb on 17 January 2013, 11:18:41
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90513.0

Technical info there - without a Tech2 or diagnostic system that can actuate the valves 'at will' then the test procedure is to rev the car (hard) via the throttle cable (lucky you, DBW on later cars makes that hard ;D) while watching the valves to ensure they move..
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 17 January 2013, 11:24:52
ahhhhh... right well i know the front one works becuase i was wandering what the hell it was last night... not sure about the other but ill give them a check tonight :)
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 January 2013, 12:15:36
Fuel filter ok.
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 17 January 2013, 12:23:18
thats one thing im not sure has been done... they in the bay on these or under the car?
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 January 2013, 12:39:57
Under the rear drivers side just behind the diff ;)
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 17 January 2013, 13:58:36
thank you... ill get me one of them too ha
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andy89 on 17 January 2013, 17:10:16
If you got 137 at the flywheel how much did you get at the wheels?  :P
Any faultcodes?
Have you got the dyno graph?

I ran my car this fall and got just under 200 at the hubs (though with some modifications)
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: feeutfo on 17 January 2013, 17:55:34
Blocked exhaust? What's fitted?
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: TheBoy on 17 January 2013, 18:25:26
Any silly aftermarket air filters?
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 January 2013, 19:34:09
I don't suppose they had a probe in the exhaust at the rolling road? Be interesting to see what the AFR was doing during the run.
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: serek on 17 January 2013, 22:12:59
did you had any work done on engine?
how long you have this car for
maybe someone fit 2.5 v6
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: humbucker on 17 January 2013, 22:21:50
did you had any work done on engine?
how long you have this car for
maybe someone fit 2.5 v6

Dunno, 2.5 is still good for 170bhp + ?  :-\ Unless it's from Dundee then it's 600bhp
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: serek on 17 January 2013, 22:24:05
did you had any work done on engine?
how long you have this car for
maybe someone fit 2.5 v6

Dunno, 2.5 is still good for 170bhp + ?  :-\ Unless it's from Dundee then it's 600bhp
but if multiram not working then will be about right

600bhp @ 2K rpm ::)
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: humbucker on 17 January 2013, 22:25:30
did you had any work done on engine?
how long you have this car for
maybe someone fit 2.5 v6

Dunno, 2.5 is still good for 170bhp + ?  :-\ Unless it's from Dundee then it's 600bhp
but if multiram not working then will be about right

600bhp @ 2K rpm ::)

in reverse
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: serek on 17 January 2013, 22:29:27
did you had any work done on engine?
how long you have this car for
maybe someone fit 2.5 v6

Dunno, 2.5 is still good for 170bhp + ?  :-\ Unless it's from Dundee then it's 600bhp
but if multiram not working then will be about right

600bhp @ 2K rpm ::)

in reverse
up hill ;D
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: humbucker on 17 January 2013, 23:11:00
did you had any work done on engine?
how long you have this car for
maybe someone fit 2.5 v6

Dunno, 2.5 is still good for 170bhp + ?  :-\ Unless it's from Dundee then it's 600bhp
but if multiram not working then will be about right

600bhp @ 2K rpm ::)

in reverse
up hill ;D

Handbrake on, ignition in off position
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: 2woody on 20 January 2013, 23:15:57
yes - was thinking multiram
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 23 January 2013, 08:28:40
there is a big silly air filter on it.... do they not like them?!?! was trying to find a standard air box
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: albitz on 23 January 2013, 08:44:55
Standard induction setup will always work best.I would advise to revert to that and see how it goes. :y
It might be worth posting a pic of what you have at the moment. ;)
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 January 2013, 08:58:20
Where in Rugby are you (I work on Boughton Road), might be able to take a quick look one evening
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Elite Pete on 23 January 2013, 09:01:08
Where in Rugby are you (I work on Boughton Road), might be able to take a quick look one evening

Now there's an offer. There's nothing Mark doesn't know about Omegas :y
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 23 January 2013, 09:40:33
Where in Rugby are you (I work on Boughton Road), might be able to take a quick look one evening

Now there's an offer. There's nothing Mark doesn't know about Omegas :y

YAY ha. i live in hillmorton mate. Fisher Ave let me know and ill make myself availible!
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 January 2013, 09:46:03
Ok, will drop you a PM once the snow has gone  :y
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: Andyfloss on 23 January 2013, 09:54:41
Ok cheers fella! ill supply beer tokens  :y
Title: Re: Omega Mv6 3.0... 130bhp
Post by: TheBoy on 23 January 2013, 18:23:54
Where in Rugby are you (I work on Boughton Road), might be able to take a quick look one evening
Do you fix MV6 handbrakes in works carparks as well ;D