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Title: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 21 January 2013, 09:20:24
CCR 2006 BOSE in a 200 X Reg 2.5 V6 Elite

Everything fine with unit switched off. But when switched on radio & CD all works ok but no details on screen display, just empty.

I've been termpted to disconnect from power and have code ready, but what if screen is the same and I can't enter codes ?

Any ideas out there ?

A while back unit was sent to Dave DVD to sort the "CD Safe" issue, been fine since then but this happened out of the blue.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Dave DND on 21 January 2013, 10:52:18
Does the screen work with the other data on it when radio is off ?

ie: is it the screen thats faulty, or the radio ?

If screen still shows other data, then may well be worth disconnecting for 10 minutes, refitting and see what happens.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: TheBoy on 21 January 2013, 12:20:23
Is the time on the screen?

If the screen is completely blank, check you haven't turned down the dash illumination (the only wheel on the headlight switch)
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 21 January 2013, 13:16:29
Does the screen work with the other data on it when radio is off ?

ie: is it the screen thats faulty, or the radio ?

If screen still shows other data, then may well be worth disconnecting for 10 minutes, refitting and see what happens.

It's just the radio data, everything else is ok, time, temp, fuel, miles etc

I'm a bit concerned about disconnecting as this will require codes on reconnection, and without have a screen could be difficult.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 21 January 2013, 13:17:03
Is the time on the screen?

If the screen is completely blank, check you haven't turned down the dash illumination (the only wheel on the headlight switch)

See above. Yes, time etc is fine
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Dave DND on 21 January 2013, 13:48:55
Dodgy joint or connector maybe?  :-\

Its going to be a case of pull it out to try to reset it I`m afraid
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: TheBoy on 21 January 2013, 17:49:10
I know the earlier Phillips ones, which this is based on, allow you to adjust display type.. ...wonder if worth trying to change? Although that could leave you up shit creek ;D
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: dbug on 21 January 2013, 20:33:49
I know the earlier Phillips ones, which this is based on, allow you to adjust display type.. ...wonder if worth trying to change? Although that could leave you up shit creek ;D

Believe you can get paddles off ebay  ;D :y
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Dave DND on 21 January 2013, 23:26:11
I know the earlier Phillips ones, which this is based on, allow you to adjust display type.. ...wonder if worth trying to change? Although that could leave you up shit creek ;D

Worth a try - the code screen is always shown in both screen variants upon battery connection, so that whatever display you have, code entry is always possible when power is restored.

After that, the display will either freeze or dissappear, depending on 8 or 10 digit display configuration settings.

 :y
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 07 April 2013, 17:44:40
Ok, so far I have totally failed to remove the head unit. I've been using correct removal tools, been really patient. Pushed, pulled, wiggled, twisted, you name it.

Today, I got a bit impatient and tried force. Result, part of the unit facia detatched from the internal unit. I may have knackered it, BUT I still CAN NOT GET THE UNIT OUT.

I have removed the unit once before to send it to DaveDND, and it wasn't easy. This time it's impossible.

Any ideas ?
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: steve6367 on 07 April 2013, 22:09:39
I can't offer any positive advice, but I have been trying to get mine out for some time with no luck!
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: dbug on 08 April 2013, 01:05:18
If you have cheapo removal keys, try careful filing to get "sharp" tangs at the end - this should help.

Like this -
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/removalkey_zpsde7eb502.jpg)
 :y

Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 08 April 2013, 20:45:45
If you have cheapo removal keys, try careful filing to get "sharp" tangs at the end - this should help.

Like this -
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/removalkey_zpsde7eb502.jpg)
 :y

Could well be worth a try ! Thanks  :y

However . . . . I am also seriously considering a very big hammer  :y
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Dave DND on 09 April 2013, 10:02:03
A few minutes with a file to get those sharp edges is a very wise idea   :y

we do exactly the same with our tools here   :y
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: TheBoy on 09 April 2013, 21:19:33
Indeed, mine are all like that as well. The crap autoleads ones Hellfrauds sell need regular refiling, made of cheese.

I don't need to do this for the single DIN units, only the double DIN ones.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 07 May 2013, 13:31:19

Update: TB and others had a go at it at the High Wycombe meet, still would not come out. So, used some brute force, fascia broke off and out it came with help from some hefty pliers. There's some comfort in knowing that others also failed not just me !

Unit is now almost certainly completely knackered, but it was no use anyway. I got given (yes given!) another unit (thanks Ben!), but completely untested, with a possible code, and almost certainly not Bose enabled. Not tried fitting it yet, I want to use some lubricant to make sure I can get it out again if I should need to. If it works, then I will need to see if it can be Bose'd
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: jonny2112 on 07 May 2013, 18:59:21
I had similar issues getting my unit out too, and had to repair the fascia  :-[
When refitting I removed the locking plates from the side of the unit to allow easier removal while testing  :y
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 07 May 2013, 20:32:50
I had similar issues getting my unit out too, and had to repair the fascia  :-[
When refitting I removed the locking plates from the side of the unit to allow easier removal while testing  :y

I wondered about that. I'm a bit concerned that If I slide in another unit, I'll get the same situation in not being able to get it out again. Might try the same.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 10 May 2013, 18:12:58
CCR 2006 BOSE in a 200 X Reg 2.5 V6 Elite

Everything fine with unit switched off. But when switched on radio & CD all works ok but no details on screen display, just empty.

I've been termpted to disconnect from power and have code ready, but what if screen is the same and I can't enter codes ?

Any ideas out there ?

A while back unit was sent to Dave DVD to sort the "CD Safe" issue, been fine since then but this happened out of the blue.


So . . . the saga continues

Unit got stuck, ended up wrecking it to get it out.

Got given another complete CCR2006, Removed retaining clips in case this one got stuck

Slide it in and . . . . . exactly the same as the original  >:(

With unit off the screen is completely 100% as normal. Switch unit on and where you would normally see the radio station, or CD details, its just nothing. The time etc still shows. Switch unit off everything as normal again.  Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I emphasize, this is a different CCR 2006 unit.

Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: TheBoy on 10 May 2013, 18:47:39
OK, you need to check the continuity on the 3 (or is it 4) wires between HU and screen.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 10 May 2013, 21:52:11
OK, you need to check the continuity on the 3 (or is it 4) wires between HU and screen.

Jamie, sorry but I know that many out there are serious techies, but just what does that mean in English. And why does it work, and then NOT work ? What's changed ? Does a wire suddenly become incomplete on it's own ?

Although this car generally is pretty damned good now I have a serious feeling that I am going to end up almost dumping it because . . . . . . the sound system doesn't work. Not good when everything else is ok.
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Simon.rose1 on 11 May 2013, 16:55:52
This might be a silly question but the bulb behind that part of the display hadn't gone has it as had them go on the vec and if you put a torch up to it you can see the figures if they working
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: TheBoy on 12 May 2013, 09:33:59
This might be a silly question but the bulb behind that part of the display hadn't gone has it as had them go on the vec and if you put a torch up to it you can see the figures if they working
The other lines are OK, so not bulbs (MIDs will still display even if only 1 bulb is working)
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: TheBoy on 12 May 2013, 09:38:13
OK, you need to check the continuity on the 3 (or is it 4) wires between HU and screen.

Jamie, sorry but I know that many out there are serious techies, but just what does that mean in English. And why does it work, and then NOT work ? What's changed ? Does a wire suddenly become incomplete on it's own ?

Although this car generally is pretty damned good now I have a serious feeling that I am going to end up almost dumping it because . . . . . . the sound system doesn't work. Not good when everything else is ok.
Hmmm, 2 options I see, either measure the continuity between HU and screen, or try a replacement MID.  How far are you from me?
Title: Re: CCR 2006 Blank Screen
Post by: Rog on 13 May 2013, 14:05:09
OK, you need to check the continuity on the 3 (or is it 4) wires between HU and screen.

Jamie, sorry but I know that many out there are serious techies, but just what does that mean in English. And why does it work, and then NOT work ? What's changed ? Does a wire suddenly become incomplete on it's own ?

Although this car generally is pretty damned good now I have a serious feeling that I am going to end up almost dumping it because . . . . . . the sound system doesn't work. Not good when everything else is ok.
Hmmm, 2 options I see, either measure the continuity between HU and screen, or try a replacement MID.  How far are you from me?

Thanks TB, North London so not so far. However, I've just bought an MV6, and probably I will be putting this car as it is in the "For Sale" section soon.