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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Agemo on 26 January 2013, 22:22:15

Title: Latest scam?
Post by: Agemo on 26 January 2013, 22:22:15
I received this, and wondered if it applied to Omegas. :-

Latest scam...........

I locked my car. As I walked away I heard my car door unlock. I went back and locked my car again three times.
Each time, as soon as I started to walk away, I could hear it unlock again!! Naturally alarmed, I looked around and there were two men sitting in a car next to the store.
They were obviously watching me intently, and there seemed no doubt they were somehow involved in this very weird situation.
I quickly abandoned my errand, jumped into my car and sped away. I went straight to the
police station, told them what had happened, and found out I was part of a new, and very successful, scheme being used to gain entry into parked cars.
Two weeks later, my friend's son had a similar experience....While travelling, he stopped at a motorway service area to use the toilet. When he came out to his car less than 5 minutes later, someone had managed to get into his car and had stolen his mobile phone, laptop computer, sat-nav, briefcase and other belongings.
He called the police and since there were no signs of his car having been broken into, the police told him he had probably been a victim of the latest robbery tactic – there is a device that robbers are using now to clone your security code when you lock your doors on your car using your remote locking device. They sit a distance away and watch for their next victim. They know you are going inside the store, restaurant, or whatever and that they now have a few minutes to steal and  run. The police officer said always to lock your car manually with the key when parking in a public area. That way if there is someone sitting in a car nearby watching for their next victim, it will not be you.
When you lock up with the key upon exiting, it does not send the security code, but if you walk away and use the remote button, it sends the code through the airwaves where it can be easily intercepted by the device. This is very real. Be aware of what you have just read and please pass this information on. Look how many times we all lock our doors with our remote just to be sure we remembered to lock  them --  and bingo, someone has our code...and potentially whatever is in our  car." Please share with everyone you know in the hope that we can frustrate these thieves.

Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: symes on 26 January 2013, 22:27:25
Scanners not new mate-been about for a while unfortunately another one is when you stop-they pull you out-car jacking 
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Nickbat on 26 January 2013, 22:30:08
Much as I love my Omega, I am now of the opinion that I could easily leave it unlocked every night and no-one would nick it.

Even thieves know the value of motors. ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: symes on 26 January 2013, 22:41:22
Unfortunatly if some intellectually fatherless thing wants to freely remove your vehicle without permission-they will and when/if they get court the interpreter has a busy time :y
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Agemo on 26 January 2013, 22:59:16
Thanks for the replies, good job they are worth nothing then (to them anyway).
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Terbs on 26 January 2013, 23:47:09
I have to ask the question.....
Why did they unlock the car while you were there ??? Surely they would have waited till you were gone ??? If they did it once for confirmation, they must have been a few brain cells short if they got the code when you first locked it.......
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: pscocoa on 27 January 2013, 00:19:03
My Omega has an occasional tendency to have a spell of unexplained unlocking. I park up lock on key fob, start to walk away and it unlocks. I open and close all doors etc which sometimes works but once or twice had to lock up manually.
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 January 2013, 00:24:46
It's not the Omega, but the contents they're after. Laptops, tablets, smartphones etc...  >:(
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Terbs on 27 January 2013, 09:35:57
Not taking anything away from OP, but can car alarms, doorlocks be subject to radio waves from another source, like for instance, every time the lady two doors up opens her electric garage door, my wireless doorbell rings. Also when I used to fly Radio Control aircraft, the emergency sevices could interfere with the signal.
Could some nearby signal cause this, as the op says someone sat in a car with a bit of equipment is doing it. I think most of us have experienced doors being found unlocked when we are positive we locked them.
Irrespective of how they try to get in, I never leave stuff in the car. I know that is not possible with people that use tech equipment for work, like laptops etc.
Certainly made me think about manually locking though!!!! :y
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: SteveAvfc. on 27 January 2013, 09:45:42
My Omega has an occasional tendency to have a spell of unexplained unlocking. I park up lock on key fob, start to walk away and it unlocks. I open and close all doors etc which sometimes works but once or twice had to lock up manually.

Dito mine has been playing up like this for a couple of years now, find it just as easy to lock the door from leaning in from the back and
locking Manuely via pushing down the pin.
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 January 2013, 10:07:04
Bet you got it via email. Its a chain letter.

Whilst technically possible on (much) older cars, anything from the 90s or later would have a rolling code, so it can't be scanned, stored and reused.
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 January 2013, 10:57:04
Bet you got it via email. Its a chain letter.

Whilst technically possible on (much) older cars, anything from the 90s or later would have a rolling code, so it can't be scanned, stored and reused.

Agreed. Whilst not impossible, it'd be a serious challenge to crack a rolling code remote on the fly. I won't be losing any sleep over this.
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 27 January 2013, 11:38:35
Bet you got it via email. Its a chain letter.

Whilst technically possible on (much) older cars, anything from the 90s or later would have a rolling code, so it can't be scanned, stored and reused.


But on the BBC programme Watchdog they recently did a feature of new BMW's being entered and driven off by using a devise meant only for garages. The cars were being unlocked outside the owners homes during the night. The last we knew BMW were urgently updating their entry codes and dealing with the cars individually to change certain elements of their security systems. ;)
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 January 2013, 11:44:02
There's a certain parking spot in the fuel station at Sedgemore services on the M5 northbound where the remote on my Mig has never worked and I've always had to lock the car manually...  :( 

The trouble is I never remember until I'm parked up and walking away pressing the button...... usually busting for a pee!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Agemo on 27 January 2013, 12:00:15
Thanks to all for the replies. I did receive it via e-mail, and it has never happened to me, I only posted it so you could make up your own opinion, and if I have wasted anyone's time, I am sure I would like to hear that, rather than someone on here losing their laptop, sat-nav etc.
 :y
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 January 2013, 13:11:41
Bet you got it via email. Its a chain letter.

Whilst technically possible on (much) older cars, anything from the 90s or later would have a rolling code, so it can't be scanned, stored and reused.


But on the BBC programme Watchdog they recently did a feature of new BMW's being entered and driven off by using a devise meant only for garages. The cars were being unlocked outside the owners homes during the night. The last we knew BMW were urgently updating their entry codes and dealing with the cars individually to change certain elements of their security systems. ;)
High value cars, such as £70k beemers, its worth someone reverse engineering the security. Just so happens that BMW used the same system on the MINI.

Most high value cars are 'easy' to steal, as replacement ECUs ignoring the immobiliser are freely available.
Title: Re: Latest scam?
Post by: Terbs on 27 January 2013, 13:12:00
Not wasting time, matey :y

Its all good for discussion, theoretical or not :y