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Title: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 January 2013, 17:18:33
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Anything that costs that greedy waste of food and oxygen money can only be a good thing ;D
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: albitz on 31 January 2013, 17:25:23
It just means that fairs will go up across the board to allow a bigger compo fund to be kept in reserve.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 January 2013, 17:44:14
Here's hoping that he prices himself out of the market :y

If my only two choices for going somewhere were flying with Ryanair or walking, then I would walk every single time :y and I really don't do walking ::)
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Rods2 on 31 January 2013, 18:45:49
Totally disagree with this typical nanny state legislation, which puts airfares up for everyone.

If you want covering in such circumstances and many won't if they are travelling from their home to second home etc, so they have somewhere to stay, then it should be by buying insurance for those that need it.

Socialism and nanny state risk aversion has killed enterprise in the UK and Europe. This is why virtually all the big companies of the past 40 years and those that are going to shape the future have and are happening in the US and Asia. Apple, Microsoft, Intel, AMD, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Samsung, Hyundai, LG etc etc. The only UK company I can think of is Vodafone and I can't think of a European one.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 January 2013, 19:00:32
It just means that fairs will go up across the board to allow a bigger compo fund to be kept in reserve.
Even Easyjet manage to meet their obligations in this regard :y

What sets Ryanair apart is simply that they choose not to meet their obligations and make claiming as difficult as possible. The fewer people who take them to court, the less they avoid paying out, so any successful claim is a small victory for all the people that he robs blind everyday :-\
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Nickbat on 31 January 2013, 19:13:59
It just means that fairs will go up across the board to allow a bigger compo fund to be kept in reserve.
Even Easyjet manage to meet their obligations in this regard :y

What sets Ryanair apart is simply that they choose not to meet their obligations and make claiming as difficult as possible. The fewer people who take them to court, the less they avoid paying out, so any successful claim is a small victory for all the people that he robs blind everyday :-\

Until this court case, it was not a legal obligation. Furthermore, it's all very well and good to talk about people being robbed blind everyday, but those people have a choice whether or not to fly Ryanair. We could, of course, go back to the old days when it was largely only BA that flew scheduled to Europe and it cost a fortune. Plus, the fact that Ryanair and EasyJet have opened up destinations which would otherwise not be served. You get what you pay for which, for the majority of Ryanair customers, is cheapest way to travel fast from A to B.

I'm with Rods on this one.  :y
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 January 2013, 20:18:15
My aversion to Ryanair is based simply on my experience behind the scenes :y

I haven't flown with either Ryanair or Easyjet, but based on how they operate from a groundcrew perspective I would happily fly with Easyjet everytime. :y

But,as you rightly say, you pays your money...
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: ozzycat on 31 January 2013, 20:30:56
he deserves all the crap thry can throw at gim h wanted to charge me £95 to take my wheelchair on his plane and they would not let me take it on board but in the cargohold  but they would not help me on to the plane i cant climb steps ba did it all for free
 hes a sh...... well icant print what i think about him
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: mantahatch on 31 January 2013, 20:44:45
I have flown with ryanair twice now and I am booked for a third flight in April.

The first time was horrendous. But then I learnt to pay the extra £10 and it really is worth it. £10 gets you reserved seating with extra leg room and priority boarding. People will pay £5 for priority boarding but still have to fight for seats if lots have paid the fiver. for £5 extra get the extra leg room and no fighting for a seat with other priority boarders.

It was heaven last time we used them. And I suspect it will be fine again this time.   
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: ozzycat on 01 February 2013, 15:59:54
I have flown with ryanair twice now and I am booked for a third flight in April.

The first time was horrendous. But then I learnt to pay the extra £10 and it really is worth it. £10 gets you reserved seating with extra leg room and priority boarding. People will pay £5 for priority boarding but still have to fight for seats if lots have paid the fiver. for £5 extra get the extra leg room and no fighting for a seat with other priority boarders.

It was heaven last time we used them. And I suspect it will be fine again this time.
proberbly will be my expierance of them is not very good im glad you have good ones :y
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Varche on 01 February 2013, 16:17:20
he deserves all the crap thry can throw at gim h wanted to charge me £95 to take my wheelchair on his plane and they would not let me take it on board but in the cargohold  but they would not help me on to the plane i cant climb steps ba did it all for free
 hes a sh...... well icant print what i think about him

We fly back to England maybe 5 to 7 times a year. Mother in Law comes three times. She is registered disabled. We nearly always fly Ryanair. Cheapest and best flight times and rarely late. If you request assistance (you specify what assistance on the booking) then the paraphanelia travels free. We bring a small electric scooter (which she rides to and from the plane, a battery charger, front basket and a rear saddle bag PLUS a three wheeled walker and a walking stick.
It works very well at the Malaga end. It grieves me to say that at the Midlands end it is only barely acceptable. The person who turns up(eventually) to assist is offhand. When you get on the plane and it is late because he didn't turn up it is embarrassing. He is airport staff rather than Ryanair of course.

We had a bird strike at takeoff at Reus airport and the Ryanair plane's engines were shot. The flight was cancelled. They booked us on next days flight (free) but no other financial help. Some passengers were just evil to the staff. We had a nice night at a hotel and claimed about half the cost off our travel insurance. I suppose now Ryanair would pay for taxis to and from hotel and meals. As others say, the basic price will go up a percent to cover the costs.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2013, 16:46:46
I thought airlines were obliged to provide overnight accommodation in the event of a cancellation where an overnight stay is required and the cancellation was not previously notified? That's what I've had from sleazyjet and BA, anyway (more times than I care to remember).

I think he can put up his prices as much as he likes. I prefer to pay a little more and be treated (almost) like a human being.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: biggriffin on 01 February 2013, 16:49:34
Remember rynair is a flying bus service you are paying for a seat everything else is EXTRA.
 If you want luxurious flights then pay,you want cheap no frills then go rynair.
It gets you from point A to Point B in a fashion at a cheap price.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Rog on 01 February 2013, 17:13:39
Remember rynair is a flying bus service you are paying for a seat everything else is EXTRA.
 If you want luxurious flights then pay,you want cheap no frills then go rynair.
It gets you from point A to Point B in a fashion at a cheap price.

 . . . . and the very fact that Ryanair exists at all, keeps the other airlines on their toes.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: albitz on 01 February 2013, 17:15:24
Im not a big fan of Lyinair,but ime Sleazyjet are worse.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 February 2013, 17:16:35
I wouldn't know about any of this as I always fly first class with British Airways ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


 ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 February 2013, 17:27:17
I thought airlines were obliged to provide overnight accommodation in the event of a cancellation where an overnight stay is required and the cancellation was not previously notified? That's what I've had from sleazyjet and BA, anyway (more times than I care to remember).

I think he can put up his prices as much as he likes. I prefer to pay a little more and be treated (almost) like a human being.

The bare minimum is a refreshment voucher and possibly arrange alternative flights at minimal cost. Most airlines go well above and beyond this as they would prefer to retain you as there customer :y

A scenario that actually happened...

A Travel City Direct flight from Gatwick to Orlando operated by Excel Airways, STD 11.00. Delayed an hour or so due to the late arrival of the aircraft, an elderly 747-300.

On arrival at Gatwick, 09.40 ish, the aicraft goes tech due to various significant problems.

Spare 747-300 called from Manchester at 10.30. Take off aborted due to smoke in the flight deck. Aircraft returns to stand so the engineers can fix it. Eventually leaves Manchester at about 14.00...
only to land at Gatwick with reports of smoke in the flight deck.

Manchester aircraft is prepared for the Orlando flight whilst the engineers try to fix it. Confident that the plane is fixed, crew are called and the passengers are sent down to the gate. They eventually begin boarding at about 19.00. A further delay follows, due to the loaders.

At 20.30, the cabin doors are closed, the airbridge backed off, and lastly, having been cleared to push back when ready, the loaders go to close the rear hold door... which jams.

Captain suggests, that the engineers have twenty minutes to sort it, as the aircraft needs to be airbourne within thirty minutes, else the relief crew go out of hours. At 20.55, the Captain decides that the flight will have to depart in the morning with a fresh crew.

At 21.00 the Airline rep announces over the tannoy, that the passengers would not be departing for Orlando because the crew were, and I quote, "Tired"

At about 22.30 the passengers are forcibly removed from the aircraft by the police.

The airlines first offer was the Gatwick Hilton, dinner, bed and breakfast, with the flight rescheduled for 09.00 the following morning, so up at 06.30. 300 passengers accepted this offer and went off to the hotel.

The rest demanded more, so were sent, by coach down to The Grand in Brighton.

A hard core of fifteen or so passengers insisted that this was totally unacceptable.

The airlines final offer...the statutory minimum of a voucher of £5 per passenger, and a pillow and blanket each.

Be careful what you wish for, and choose your airlines wisely :y
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 February 2013, 17:27:59
I wouldn't know about any of this as I always fly first class with British Airways ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


 ;D ;D ;)

The only way Lizzie, the only way ;D
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: albitz on 01 February 2013, 17:35:57
BA are the only airline who have ever lost my luggage,and that was flying from Heathrow to Belfast. ;D
They are over rated imo.Best ime have been Virgin Atlantic,despite the fact I think Branson (the grinning sweater) is a complete nob.
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 February 2013, 17:45:05
Probaby got your bag confused with someone elses ::) Were the RUC apologetic when they dropped it round :-\

Virgin very good, always have been IME :y

To be fair, most significant airlines are fine, (some american ones are a bit backwards with their cabin services though ::))

If you gave me a years free travel on Ryanair I would say thankyou, reimburse you and shred the ticket. There is nothing on this earth or the next that will see me set foot on a Ryanair aircraft. Ever.

But that's just me ::)
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Rog on 01 February 2013, 17:53:11
BA are the only airline who have ever lost my luggage,and that was flying from Heathrow to Belfast. ;D
They are over rated imo.Best ime have been Virgin Atlantic,despite the fact I think Branson (the grinning sweater) is a complete nob.

Opening day Terminal 5 2008. I was there. Nice and early and organised etc. To cut a very long story short, 26 hours to get to Milan without our luggage. Even getting to Heathrow on the tube was a cock-up as Tube staff didn't know which trains were going to T5. My son texted me to tell me I was one of the passenger being shown on TV, so FAME at last  :D !

I now fly only when there really is no alternative. I dislike to time it takes to get to the airport, I dislike waiting and being herded around at the airport, I dislike the extortion of the shops and eating places at the airport, I dislike the high risk of a delay, I dislike the apprehension of not having bags at the other end, I dislike being miles away from my eventual destination. And with regard to my experience at the opening day of T5 i disliked being lied to time and time again by BA staff  >:( 

So, up to 1,000km of Calais, I drive.  :y

Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: albitz on 01 February 2013, 18:00:47
Agreed.I avoid flying if reasonably possible.I dislike the whole experience from start to finish. :y
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Rods2 on 01 February 2013, 21:57:00
The problem with both Heathrow and Gatwick is that the runways are at full capacity. If you miss your takeoff slot for any reason, you are in for a very long wait.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: feeutfo on 01 February 2013, 22:25:20
Having seen the headlines on this it appears lieingschemeingnaziair have bought this on themselves, as it was their own tightfisted cases that where highlighted when they themselves refused to pay out. Now the w@*ker is moaning its a sad day for consumers.

That guy doesn't give a rats ares about anyone else but himself and his profit share. And I don't buy the cheap flights to the masses argument. It was the only area of the market left for an airline.

Their flights are a disgrace, rude staff and i hope they go bust.  >:(  Take their poxy scratch card with them too. ;D
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2013, 23:16:02
Agreed.I avoid flying if reasonably possible.I dislike the whole experience from start to finish. :y

It's quite nice without any other people or an engine. ;)
Title: Re: Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 02 February 2013, 09:38:08
he is a nasty old git :y :y