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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: feeutfo on 10 February 2013, 17:35:09
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I'm told , the same sky services can be had from talk talk saving about a third on cost.
Interesting, but is the service up to scratch? Is the tv box any good? Etc
Anyone got it? :)
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You mean just for broadband? Sky like other ISP's piggy back off BT Openreach. So its the same pipework to the house, just the price is different.
Usually when bundled with TV & phone, Sky's BB is quite competitive.
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All three services apparently. Tv, phone, bb.
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With the exception of Virgin Media, BT Openreach provide the last mile. So, from that perspective, changing should make little difference. What happens between the local exchange and the internet is where the ISPs vary.
I am aware that TalkTalk, the ISP arm of the Carphone Worehouse, has had some severe technical problems recently, that have caused a lot of customers not to have internet for several days. That said, I know Sky have had more than their fair share of problems on their LLU based services over the past few months, so that probably evens out. Neither are exactly premium ISPs.
Not sure how the Whorehouse provides TV - I would imagine BT Vision style, partially Freeview, partially VoD ?
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With the exception of Virgin Media, BT Openreach provide the last mile. So, from that perspective, changing should make little difference. What happens between the local exchange and the internet is where the ISPs vary.
I am aware that TalkTalk, the ISP arm of the Carphone Worehouse, has had some severe technical problems recently, that have caused a lot of customers not to have internet for several days. That said, I know Sky have had more than their fair share of problems on their LLU based services over the past few months, so that probably evens out. Neither are exactly premium ISPs.
Not sure how the Whorehouse provides TV - I would imagine BT Vision style, partially Freeview, partially VoD ?
Although TT has now been "sold off" and run as a separate business (some 18 months or so ago) I still wouldn't go anywhere near any company associated with the useless retards that are CPW >:( >:( >:(
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With the exception of Virgin Media, BT Openreach provide the last mile. So, from that perspective, changing should make little difference. What happens between the local exchange and the internet is where the ISPs vary.
I am aware that TalkTalk, the ISP arm of the Carphone Worehouse, has had some severe technical problems recently, that have caused a lot of customers not to have internet for several days. That said, I know Sky have had more than their fair share of problems on their LLU based services over the past few months, so that probably evens out. Neither are exactly premium ISPs.
Not sure how the Whorehouse provides TV - I would imagine BT Vision style, partially Freeview, partially VoD ?
Although TT has now been "sold off" and run as a separate business (some 18 months or so ago) I still wouldn't go anywhere near any company associated with the useless retards that are CPW >:( >:( >:(
Not really, just seperated and both put under a holding company. So effectively one and the same.
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My main concern is the tv service. Is it delivered via a broadband service? Still through the dish or what?
I could google it, but where's the fun in that. ;)
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With the exception of Virgin Media, BT Openreach provide the last mile. So, from that perspective, changing should make little difference. What happens between the local exchange and the internet is where the ISPs vary.
I am aware that TalkTalk, the ISP arm of the Carphone Worehouse, has had some severe technical problems recently, that have caused a lot of customers not to have internet for several days. That said, I know Sky have had more than their fair share of problems on their LLU based services over the past few months, so that probably evens out. Neither are exactly premium ISPs.
Not sure how the Whorehouse provides TV - I would imagine BT Vision style, partially Freeview, partially VoD ?
Although TT has now been "sold off" and run as a separate business (some 18 months or so ago) I still wouldn't go anywhere near any company associated with the useless retards that are CPW >:( >:( >:(
Not really, just seperated and both put under a holding company. So effectively one and the same.
Which is why I still wouldn't have anything to do with them ;)
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ive got the talktalk youveiw system you can subscribe to certain sky sevices at about 10-15 pounds a month ive not done it yet but maydo bin the futture The youveiw service is quite good :y :y
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My main concern is the tv service. Is it delivered via a broadband service? Still through the dish or what?
I could google it, but where's the fun in that. ;)
Of course you can't have the same tv service, fathead.
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https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/info/tv/tv
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We were quite lucky around where I live when the "old" NTL ran cabling to all the houses on the estate, never bothered with it for quite a while until Virgin took over, now I have the internet / tv / and phone all through them, may be slightly more expensive but have had good service for over 5 years now, cant beat fibre optics, see some of the others with dishes out side come out every time it rains to "look" at it for some reason..(sorry slightly off topic)
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At the moment, you will loose access to all Sky mobile apps if not a direct subscriber with us. Things like Sky News iPad, Go, Sports ect, won't work if you have sports/F1 via other suppliers.
There are plans to resolve this, but talking years before delivered.
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
Best? Most compehensive, certain. But most of the stuff I record is on BBC 4 anyway. Hence, not best for me. But fully understand thats its best for some/many :)
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
I'll have to get you one of my 50% discount codes :D
Where Sky are doing very well is the bundles, you get broadband & phone, then for a small extra price you get standard TV pack.
Where it gets expensive is if you have Sports & Movies.
As staff I get the whole lot as a freebie, priced it up once on the retail site few years ago, came to over £100/month! :o ;D
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But the broadband side is a bit pants, Mr T, so I'd still need a phone line to put a decent broadband over ;)
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But the broadband side is a bit pants, Mr T, so I'd still need a phone line to put a decent broadband over ;)
Only as bad as what Openreach provide, as others do, we provide fibre.
I had a 8Mbit line in my bedroom before I got my flat, quite happy with that I found it reliable. Although I'll admit the supplied routers are rubbish!
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But the broadband side is a bit pants, Mr T, so I'd still need a phone line to put a decent broadband over ;)
Only as bad as what Openreach provide, as others do, we provide fibre.
I had a 8Mbit line in my bedroom before I got my flat, quite happy with that I found it reliable. Although I'll admit the supplied routers are rubbish!
That, really, just determines sync rate. If it was purely just that, all ISPs would be equal. Most congestion happens on the links between BT Wholesale's PoP and the ISP, or within the ISP itself. Or in the cases like Sky, that have a fair bit of LLU, on the backhauls.
I have no loyalty to my ISP, so if you can prove that Sky provide a better service, with the features I need...
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Can't see Sky meeting your needs, but for the averageJoe i think they do well enough
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I've had sky bb for two weeks now. Don't have to keep resetting the router, through loss of wifi, as I did with bt.
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That's a router fault Esta. Fairly sure. :)
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That's a router fault Esta. Fairly sure. :)
Really? But you were fairly sure that talk talk is sky. ;D
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
Best? Most compehensive, certain. But most of the stuff I record is on BBC 4 anyway. Hence, not best for me. But fully understand thats its best for some/many :)
Aye? Since when was "not best for you" a criteria for anything ?
Man Utd are the best premier league team currently, the fact you support Villa doesn't alter the points table. Like it or not ;D
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That's a router fault Esta. Fairly sure. :)
Really? But you were fairly sure that talk talk is sky. ;D
And wtf is Esta on about now? :-\
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I've had sky bb for two weeks now. Don't have to keep resetting the router, through loss of wifi, as I did with bt.
Homehub 3? That really is a shocking piece of junk. They must have planned it to be that bad, as they even put an easily accessible reset button on it.
Still, it doesn't stop BT calling me every few weeks, promising a faster broadband speed if I move, mainly due to their "superior" hub, as they have found a review where it won a magazine award (like a certain member's beloved tyre review sites, magazine IT review sites are equally worthless).
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
Best? Most compehensive, certain. But most of the stuff I record is on BBC 4 anyway. Hence, not best for me. But fully understand thats its best for some/many :)
Aye? Since when was "not best for you" a criteria for anything ?
Man Utd are the best premier league team currently, the fact you support Villa doesn't alter the points table. Like it or not ;D
One has to learn to accept that others may have a different view. Even when they are clearly wrong.
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
I'll have to get you one of my 50% discount codes :D
Where Sky are doing very well is the bundles, you get broadband & phone, then for a small extra price you get standard TV pack.
Where it gets expensive is if you have Sports & Movies.
As staff I get the whole lot as a freebie, priced it up once on the retail site few years ago, came to over £100/month! :o ;D
Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
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Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
Doubt that will happen TBH, as its a ploy to sucker people in. Like year 1 insurance quotes.
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Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
Doubt that will happen TBH, as its a ploy to sucker people in. Like year 1 insurance quotes.
Yeah I know,but no harm in asking ::)
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Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
Doubt that will happen TBH, as its a ploy to sucker people in. Like year 1 insurance quotes.
Yeah I know,but no harm in asking ::)
Best bet is to ring them up and cancel. Be prepared to go through with it though, as they are quite good at judging. If no joy, go through with cancellation - they will call you back. If they don't, just resubscribe
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Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
Doubt that will happen TBH, as its a ploy to sucker people in. Like year 1 insurance quotes.
Yeah I know,but no harm in asking ::)
Best bet is to ring them up and cancel. Be prepared to go through with it though, as they are quite good at judging. If no joy, go through with cancellation - they will call you back. If they don't, just resubscribe
Thought about going that route,trouble is the kids will be well pissed off if it gets turned off :-\
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Why try to cancel? We all know what it costs. Why should it be cheaper for some? If you think it's worth the money, keep it, if not, then really cancel.
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Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
Doubt that will happen TBH, as its a ploy to sucker people in. Like year 1 insurance quotes.
Yeah I know,but no harm in asking ::)
Best bet is to ring them up and cancel. Be prepared to go through with it though, as they are quite good at judging. If no joy, go through with cancellation - they will call you back. If they don't, just resubscribe
Thought about going that route,trouble is the kids will be well pissed off if it gets turned off :-\
As said, if they get to point of cutting off, just resubscribe. At worse, you'll be without it for a few days.
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Why try to cancel? We all know what it costs. Why should it be cheaper for some? If you think it's worth the money, keep it, if not, then really cancel.
Well, yes, I agree.
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
I'll have to get you one of my 50% discount codes :D
Where Sky are doing very well is the bundles, you get broadband & phone, then for a small extra price you get standard TV pack.
Where it gets expensive is if you have Sports & Movies.
As staff I get the whole lot as a freebie, priced it up once on the retail site few years ago, came to over £100/month! :o ;D
Still no discounts for existing subscribers then :'(
once your an existing customer they are not interrested full stop :y :y
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Get freesat Ralf.Thats like pattern sky. :y ;D
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Get freesat Ralf.Thats like pattern sky. :y ;D
Well thats a load of coffee over my screen. Can I bill you for a new laptop Albs ;D
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Get freesat Ralf.Thats like pattern sky. :y ;D
Brilliant :y :y :y :y ;D ;D ;D ;D
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there is no doubt that sky provide the best telly but some of us just cant aford it even though i would like to sorry tunnie
Best? Most compehensive, certain. But most of the stuff I record is on BBC 4 anyway. Hence, not best for me. But fully understand thats its best for some/many :)
Aye? Since when was "not best for you" a criteria for anything ?
Man Utd are the best premier league team currently, the fact you support Villa doesn't alter the points table. Like it or not ;D
One has to learn to accept that others may have a different view. Even when they are clearly wrong.
No problem with that, glad to see your finally seeing sense. ;D ;)
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Get freesat Ralf.Thats like pattern sky. :y ;D
no i will wait for virgin ;D ;D
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Get freesat Ralf.Thats like pattern sky. :y ;D
no i will wait for virgin ;D ;D
Keep waiting, don't bother with their TiVo service, their standard boxes are just as poor and slow to use.
Cost wise similar to Sky, only worth considering Virgin if you have cable in the area. Their ADSL setup is shite
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See! Sky is best. Just is! :)