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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Bionic on 13 February 2013, 05:25:45
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Is this some sort of joke on us all? I wonder because horse meat has been eaten by joe public willingly and in the full knowledge of what was all over the continent, and in most of the other countries of the world for donkey years (pardon the pun)! There has never been an outcry about it until some desk bound seat polishing wally has let their personal preferences and objections overrule their common sense! No doubt the usual 'diploma' played a big part in it. Problem with a diploma is that it usually accompanies a total lack of common sense and the inability to have any insight into the implications of any act they initiate.
I have eaten horse meat, and also many other types that are not commonly available for years and enjoy it all. What is the difference between eating any bof them and eating the meat of a lamb, pig, cow, deer, rabbit or any other animal? Somewhere on this planet there is an animal, even insects and grubs, being consumed as food and being enjoyed. Why should the horse be exempt? There is no logical reason at all other than the 'horsey faction' do not like it! Pet meat contains it too.
The biggest question has to be this; Not one single member of the public in any country has complained of the taste or anything else about the products that it has now transpired contained horse meat in any percentage. Surelt that alone gives credence that this is some gameplay by someone with a little authority seeking attention and seeing a massive problem where is not one?
Ah well, time to go online and contact my supplier to order more horse meat along with the other types I thoroughly enjoy!
Here is the web address if you wish to try something different;
http://www.keziefoods.co.uk/Catalogue/Exotic-Meats/Horse-Meat
The sausages are really a treat and are todays lunch with mash and onion gravy ;)
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horse meat is perficly ok to eat aslong as it is slaughterd properly like all outher meat and is healthier tham beef less fat more vitermins
it tasts like beef if a bit gamier it will do you no harm and cost quite a bit less than beef
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
And just to illustrate that point, Sainsbury's Frozen Beef Meatballs have now been withdrawn as they have been found to contain pork.
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.
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cant stand horse meat it gives me the trots :o
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cant stand horse meat it gives me the trots :o
;D ;D ;D ;D Very good
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.
From what I understand, it is the manufacturers themselves that have been conned...by some dodgy Eastern European abbatoirs.
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also in yorkshire and wales as per the raids last night
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.
From what I understand, it is the manufacturers themselves that have been conned...by some dodgy Eastern European abbatoirs.
It's the suppliers like Findus that have been conned by the manufactures. This is caused by companies wanting goods made as cheaply as possible, so to get them made cheaply they go to countries that have lower overheads. The problem is companies like Findus have been very laxed with their quality checks after delivery of the goods to their warehouses. The products are made in a lot of the Eastern European states and some in Germany and France Then shipped worldwide.
Always said Welsh lamb tasted funny
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
Wasn't dog food meat found in pies a few years back. IRC am sure it was in the UK papers. The problem is not the horse meat itself as this is lower in fat and has more protein than beef but the labelling and the manufactures trying to con the public into thinking they getting 100% pure beef.
Can't see the problem eating horse meat myself as a good bit of horse rump costs more than prime beef. Horse meat was eaten a lot in the 40's whilst the war was going on. Also it could be found on good UK restaurants menus until the late 1800's.
From what I understand, it is the manufacturers themselves that have been conned...by some dodgy Eastern European abbatoirs.
It's the suppliers like Findus that have been conned by the manufactures. This is caused by companies wanting goods made as cheaply as possible, so to get them made cheaply they go to countries that have lower overheads. The problem is companies like Findus have been very laxed with their quality checks after delivery of the goods to their warehouses. The products are made in a lot of the Eastern European states and some in Germany and France Then shipped worldwide.
Always said Welsh lamb tasted funny
In fairness, most food companies do not have DNA testing capabilities and, even if they did, it would not be practical to test each parcel of each consignment. The problem lies with the abbatoirs. Much simpler to ensure that horse meat does not get mixed into the beef chain there than expecting suppliers to DNA test. I think the laxity is at the abbatoir end.
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The real reason for it all . . . . ::) ::)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/Old_Mosher/Dairyfarmerdiscovers60ofhiscowsarehorses_zpsfa019fa4.jpg)
I really must have too much time on my hands . . .
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Just reserved a horse for easter so we can all have a leg!
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should have gone to spec savers :D
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I think you have missed the point. We all know that horse meat can be pleasant to eat and is on the table in a lot of countries. In Spain it is labelled Potro.
The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef. It is only a small step from horse to condemed meat or meat(e.g. Pig) that a person wouldn't eat on health grounds(allergic) or religous grounds.
Why nit pick the subject? I did not miss the point at all by not indicating that it all had been mis-labelled. The point I intended to make was that horse meat does not cause any harm when eaten, that it is still available and has been eaten for ages by most of the world and it is a safer less fatty otion than beef.
Why should the 'horsey faction' of our society dictate whether we should eat it or not? Where did the personal choice and preference go? Do gooders are at it all over the place and it is time they reigned in their subversive attitudes.
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Still hasn't got it has he...! ;D
"Choice" by definition, has not one jot to do with it. Its a beef product, and to consume it means eating horse. This is not part of the deal.
Therefor its not a question of choice, but a question of lying, cheating and deception in the name of profiteering.
Think of it like PPI from the financial industry. ....we have been conned (again) except this time by the food industry.
And it's not on!
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I would add, the ramifications of this and other cons, will only serve to cost the consumer, it seems to me. A governing body will have to be implemented or beefed up (;D) at a cost to that industry. The industry will then pass that cost on to its customers.
All because some pikey tinker in Ireland pulled a fast one with no thought for anyone but himself!
>:(
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The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
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The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
To a certain extent I agree that all those lips ears and arseholes have to get used somewhere but, call me picky if you will, I like to know specifically which animal species said extremities originated from.
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The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
Opps, just re-read that, and thought what high-and-mighty-pillock wrote that ;D
I have been known to eat such shite - usually at lunchtime, I get bored, walk around Tescos in Bletchley, and get tempted by something that claims to have meat in it. However, I know the "meat" thats in it doesn't come anywhere close to matching what my idea of meat is. Much like a McClown's 100% hamburger, that I'd bet isn't my idea of beef. But won't stop me eating them ;D
Yes, the labelling should be accurate, but it's always, on this sort of product, going to be on the very edge of misleading.
In fact, using horse, there is a good chance you may actually get some proper meat in your Findus 100% beef lasagne...
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My worry is that, if they can't even trace what type of animal it came from, what hope have they got of knowing if the animal was fit for human consumption, and how the "meat" has subsequently been treated and stored? I suspect the answer is that they couldn't give a cr@p, because until last week, they never got pulled up on it.
Big supermarkets treat their suppliers (and employees, and customers) with total contempt, so it's not really much of a surprise to me that they get what they deserve in return.
If you care what you eat, unless it came from AndyB in a tin, it's probably best to steer clear. If I go to the farmer/butcher at the end of my road, even if they do accidentally sell me the wrong meat, I know it was only poor old Dobbin from the field at the back of my garden. ;D
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The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
Opps, just re-read that, and thought what high-and-mighty-pillock wrote that ;D
I have been known to eat such shite - usually at lunchtime, I get bored, walk around Tescos in Bletchley, and get tempted by something that claims to have meat in it. However, I know the "meat" thats in it doesn't come anywhere close to matching what my idea of meat is. Much like a McClown's 100% hamburger, that I'd bet isn't my idea of beef. But won't stop me eating them ;D
Yes, the labelling should be accurate, but it's always, on this sort of product, going to be on the very edge of misleading.
In fact, using horse, there is a good chance you may actually get some proper meat in your Findus 100% beef lasagne...
The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.
However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.
As we all would be.
It's a bit like me selling you a new sport maxx TT, that is actually a part worn Falken 912 with a 10 year old manufacture date, half a dozen puncture repairs and been left out back in the sun for a year. .....ok, bad example, as you'd notice something was wrong the moment you drove the car.
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But, 3 weeks ago, who was happy to eat a processed 100% beef lasange/burger/whatever, and isn't now?
Anyone with their hand up, do you really think it was cow meat, and not bollock and brain?
So, yes, I 100% agree that the labelling should be bang on. But even if it wasn't full of horse, the labelling is still misleading, as it will be the reconsitution of pressure washed carcass... ...at best.
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The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.
However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.
And you hope lamb is not goat. I had a bad reaction to some "lamb" in Fuertaventura (thats not how you spell it - the island that sounds like VauxhallVentura), fortunately there was a biduet, so when I chundered and shat myself at the same time, it was less messy than it could have been ;D
Although, I doubt that was a reaction to goat, as I suspect I've eaten bucketloads of Billy, and it was just good old fashioned food poisioning
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Still hasn't got it has he...! ;D
"Choice" by definition, has not one jot to do with it. Its a beef product, and to consume it means eating horse. This is not part of the deal.
Therefor its not a question of choice, but a question of lying, cheating and deception in the name of profiteering.
Think of it like PPI from the financial industry. ....we have been conned (again) except this time by the food industry.
And it's not on!
sounds more like a vauxhall dealership :o :o
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I don't think it's the horse meat that's a problem, although it would be nice to now exactly what we're eating, it's the Bute that they give the horses that can cause serious problems for humans
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The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.
However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.
And you hope lamb is not goat. I had a bad reaction to some "lamb" in Fuertaventura (thats not how you spell it - the island that sounds like VauxhallVentura), fortunately there was a biduet, so when I chundered and shat myself at the same time, it was less messy than it could have been ;D
Although, I doubt that was a reaction to goat, as I suspect I've eaten bucketloads of Billy, and it was just good old fashioned food poisioning
Oh goody, my favourite, the last word game. ;D
Now, if you read carefully you'll see the point was to Bionoc, who has completely missed the point... Do you see my point...? :)
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whats the point ??? ::) :D
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whats the point ??? ::) :D
Quite do my dear Watson. :D
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whats the point ??? ::) :D
Quite do my dear Watson. :D
I get the point that someone else does not get the point, so I get the point so should they get the point; now does everyone now get the point? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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whats the point ??? ::) :D
Quite do my dear Watson. :D
I get the point that someone else does not get the point, so I get the point so should they get the point; now does everyone now get the point? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
nope, forgotten. :D
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Just eaten two lovely 100% horse burgers, that,s right 100% horse with none of that added beef shit yum yum. :y :y
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Apparently,Bute has now been found in U.K. produced horse meat and has made its way into processed food.
The FSA said a few days ago that it had closed the Yorkshire factory it raided.The factory said today that the FSA are talking bollix,and it is operating as normal.
Wtf use is this quango if it was clueless when we were having Bute infused horse meat mixed into food produced in the U.K. and also imported in from several other countries ?
It looks suspiciously like this will be exposed as something that is being done on a large scale all over Europe and the U.K. and has been going on for a long time.
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Apparently,Bute has now been found in U.K. produced horse meat and has made its way into processed food.
The FSA said a few days ago that it had closed the Yorkshire factory it raided.The factory said today that the FSA are talking bollix,and it is operating as normal.
Wtf use is this quango if it was clueless when we were having Bute infused horse meat mixed into food produced in the U.K. and also imported in from several other countries ?
It looks suspiciously like this will be exposed as something that is being done on a large scale all over Europe and the U.K. and has been going on for a long time.
I feel sure about that :y :y :y
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I bet UKIP are outraged, and could have foreseen it when Labour and the coalition couldn't.
I feel so outraged over it all. Not.
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I bet UKIP are outraged, and could have foreseen it when Labour and the coalition couldn't.
I feel so outraged over it all. Not.
Outraged of Mayfair Brackley not making an appearance today then TuBy?
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A properly run FSA should have known.Its the reason they exist,to police this sort of thing. Might as well get rid and save ourselves however many millions it costs us for them to push their pens.
Labour and the coalition have been in government for 16 years between them,so yes they are responsible. Would UKIP have made sure the FSA was run effectively and therefore spotted the problems ? Thats something that you or I could only specualte on.
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so ukip have no position on the horse meat scandle? ???
not much of a party if thats thew case. :(
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so ukip have no position on the horse meet scandle? ???
not much of a party if thats thew case. :(
Can't beat custard :y
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so ukip have no position on the horse meet scandle? ???
not much of a party if thats thew case. :(
Ive never been to that meet. Where do you hold it?
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so ukip have no position on the horse meet scandle? ???
not much of a party if thats thew case. :(
Ive never been to that meet. Where do you hold it?
your not invited, pervert!
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I am not a pervert. I am a heterobihomosexual person.
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The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.
However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.
And you hope lamb is not goat. I had a bad reaction to some "lamb" in Fuertaventura (thats not how you spell it - the island that sounds like VauxhallVentura), fortunately there was a biduet, so when I chundered and shat myself at the same time, it was less messy than it could have been ;D
Although, I doubt that was a reaction to goat, as I suspect I've eaten bucketloads of Billy, and it was just good old fashioned food poisioning
:o :o :o :o :o :o
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I am not a pervert. I am a heterobihomosexual person.
HOUSE! ;D
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so ukip have no position on the horse meat scandle? ??? not much of a party if thats thew case. :(
Didnt say that.The conversation was about what UKIP would hypothetically do if they were currently in govt.
http://www.selbytimes.co.uk/news/business/mep-claims-government-playing-health-games-with-uk-citizens-following-horse-meat-scandal-1-5404618
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/72144/ukip_horse_meat_scandal_shows_single_market_is_a_danger_to_food_chain.html
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Just eaten two lovely 100% horse burgers, that,s right 100% horse with none of that added beef shit yum yum. :y :y
what did you have for dessert...........a couple of sugar lumps neeeey
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Look, cretins, just send me all your unwanted processed food. It will be fine once curried.
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How many times have we all said.... " I'm so hungry I could eat a horse " ;D
Little did we know..... ::)
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Ay up! The wife told me she was cooking a burger for me tonight.
I said, "That's champion".
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2013/02/14/horsemeat-scandal-abattoir-took-grand-national-carcasses-from-aintree-racecourse-100252-32806545/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2013/02/14/horsemeat-scandal-abattoir-took-grand-national-carcasses-from-aintree-racecourse-100252-32806545/)
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How many times have we all said.... " I'm so hungry I could eat a horse " ;D
Little did we know..... ::)
your da man was just about to write that 8) 8) :y
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How many times have we all said.... " I'm so hungry I could eat a horse " ;D
Little did we know..... ::)
your da man was just about to write that 8) 8) :y
Great minds think alike Lovelength! :)
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I have ordered horse in france, it was loverly,
however how do we know what antibiotics or painkillers were injected into dobbin before it ended up in mince?
the whole problem isnt horse meat, its tracability,
did dobbin die from old age or was it in prime condition?
something like 70,000 horses are un accounted for in paddyland.
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So far today Whitbread (pubs) and Lancashire County Council (schools) have found Neddy in their meals.
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Sainsburys and Iceland...no Neddy. ;D
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I'm kinda concerned ???
I'm thinking of having Roast Beef on Sunday. Is it ok to have Horseradish ? Could it have "bute" in it ? Does horseradish come from France ? Do they make lasagne from it ?
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I'm kinda concerned ???
I'm thinking of having Roast Beef on Sunday. Is it ok to have Horseradish ? Could it have "bute" in it ? Does horseradish come from France ? Do they make lasagne from it ?
Splash it all over :D :D
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That bute supposed to be good for arthritis , didnt cure me :(
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Horse goes into a bar.
Barman says "I'm sorry we don't serve food"
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(http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q750/steveavfc1/horse_zps45470f8d.jpg)
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From Charles Moore in the DT today:
"You will have heard a lot about horse meat recently. Yet you almost certainly will not have heard of Regulation (EC) No 178/2002. But the regulation discloses the key fact about this scandal. Supported by Tony Blair’s government, Regulation 178 transferred responsibility for food safety from each member state to the EU. It set up the European Food Safety Agency. So the British Government is no longer responsible for the safety of the food that Britons eat."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9873325/David-Camerons-lonely-ministers-have-been-abandoned-by-Downing-St.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9873325/David-Camerons-lonely-ministers-have-been-abandoned-by-Downing-St.html)
How widely reported has it been the the EU is now in charge of our food safety? It hasn't, which just goes to show how pro-EU most of the MSM are! >:( >:( >:( >:(
This explains why the FSA made 7000 quality testers redundant about 12 months a go, so they no longer have any food testing facilities. Wherever you can a concentration of Government power it always fails the people, be it the EU or the NHS, when are the populous ever going to learn this lesson. This is why over time after impoverishing the people, the EUSSR will fail! >:( >:( >:( >:(
It is urgent that we get out of this mess by leaving the EU, vote UKIP.
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Ay up! The wife told me she was cooking a burger for me tonight.
I said, "That's champion".
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2013/02/14/horsemeat-scandal-abattoir-took-grand-national-carcasses-from-aintree-racecourse-100252-32806545/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2013/02/14/horsemeat-scandal-abattoir-took-grand-national-carcasses-from-aintree-racecourse-100252-32806545/)
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Someone picked up on that . . . . ;D ;D
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02483/170213-MATT-ST-web_2483363a.gif
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So this year when you go to the National, you can bet on a horse and if it doesnt win, eat him later from the burger van! Now that is recycling in action! ;D ;D