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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: jerry on 14 February 2013, 20:05:28
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OK, its an Astra estate-but it looks a lot better than the old models. Anyhow, weve decided that our beloved Estima, which is now 20 yrs old, should be retired and weve gone for a motability option and Vauxhall seem to have a wider range of models on the scheme than others and were looking at the new sports tourer as still need space for wheelchair etc. The 2 models with no advance payment are the 1.6 petrol or the 2.0 cdi sri diesel. The choice between these two seems a bit of a no-brainer, but has anyone any experience/views on the diesel model?
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Saw the estate the other day. Looks good.
I like the new 3 door Astra too btw. Looks almost Alpha Romeo. :y
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All our area managers have the 2.0 dti and they all seem quite happy
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Certainly looks good and space wise its fine plus its quite low in comparison to our current Estima or the astra hatchback so easier to get wheelchair in/out. Mpg will be better too and performance looks ok , just read that it doesnt score too highly on reliability ?
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Depends what driving you do, if a lot of town/urban then dont get a diesel from any manufacturer.
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Depends what driving you do, if a lot of town/urban then dont get a diesel from any manufacturer.
Sad really,diesel used to be a good choice for short stop start runs,they've buggered that up now with Dpf's >:(
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How ridiculous.
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Depends what driving you do, if a lot of town/urban then dont get a diesel from any manufacturer.
I'm filling up my DPF as we speak :(
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Depends what driving you do, if a lot of town/urban then dont get a diesel from any manufacturer.
I'm filling up my DPF as we speak :(
Had to goggle that "Diesel Particulate Filter" DPFs reduce diesel soot emissions by 80% .
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Depends what driving you do, if a lot of town/urban then dont get a diesel from any manufacturer.
I'm filling up my DPF as we speak :(
Had to goggle that "Diesel Particulate Filter" DPFs reduce diesel soot emissions by 80% .
Stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea.
Either a petrol engined gas guzzler or a diesel for towing. :-\
Taken a gamble on a diesel in the hope that towing will compensate for the town work.
Mr DTM will probably rubbish that idea.
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The costs of a dpf filter or two, four injectors and a fuel pump, not to mention the extra purchase cost and the price difference of the actual fuel actually add up to an awfully large amount of petrol :y
Petrol EVERY time :y
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Have you considered a 2.2 petrol Omega? ::) :-X
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Have you considered a 2.2 petrol Omega? ::) :-X
:P
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Both the 2.2 & 2.6 were underpowered for towing.
The 2.6 only marginaly better, but a lot thirstier.
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Both the 2.2 & 2.6 were underpowered for towing.
The 2.6 only marginaly better, but a lot thirstier.
Must admit I found my 2.5 elite a bit of a struggle towing,needed a lot of revs to do anything meaningful ,the 3.0 signum I have now would pull it in half :y
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Both the 2.2 & 2.6 were underpowered for towing.
The 2.6 only marginaly better, but a lot thirstier.
Must admit I found my 2.5 elite a bit of a struggle towing,needed a lot of revs to do anything meaningful ,the 3.0 signum I have now would pull it in half :y
Yup, down to about 7 mpg on hills.
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Both the 2.2 & 2.6 were underpowered for towing.
The 2.6 only marginaly better, but a lot thirstier.
Must admit I found my 2.5 elite a bit of a struggle towing,needed a lot of revs to do anything meaningful ,the 3.0 signum I have now would pull it in half :y
Yup, down to about 7 mpg on hills.
I averaged 16mpg over a 200 mile trip with it once towing t"van,my V8 Disco does better although it is manual and doesn't realise the van is behind it :D
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Both the 2.2 & 2.6 were underpowered for towing.
The 2.6 only marginaly better, but a lot thirstier.
Must admit I found my 2.5 elite a bit of a struggle towing,needed a lot of revs to do anything meaningful ,the 3.0 signum I have now would pull it in half :y
Yup, down to about 7 mpg on hills.
I averaged 16mpg over a 200 mile trip with it once towing t"van,my V8 Disco does better although it is manual and doesn't realise the van is behind it :D
I managed about 18 mpg on a trip to France last year, driving very, very steady :(
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Both the 2.2 & 2.6 were underpowered for towing.
The 2.6 only marginaly better, but a lot thirstier.
Must admit I found my 2.5 elite a bit of a struggle towing,needed a lot of revs to do anything meaningful ,the 3.0 signum I have now would pull it in half :y
Yup, down to about 7 mpg on hills.
I averaged 16mpg over a 200 mile trip with it once towing t"van,my V8 Disco does better although it is manual and doesn't realise the van is behind it :D
I managed about 18 mpg on a trip to France last year, driving very, very steady :(
I think mine being an Elite estate didn't help matters much,about the heaviest version before hitch up :-X
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the other downside with a new diesel nowdays is that you need to be covering a minimum of 15k miles a year to offset the price differance because of the price of fuel as well.
saw diesel 11p a litre more than petrol at one garage today
keith B
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I've never had a diesel, then I considered having a diesel, now I've decided I'll never have a diesel. ;D
I hardly ever travel further than two miles. :-[
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Which means, of course, that I could have a really thirsty petrol. ::)
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It was because the Estima was a diesel that was a big factor in us getting her 10 years ago. With 4 teenage kids between us we needed a bigger car than the old Sierra we had and we'd hired an Estima for a holiday and liked it so much that we set about importing one (the UK Previa version was petrol only). On long journeys she was quite economical but more recently she's only been doing fairly short runs and as people have said, that isnt economical, even for an older diesel. In fact its even cheaper to use the Omega (a 2.5v6 petrol) than the 2.2 turbo diesel in the EStima for my work journey and thats a daily 50mile round trip with very little "urban" driving. I guess that if I currently put in about £55 a week in the omega in petrol then the 2.0 Cdi astra should be around £40 a week in diesel?
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Using your figures, that's 40 litres of petrol against 27litres of diesel, giving a saving of £15 per week, or £780 per year. The question you need to consider is whether the new Astra will cost you less than £780 per year :-\
I suspect the answer is 'No', so better of sticking to the petrol Omega :y