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Title: Eastleigh
Post by: STMO123 on 01 March 2013, 06:45:19
UKIP force the conservatives into third. :)
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Auto Addict on 01 March 2013, 07:12:12
Worrying, if that follows on at the next General Election, Labour will get in by the back door. :-\
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: albitz on 01 March 2013, 07:15:29
 :) :) :) 8) Onward & upward.
If it helps Labour,Camoron will only have himself to blame.He has changed the Tories into a social democratic party,much like the other two.It doesnt make a huge difference which one of the three big parties are in govt. as theres very little difference between any of them.
Another couple of results like this one and Camoron will be out of a job.The Tories can be utterly ruthless in removing leaders who they believe will lose them an election. ;)
Personally,I believe that the Tories have even less chance of winning the next election than they did the last one. A lib/lab coalition is the most likely result,and thats the worst of all worlds.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: STMO123 on 01 March 2013, 07:37:47
:) :) :) 8) Onward & upward.
If it helps Labour,Camoron will only have himself to blame.He has changed the Tories into a social democratic party,much like the other two.It doesnt make a huge difference which one of the three big parties are in govt. as theres very little difference between any of them.
Another couple of results like this one and Camoron will be out of a job.The Tories can be utterly ruthless in removing leaders who they believe will lose them an election. ;)
Personally,I believe that the Tories have even less chance of winning the next election than they did the last one. A lib/lab coalition is the most likely result,and thats the worst of all worlds.
Nick Clegg could end up being the longest serving deputy prime minister in history.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: mantahatch on 01 March 2013, 09:08:45
Well I tried, as a family we all voted the same way. At the risk of sounding smug I said the liberals would win. This area is full of idiots.
Caught a bit of a bbc program last night broadcast from Eastleigh I believe. And one idiot stated live on TV that he wished he vote for huhne, that is the mentality of the majority of people round here.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 01 March 2013, 10:44:23
Going by the coverage on the news, miserable turn out given the interest by all parties.
Disinterested electorate. As said, we are becoming Japanese.

Pro eu liberals winning can't be good for ukip.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 01 March 2013, 10:57:03
Going by the coverage on the news, miserable turn out given the interest by all parties.
Disinterested electorate. As said, we are becoming Japanese.

Pro eu liberals winning can't be good for ukip.

Apparently, the Libs won on postal votes...on-the-day votes went the way of Ukip. ;)

Fair point about the turnout, although by-elections are notoriously low.

All-in-all, a cracking performance by Ukip!  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 01 March 2013, 11:02:22
Tory deputy chairman Sarah Newton has come out with the spin to end all by-election spin:

“It is good for the Coalition that the Coalition was able to retain the seat.”

How stupid is that comment?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Terbs on 01 March 2013, 11:23:55
I switched the news on a few minutes ago, and to be quite honest, I was sick at the crap the Cons, Libs and Labs were coming out with.

All the spin they could muster, plus trying to belittle UKIP. The Lib Dems only won by 1700 votes. Oh...if only UKIP could have got that extra vote. The news today would have been electrifying.

The 'main' parties have been snubbed, but they won't be men and admit it.

I just saw one incident at a gathering outside the hall, and the crowd snubbed the Lib Dem chap ;D ;D ;D

Its just scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen...'Nick Clegg says the Lib Dem win is a stunning victory against the odds !!!!!! How the hell does he work that out ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Rods2 on 01 March 2013, 13:48:11
We are seeing a change not just in the UK but if Italy is anything to go by with other EU countries, where the Eurosceptic party took 20% of the vote and the EU stooge party lead my Mario Monti getting less than 10%.

The full implementation of the Libon treaty comes into effect on 1st January 2014, where qualified majority voting applies to many new areas. Once it is in the news that the UK is isolated and outvoted on major issues that will have even more major effects on UK governance on a daily and weekly basis and will continue to have a bigger and bigger effect on our daily lives, people will start to realise what many of us have seen for a long time, the the UK Parliament is little more than a town council when it comes to real powers, where they just nod through rafts of new left-wing eco-green anti-competitive EU clap trap, sorry Directives. The closing of our coal fired power stations, insurance equality and interference in employer-employee contracts in private companies over the bankers bonuses are just a few current issues. This is all going to play into UKIP's hands with an increased vote at the next General Election.

With the EU out of jealousy determined to kill London as Europe's financial centre, the vote this week is just the start in making EU laws to make all EU countries uncompetitive for global banks, that they will have no choice but to start relocating their headquarters and trading centres elsewhere. There must be a lot of very happy people in Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai and New York this week, knowing that much new business is heading in their direction. My guess will be that HSBC will be the first major bank to change its headquarters to Hong Kong. Let us also not forget that the ineffective tripartite regulation of Banks by the FSA, BOE and Treasury was forced upon the UK by the EU as part of the EU wide liberalization of financial services and common compliance rules. Much like the horse meat scandal again the EU have created another very bureaucratic system that in reality just doesn't work.

Where this country is so reliant on financial services, this will just continue to diminish our economy as a percentage of the worlds economy, with the smallest loser currently in Europe being Germany and therefore the continued rise of German Hegemony.

I think with the growing momentum of UKIP and if Italy anything to go by, where the Beppo party increasing rather than diminishing their percentage of votes at their recent national elections, I think the same will apply to UKIP. In Eastleigh UKIP took 14% of the votes off both the Lib Dems and the Conservatives.

Personally, where we had a step change in the political landscape just over 100 years a go with the emergence of the Labour party, I think the same is happening with UKIP as they are the only right of centre party left in our politics. The LibLabCons are all left of centre parties these days, which shows how far they have drifted to the left, much of this through socialism by the backdoor EU directives. UKIP only stands where the Conservative party did in the 1980's where they used to be a right of centre party.

There are many people in the North of England who will never vote Conservative over what happened to the old nationalised industries, particularly coal mining and the effects this has had on all manufacturing in what used to be our industrial heartland. I think what happened with UKIP getting second places in elections earlier in the year, will be repeated, so don't be surprised if the first UKIP MP is in a northern constituency.

The big loser in this new order will be the Conservatives, who will become a fringe party after 2015, much like the Liberals became just after the WWI with Labour being the major beneficiaries. The Liberal party has never recovered and I don't think the Conservatives ever will either.

Just ask yourself the simple question, what is the point of the Conservative party in its current form? If you want socialism vote for the real thing Labour, if your want eco-socialism vote LimpDems, if your want a right of centre party nationalist party then it is UKIP.

Instead of David Cameron just dismissing UKIP coming second as a protest vote, he should be asking the question, where he has moved the Conservatives to a hairs-width of the Labour party, what is the point of the Conservatives? The simple answer is that there isn't any that I can see and that is his challenge and as somebody with no principals and vision apart from wanting power, his focus groups aren't going to give him the answers. He has driven the Conservative party artic into an electoral Cul de sac where there is no reverse gear or place to turn around.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Rog on 01 March 2013, 13:57:47


Its just scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen...'Nick Clegg says the Lib Dem win is a stunning victory against the odds !!!!!! How the hell does he work that out ??? ??? ???

I wondered about that. A "stunning victory" in which they lost 20% of their votes  ???
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: tigers_gonads on 01 March 2013, 17:39:35


Its just scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen...'Nick Clegg says the Lib Dem win is a stunning victory against the odds !!!!!! How the hell does he work that out ??? ??? ???

I wondered about that. A "stunning victory" in which they lost 20% of their votes  ???


Because he is a cock thats why  :D :D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: cleggy on 01 March 2013, 18:36:31


Its just scrolled across the bottom of the TV screen...'Nick Clegg says the Lib Dem win is a stunning victory against the odds !!!!!! How the hell does he work that out ??? ??? ???

I wondered about that. A "stunning victory" in which they lost 20% of their votes  ???


Because he is a cock thats why  :D :D

Sexist! I prefer the female form ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: omega3000 on 01 March 2013, 18:48:59
Well done UKIP  :)

Interestingly ...

David Bishop (Elvis Loves Pets) 72 (0.17%)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: footloose on 01 March 2013, 18:59:29
Keep it up UKIP.
Though, coming second is not good enough Must do better.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Terbs on 01 March 2013, 19:12:24
To be honest, I get really mad, as I said before....the total bullsh1te coming out of the mouths of the ConLibLab mouths.
Do they not still get it in their thick heads, that this is precisely why the public are so anti politics ::)
I really, really, hope this UKIP trend continues, and in the local and Europe elections, they give the opposition the biggest kick up the arris they have ever known :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: cleggy on 01 March 2013, 19:15:30
I for one have joined UKIP  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 01 March 2013, 20:09:01
To be honest, I get really mad, as I said before....the total bullsh1te coming out of the mouths of the ConLibLab mouths.
Do they not still get it in their thick heads, that this is precisely why the public are so anti politics ::)
I really, really, hope this UKIP trend continues, and in the local and Europe elections, they give the opposition the biggest kick up the arris they have ever known :y

It's been that way so long I can't remember. Sick of the sound, and site if the whole poxy lot of em. It doesn't take a genius to succeed in the face of such pathetic competition.

How on earth do such an inbred useless bunch of mongrels manage to gather all in one place? Because that have no use whatsoever in any other walk of life. So what do we do with them? I know, let them run the country.

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: TheBoy on 01 March 2013, 21:47:44
by elections are always the king of the protest vote. And rightly so. Shake up the big boys, albeit briefly.

Our favourite one policy party have failed where, frankly, they should have slaughtered.

I guess, the only good news from this is that its unlikely our favourite one policy party will ever become a true force to be reckoned with :)
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 01 March 2013, 21:57:22
by elections are always the king of the protest vote. And rightly so. Shake up the big boys, albeit briefly.

Our favourite one policy party have failed where, frankly, they should have slaughtered.

I guess, the only good news from this is that its unlikely our favourite one policy party will ever become a true force to be reckoned with :)


 ::) ::) ::) ::)

http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies?p=1 (http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies?p=1)
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: TheBoy on 01 March 2013, 22:02:42
by elections are always the king of the protest vote. And rightly so. Shake up the big boys, albeit briefly.

Our favourite one policy party have failed where, frankly, they should have slaughtered.

I guess, the only good news from this is that its unlikely our favourite one policy party will ever become a true force to be reckoned with :)


 ::) ::) ::) ::)

http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies?p=1 (http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies?p=1)
We all know it. You'd have to be pretty brainwashed not to see it. But then UKIP does have a fanatical following  :-X

Although to become more electable, they have had to, on paper anyway, tone down their one policy.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Jukeboxnut on 02 March 2013, 18:03:43
I too have joined UKIP and hope that this is the start of common sense coming into politics (albeit about 40 years too late).

Having said that I still have a soft spot for the Monster Raving Loonies as I really have an inherent distrust of all politicians!
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: innarightestate on 02 March 2013, 19:39:08
my wife and i are joining ukip hopefully get this country out of  the e.u as well :y :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: albitz on 02 March 2013, 23:35:49
Every party but the Limpdems got it badly wrong in Eastleigh imo.The Lipmdems should have taken a real kicking after what their Eastliegh MP has been up to.There is also the fact that Clegg has been caught lying through his teeth over the sex scandal issue.
The postal votes were done & dusted before that story broke,so that was probably a huge stroke of luck for them.
The Tories local office hardly bothered to mount a campaign.The local party,like many local Tory organisations all over the country,is in a coma.Life long members are deserting them in their droves,they have given up in despair after seeing their party hijacked by a bunch of social democrat spivs,just like Labour was hijacked in the 90,s. Apathy is the order of the day.
Labour - Millipedes script supplied by the spin doctors is all about "one nation Labour".This is the type of seat he should have been expecting to do well in if he is to have any credibilty as a one nation party leader,but he has spent his life in a cocoon of left wing politics since the day he was born,and has absolutely no connection with life on planet earth whatsoever.He wouldnt have had a clue how important it could be to him to do well in a seat such as this,and his strategists must have picked the wrong focus group for this one.
UKIP- missed a great chance although Nige doesnt want to admit it.If he had stood for election himself,I have little doubt he would have won comfortably.And we would have had the enormous pleasure of seeing him berating,and tying in knots,Cameron,Clegg and Millipede rather than Van Rumpoy,Burroso etc. What a shame. :(
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 02 March 2013, 23:54:55
UKIP- missed a great chance although Nige doesnt want to admit it.If he had stood for election himself,I have little doubt he would have won comfortably.And we would have had the enormous pleasure of seeing him berating,and tying in knots,Cameron,Clegg and Millipede rather than Van Rumpoy,Burroso etc. What a shame. :(

I'm not so sure Albs. At the end of the day 13,342 half-wits voted for the LimpDems in a constituency that is LimpDem controlled. If Nigel had failed — even by one vote — UKIP, and Nigel himself (having already failed to be elected as an MP) would have been wounded..perhaps fatally. As it is, UKIP has much to tried to proud of and has been forced to the forefront of UK politics. Onwards and upwards. :y :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Entwood on 02 March 2013, 23:58:20
UKIP- missed a great chance although Nige doesnt want to admit it.If he had stood for election himself,I have little doubt he would have won comfortably.And we would have had the enormous pleasure of seeing him berating,and tying in knots,Cameron,Clegg and Millipede rather than Van Rumpoy,Burroso etc. What a shame. :(

I'm not so sure Albs. At the end of the day 13,342 half-wits voted for the LimpDems in a constituency that is LimpDem controlled. If Nigel had failed — even by one vote — UKIP, and Nigel himself (having already failed to be elected as an MP) would have been wounded..perhaps fatally. As it is, UKIP has much to tried to proud of and has been forced to the forefront of UK politics. Onwards and upwards. :y :y

So what you mean is ... his £140,000 a year salary (as an MEP) is more important (to him) than actually making a stand for what he "says" he believes in ???

Until he stands down as an MEP and stands as an MP he is nothing more than a hypocrite IMHO, no less self serving and two-faced than the others you constantly berate :)
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: ozzycat on 03 March 2013, 00:06:35
sorry for this but i think all mps whichever party they belong to are lying 2 faced morons
no offence to any body but thats my thoughts
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 03 March 2013, 00:13:08
UKIP- missed a great chance although Nige doesnt want to admit it.If he had stood for election himself,I have little doubt he would have won comfortably.And we would have had the enormous pleasure of seeing him berating,and tying in knots,Cameron,Clegg and Millipede rather than Van Rumpoy,Burroso etc. What a shame. :(

I'm not so sure Albs. At the end of the day 13,342 half-wits voted for the LimpDems in a constituency that is LimpDem controlled. If Nigel had failed — even by one vote — UKIP, and Nigel himself (having already failed to be elected as an MP) would have been wounded..perhaps fatally. As it is, UKIP has much to tried to proud of and has been forced to the forefront of UK politics. Onwards and upwards. :y :y

So what you mean is ... his £140,000 a year salary (as an MEP) is more important (to him) than actually making a stand for what he "says" he believes in ???

Until he stands down as an MEP and stands as an MP he is nothing more than a hypocrite IMHO, no less self serving and two-faced than the others you constantly berate :)

With respect, that's a fatuous argument, IMHO. For a start, he was elected by his constituents as MEP for SE England and, to that extent, he has a moral duty to represent them in Brussels. Secondly, many of his speeches in the EU parliament have gone viral, giving much greater prominence to UKIP's views than would otherwise have been the case. Thirdly, there is no reason at all to expect him to renounce his EU salary. Given the constant travelling to the EU, speaking engagements abroad and in the UK, his workload is far higher than any SW1 MP.

I can see no reason to accuse him of being either two-faced or self-serving.. but you are entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 00:33:20
Sorry, hang on a minute.

Have I misunderstood here somewhere? The saviour of the eurosceptics, the super hero of all things anti eu, the wonder boy of anti....well everything actually, is a poxy mep himself?
 The same ilk of all those rants we've had to suffer from Nickbat about how much mep's earn. How utterly useless they are. Bleeding the coffers dry and doing bog all for it?

The exact same as Lord Kinock? And others I can't remember. That have suffered the abuse of oofs politics clique for years. Milking the cash cow that is EU.

....this Mep is the LEADER of ukip? Are you F@***** well joking or what ? ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 00:36:43
AND if that wasn't enough, your bloody defending him... ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 00:48:44
Well, it must really be the height of hypocracy that it appears to be as the politics clique have all cleared off back under their respective rocks. ;D pmsl ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: ozzycat on 03 March 2013, 04:33:33
like i said chris they are all tarred with the same brush hypocrits the rather lot of them
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: TheBoy on 03 March 2013, 09:19:39
sorry for this but i think all mps whichever party they belong to are lying 2 faced morons
no offence to any body but thats my thoughts
Bang on :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 03 March 2013, 09:25:13
Sorry, hang on a minute.

Have I misunderstood here somewhere? The saviour of the eurosceptics, the super hero of all things anti eu, the wonder boy of anti....well everything actually, is a poxy mep himself?
 The same ilk of all those rants we've had to suffer from Nickbat about how much mep's earn. How utterly useless they are. Bleeding the coffers dry and doing bog all for it?

The exact same as Lord Kinock? And others I can't remember. That have suffered the abuse of oofs politics clique for years. Milking the cash cow that is EU.

....this Mep is the LEADER of ukip? Are you F@***** well joking or what ? ;D

Nigel Farage is an elected MEP. Would you rather have a Labour MEP in his place..or maybe a europhile Tory? I, for one, am pleased we have a eurosceptic in the EU Parliament.

The exact same as Kinnock? Are you having a laugh? Kinnock is an unelected jobs-for-the-boys Commissioner – NOT an elected MEP.  ::) ::)

 
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 09:35:51
Sorry, hang on a minute.

Have I misunderstood here somewhere? The saviour of the eurosceptics, the super hero of all things anti eu, the wonder boy of anti....well everything actually, is a poxy mep himself?
 The same ilk of all those rants we've had to suffer from Nickbat about how much mep's earn. How utterly useless they are. Bleeding the coffers dry and doing bog all for it?

The exact same as Lord Kinock? And others I can't remember. That have suffered the abuse of oofs politics clique for years. Milking the cash cow that is EU.

....this Mep is the LEADER of ukip? Are you F@***** well joking or what ? ;D

Nigel Farage is an elected MEP. Would you rather have a Labour MEP in his place..or maybe a europhile Tory? I, for one, am pleased we have a eurosceptic in the EU Parliament.

The exact same as Kinnock? Are you having a laugh? Kinnock is an unelected jobs-for-the-boys Commissioner – NOT an elected MEP.  ::) ::)

 
Pure unadulterated hypocracy of the highest order. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 09:37:01
And actually, yes, I am pmsl. ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 03 March 2013, 10:47:16
And actually, yes, I am pmsl. ;D

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 10:48:54
And actually, yes, I am pmsl. ;D

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

In simple terms, this is extremely funny. ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 03 March 2013, 10:51:56
And actually, yes, I am pmsl. ;D

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

In simple terms, this is extremely funny. ;D

What is? You've lost me entirely.  ???
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 11:04:22
And actually, yes, I am pmsl. ;D

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

In simple terms, this is extremely funny. ;D

What is? You've lost me entirely.  ???
Of that Nick, there is no doubt what so ever. ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Terbs on 03 March 2013, 11:22:57
I think Chris is on the 'happy pills', Nick ;D :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 11:27:26
I think Chris is on the 'happy pills', Nick ;D :y
This way better than any medication Terbs. Way better. Where's Esta, he needs cheering up. ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Terbs on 03 March 2013, 11:30:30
I think Chris is on the 'happy pills', Nick ;D :y
This way better than any medication Terbs. Way better. Where's Esta, he needs cheering up. ;D

Mattress cleaning :y
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: ozzycat on 03 March 2013, 13:56:08
I think Chris is on the 'happy pills', Nick ;D :y
This way better than any medication Terbs. Way better. Where's Esta, he needs cheering up. ;D

Mattress cleaning :y
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Rods2 on 03 March 2013, 17:46:54
sorry for this but i think all mps whichever party they belong to are lying 2 faced morons
no offence to any body but thats my thoughts
Bang on :y

There are a very few exceptions to this John Redwood, Bill Cash and Frank Fields as MP's which is 3 out of 650 which come to mind, and they are all at the bottom of the list in what they claim in expenses. so less than 0.5%. There is also Lord Tebbit in the House of Lords.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Rods2 on 03 March 2013, 18:10:07
Sorry, hang on a minute.

Have I misunderstood here somewhere? The saviour of the eurosceptics, the super hero of all things anti eu, the wonder boy of anti....well everything actually, is a poxy mep himself?
 The same ilk of all those rants we've had to suffer from Nickbat about how much mep's earn. How utterly useless they are. Bleeding the coffers dry and doing bog all for it?

The exact same as Lord Kinock? And others I can't remember. That have suffered the abuse of oofs politics clique for years. Milking the cash cow that is EU.

....this Mep is the LEADER of ukip? Are you F@***** well joking or what ? ;D

Nigel Farage is an elected MEP. Would you rather have a Labour MEP in his place..or maybe a europhile Tory? I, for one, am pleased we have a eurosceptic in the EU Parliament.

The exact same as Kinnock? Are you having a laugh? Kinnock is an unelected jobs-for-the-boys Commissioner – NOT an elected MEP.  ::) ::)

 
Pure unadulterated hypocracy of the highest order. Unbelievable.

Never heard of the saying, hold your friends close, your enemies closer then?

Nigel Farage has been very effective in putting his parties Eurosceptic views across in the EU parliament and has had numerous fines for doing so. Without a meaningful platform how would he put his views across and oppose legislation against the UKs interest and also to appear all around the world as an MEP spreading UKIP's views.

He is very well received in the US where people are shocked that 80% of our laws are made by foreign powers. Where most people in the US used to view the EU as just a trading block. He asks the question, where the US, Canada and Mexico have their own trading block, how would Americans feel if Canada and Mexico and the rest of South America were the biggest force in deciding 80% of US laws? Where about 50% of Americans have a small government libertarian attitude there is no way they would put up with such a situation.

UKIP find it difficult to get their views heard in the UK, but you must understand that the BBC gets funding from the EU, so why the surprise?

UKIP are expected to have the biggest number of MEPs after the 2014 elections. With the rise of Eurosceptic parties in Italy, Greece and the Netherlands so far hopefully they will be a significant block in the Euro Parliament.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: albitz on 03 March 2013, 18:31:42
And David Davis is one I would add to that list. :y

UKIP MEP,s,in association with like minded MEP,s from other EU countries are the opposition in the EU parliament.Every parliament surely needs an opposition.If there was no-one in Brussels to swim against the tide,stand up for those who disagree with most of what takes place there,well it doesnt bear thinking about.Things are bad enough now,but with no-one to oppose whats happening from within we would be already be as enslaved as the citizens of the old USSR.
UKIP and those they have built a broad alliance with in Europe make no secret of,or apoligies for the fact that they want to destroy the whole undemocratic edifice from within.
For anyone who has a genuine interest (as opposed to those who seem determined to terminally poison OOF by constant bitching at other members,because they wish to force them to post only what they want them to) here are a few examples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSYMpuCFaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT2YC1gim8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSYMpuCFaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUzEKrp8rHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evHrkZM33H8
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: STMO123 on 03 March 2013, 18:34:23
It's only Gixer, Albs. He knows eff all about eff all. ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 18:35:05
Blah blah, here we go, hypocrites justifying hypocrites behaviour. Sorry Rods I don't buy it. Regardless of yours or my views on anything related of not. How can anyone give credence to a man milking 140k as an mep, while he refuses a seat in the House of Parliament to prove his point because he'll loose his eu wages?

The man is part of the very problem he stands against! Weather yours mine or his views are centre, left, right wing, one thing stands above all else. HYPOCRITE!

I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, as TB would say, and I barely attended school. But even I can see how brain bendingly stupid this is. I don't expect the ukip clique to agree, and admit the stupidity of the situation, that would involve common sense.

Ever heard the phrase "for evil hypocrites to prevail, good men need do nothing" ...?

The guy is full of crap, a con man with more BS than Findus.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Nickbat on 03 March 2013, 18:37:59
Blah blah, here we go, hypocrites justifying hypocrites behaviour. Sorry Rods I don't buy it. Regardless of yours or my views on anything related of not. How can anyone give credence to a man milking 140k as an mep, while he refuses a seat in the House of Parliament to prove his point because he'll loose his eu wages?

The man is part of the very problem he stands against! Weather yours mine or his views are centre, left, right wing, one thing stands above all else. HYPOCRITE!

I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, as TB would say, and I barely attended school. But even I can see how brain bendingly stupid this is. I don't expect the ukip clique to agree, and admit the stupidity of the situation, that would involve common sense.

Ever heard the phrase "for evil hypocrites to prevail, good men need do nothing" ...?

The guy is full of crap, a con man with more BS than Findus.

He's been offered a seat in the HoC, then?

Why wasn't I informed of this?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 18:42:28
And David Davis is one I would add to that list. :y

UKIP MEP,s,in association with like minded MEP,s from other EU countries are the opposition in the EU parliament.Every parliament surely needs an opposition.If there was no-one in Brussels to swim against the tide,stand up for those who disagree with most of what takes place there,well it doesnt bear thinking about.Things are bad enough now,but with no-one to oppose whats happening from within we would be already be as enslaved as the citizens of the old USSR.
UKIP and those they have built a broad alliance with in Europe make no secret of,or apoligies for the fact that they want to destroy the whole undemocratic edifice from within.
For anyone who has a genuine interest (as opposed to those who seem determined to terminally poison OOF by constant bitching at other members,because they wish to force them to post only what they want them to) here are a few examples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSYMpuCFaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT2YC1gim8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSYMpuCFaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUzEKrp8rHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evHrkZM33H8

Ah, the pikey mentality at work at last. Behave as unruley and deceptive as you possibly can, then blame every one else for your own behaviour. The raging hypocrisy goes on and on.
 If ever there was a subject that ndermines the very foundations of OOF and what it was started for, this is it. And it's always the same members that, those that accuse the place of being clique in the first place, that start the subject every time.

Kick off, cry foul, and blame those you've upset as the culprits.
 
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 18:45:42
Blah blah, here we go, hypocrites justifying hypocrites behaviour. Sorry Rods I don't buy it. Regardless of yours or my views on anything related of not. How can anyone give credence to a man milking 140k as an mep, while he refuses a seat in the House of Parliament to prove his point because he'll loose his eu wages?

The man is part of the very problem he stands against! Weather yours mine or his views are centre, left, right wing, one thing stands above all else. HYPOCRITE!

I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, as TB would say, and I barely attended school. But even I can see how brain bendingly stupid this is. I don't expect the ukip clique to agree, and admit the stupidity of the situation, that would involve common sense.

Ever heard the phrase "for evil hypocrites to prevail, good men need do nothing" ...?

The guy is full of crap, a con man with more BS than Findus.

He's been offered a seat in the HoC, then?

Why wasn't I informed of this?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
He could of stood for the Easteigh seat himself. But no, that would cost him his precious eu wages. Hi might even have won.


Your right though. No idea about the subject. But since when did that stop the clique posting on something they have not the first clue about...? Knowledge has absolutely cock all to do with politics.
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: STMO123 on 03 March 2013, 18:46:31
Personally, I take everything on here with a pinch of salt. You'd have to be stupid to.......oh, it's Gixer, isn't it?
Try typing in your pink nightie and fishnet tights. It makes thing appear less serious ;)
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 18:50:17
Personally, I take everything on here with a pinch of salt. You'd have to be stupid to.......oh, it's Gixer, isn't it?
Try typing in your pink nightie and fishnet tights. It makes thing appear less serious ;)
In your dreams big boy. In your dreams. ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: Rods2 on 03 March 2013, 19:09:58
Blah blah, here we go, hypocrites justifying hypocrites behaviour. Sorry Rods I don't buy it. Regardless of yours or my views on anything related of not. How can anyone give credence to a man milking 140k as an mep, while he refuses a seat in the House of Parliament to prove his point because he'll loose his eu wages?

The man is part of the very problem he stands against! Weather yours mine or his views are centre, left, right wing, one thing stands above all else. HYPOCRITE!

I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, as TB would say, and I barely attended school. But even I can see how brain bendingly stupid this is. I don't expect the ukip clique to agree, and admit the stupidity of the situation, that would involve common sense.

Ever heard the phrase "for evil hypocrites to prevail, good men need do nothing" ...?

The guy is full of crap, a con man with more BS than Findus.

He's been offered a seat in the HoC, then?

Why wasn't I informed of this?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
He could of stood for the Easteigh seat himself. But no, that would cost him his precious eu wages. Hi might even have won.


Your right though. No idea about the subject. But since when did that stop the clique posting on something they have not the first clue about...? Knowledge has absolutely cock all to do with politics.

Rumour has it, where he goes to Germany to visit his wife's family, he does use winter tyres this time of year.  :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eastleigh
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 19:15:16
Blah blah, here we go, hypocrites justifying hypocrites behaviour. Sorry Rods I don't buy it. Regardless of yours or my views on anything related of not. How can anyone give credence to a man milking 140k as an mep, while he refuses a seat in the House of Parliament to prove his point because he'll loose his eu wages?

The man is part of the very problem he stands against! Weather yours mine or his views are centre, left, right wing, one thing stands above all else. HYPOCRITE!

I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, as TB would say, and I barely attended school. But even I can see how brain bendingly stupid this is. I don't expect the ukip clique to agree, and admit the stupidity of the situation, that would involve common sense.

Ever heard the phrase "for evil hypocrites to prevail, good men need do nothing" ...?

The guy is full of crap, a con man with more BS than Findus.

He's been offered a seat in the HoC, then?

Why wasn't I informed of this?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
He could of stood for the Easteigh seat himself. But no, that would cost him his precious eu wages. Hi might even have won.


Your right though. No idea about the subject. But since when did that stop the clique posting on something they have not the first clue about...? Knowledge has absolutely cock all to do with politics.

Rumour has it, where he goes to Germany to visit his wife's family, he does use winter tyres this time of year.  :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
He doesn't really does he! Even though he really should. ;D