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Title: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: Gaffers on 02 March 2013, 03:19:51
....a brand new Tesla! :o :o :o

A friend has been on the 4 year waiting list and just had it delivered today.  We took it for a spin and I have never seen anything like it.  It's like driving an iPad attached to a rocket while wearing ear plugs.  The first bash at WOT (I know) nearly snapped my neck!  0-60 in 4.2 all in silence....... I was gobsmacked!

Pics to follow :y
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: plym ian on 02 March 2013, 07:10:56
nice :y enjoy yourself and remember to give it back when you've finshed ;D
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Post by: feeutfo on 02 March 2013, 10:51:08
Wow, can you fit a speaker externally and play a v8 soundtrack? :-\ ;)


Look forward to the pics. :y
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Post by: plym ian on 02 March 2013, 12:44:00
Wow, can you fit a speaker externally and play a v8 soundtrack? :-\ ;)


Look forward to the pics. :y
he could do but the battery will drain quicker  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: TheBoy on 02 March 2013, 12:48:51
Driving like that, it'll only do 50-70 miles it appears. And from a 13A socket, take well over 24hrs to charge.

No personal experience, just what I've read.

Does, of course, mean electric - or battery powered electric - isn't yet anywhere near ready to be useful.
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 02 March 2013, 13:12:25
Driving like that, it'll only do 50-70 miles it appears. And from a 13A socket, take well over 24hrs to charge.

No personal experience, just what I've read.

Does, of course, mean electric - or battery powered electric - isn't yet anywhere near ready to be useful.

Just had a peek on their website, you could of course for nearly 2k bucks have a 4 hour fast charger  :y also i note it will cost you about £7 in leccy to charge it up  :o
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: BazaJT on 02 March 2013, 16:44:06
From what I've been told there are fast charging points on at least some motorway service areas where there is a Costa Coffee and if you buy a coffee from there you can plug in for a fast charge quite cheaply.I don't know what all this fast charging will do for the life expectancy of the batteries,but surely it can't be good for them can it?
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Post by: r1 on 02 March 2013, 17:14:48
From what I've been told there are fast charging points on at least some motorway service areas where there is a Costa Coffee and if you buy a coffee from there you can plug in for a fast charge quite cheaply.I don't know what all this fast charging will do for the life expectancy of the batteries,but surely it can't be good for them can it?

but do you own the batterys on this? as iam sure on some electric cars you ownly rent them
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: JesterRT on 02 March 2013, 17:56:03
You own them on the Tesla's.  Think it's Renault who are doing the 'leased' thing.

We had Tesla visit us at work a while ago, and I managed to grab a test drive of the Roadster just before they left.  It's an incredible bit of kit.  The battery range is, in the grand scheme of electric cars, pretty good (providing you don't hoon it *everywhere*).  It reminded me of a mates VX220 - in that it felt like a stripped out racer inside and you sit practically on the tarmac.  Quick prod of the accelerator (or is that potentiometer) and it's astonishingly quick - but it's the torque that gets you hooked.  It's a non-stop shove in the back.  No gear change, no lag, no tailing off of the power, just keeps going until you get too scared (which was pretty quickly on the small lanes round my office!)

If I had the cash - I'd be looking for something electric, or at least hybrid (to the point of the petrol/diesel engine generating the electricity, and not being connected to the wheels).

I'm off to Le Mans later this year with some mates.  Last year the Nissan Delta was the star of the show for me, this year we'll get to watch the first Hydrogen powered car at Le Mans.  Looks like an incredible bit of kit:

http://www.greengt.com/en/greengt-h2.php (http://www.greengt.com/en/greengt-h2.php)
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: Jukeboxnut on 02 March 2013, 18:08:30
Sorry but I still cannot get over the milk float image of any electric car (must be my age)!
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Post by: dbug on 02 March 2013, 18:29:21
Sorry but I still cannot get over the milk float image of any electric car (must be my age)!

(http://www.topnewstoday.org/i5/6/53/39/img_3639536_620.jpg)

The fastest ever milk float has been created by eBay Motor enthusiasts using only parts and fitments purchased on eBay.
The souped up milk float broke the Guinness World Record, reaching 77.53 mph (124.78 kph) at the Transport Research Laboratory.  ;)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 March 2013, 19:28:03
Sorry but I still cannot get over the milk float image of any electric car (must be my age)!

(http://www.topnewstoday.org/i5/6/53/39/img_3639536_620.jpg)

The fastest ever milk float has been created by eBay Motor enthusiasts using only parts and fitments purchased on eBay.
The souped up milk float broke the Guinness World Record, reaching 77.53 mph (124.78 kph) at the Transport Research Laboratory.  ;)

Is he called Ernie by any chance?  :)
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: Gaffers on 02 March 2013, 22:52:30
I must admit I was a little sceptical about these electric cars.  The lady who has bought this car is a bit(!) of  hippy.  She captures all her own water and generates most of her own electricity.  The range on this model with the intermediate batteries that she has is about 190-200 miles which on the island here is plenty.  There are free charging points in town as well with free parking so when you put that all together with the fact she pays for very little electricity it's a very good package.

A few official pics here, I'll get some of the actual car soon:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/gallery (http://www.teslamotors.com/models/gallery)
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: henryd on 03 March 2013, 00:05:49
I must admit I was a little sceptical about these electric cars.  The lady who has bought this car is a bit(!) of  hippy.  She captures all her own water and generates most of her own electricity.  The range on this model with the intermediate batteries that she has is about 190-200 miles which on the island here is plenty.  There are free charging points in town as well with free parking so when you put that all together with the fact she pays for very little electricity it's a very good package.

A few official pics here, I'll get some of the actual car soon:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/gallery (http://www.teslamotors.com/models/gallery)

Nice looking car :y
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Post by: pscocoa on 03 March 2013, 00:31:34
Clearly copied from Insignia ;D ;D
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 01:20:40
Nice. Looks like a Jag with a mazzarati nose to me. :)


I assumed it was the two sweater thing they had on top gear.
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: TheBoy on 03 March 2013, 08:57:52
I think its the one that Testla were slating one of the large American papers over, due to a poor review... 
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Post by: Lazydocker on 03 March 2013, 11:00:23
Never thought I'd say it, but I quite like the look of that :o :o
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Post by: aaronjb on 03 March 2013, 11:17:30
I think its the one that Testla were slating one of the large American papers over, due to a poor review...

That would be the review that went something along the lines of "OMG, Tesla left me stranded because it doesn't go very far!!!!!!!1!1oneone!" .. and when Tesla reviewed all the ECU logging it had been deliberately undercharged and, then, when the displayed range read "31 miles" the reviewer tried to drive it 60-odd - it konked out at 50-something ;D (range display about as accurate as the Omega, then)

If anyone is having trouble sleeping, reading this should solve that: http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive


We had Tesla visit us at work a while ago, and I managed to grab a test drive of the Roadster just before they left.  It's an incredible bit of kit.  The battery range is, in the grand scheme of electric cars, pretty good (providing you don't hoon it *everywhere*).  It reminded me of a mates VX220 - in that it felt like a stripped out racer inside and you sit practically on the tarmac.

It should, because it basically is.. the Roadster is, IIRC, essentially a slightly stretched Lotus Elise - and the VX220 was basically an Elise with different clothes on (even made in the same factory AFAIK)..
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: Del Boy on 03 March 2013, 12:31:24
Looks like a Vauxhall to me. That'd make a nice new Omega with the right engines ;). Very good looking car.
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 03 March 2013, 18:46:03
Looks like a Vauxhall to me. That'd make a nice new Omega with the right engines ;). Very good looking car.

Actually this is the vx effort

http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vehicles/vauxhall-range/cars/ampera/index.html

25-50 miles on the battery  :o :o

I think i could do better with a couple of leisure batteries and a washing machine motor  ;D

Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: Gaffers on 03 March 2013, 20:02:52
I have been looking in to this and the results are quite interesting.

Ok, some bad bits.  No spare wheel, not supplied with run flats.  Cannot be towed.  That combo seems daft to me.  The key doesn not have a keyring on it so it sits separate to your key bunch which could mean you loose the key more easily.

Cost $90k ish (depending on battery pack and trim)  :o

However, when you look at the tax breaks for installing solar and wind (several $10k's) and the cost of petrol over here (it may be cheaper but Americans drive everywhere and thus use more of it) it appears on the face of it a very good investment.  A typical family here can spend $500/m on petrol!  Over 5 years that's $30k so if your car is being recharged with mostly renewables I mus say this is making me open my eyes.

I will ask my friend to keep a track of costs and savings.

Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: jerry on 03 March 2013, 20:48:15
might just be me, but whilst electric cars may be "cleaner/greener" than traditional petrol/diesel vehicles as individual cars, surely,as a concept, they are not much better in as much that they use electricity that is still produced from depleting and non-"green" origin?  The technology to harness wind/solar/wave power to produce the amount of electricity nations such as ourselves consume is still many years away and, from what I understand, the current position is for the UK to invest further in nuclear generated electricity? If every car on our roads was to be electric, how much extra demand would that make on our electricity producers? And how "green" are the battery units? Probably just me being ignorant so just asking. as for the car itself, well certainly looks OK but nothing really special TBH and styling is much like so many more. Guess the driving experience would be pretty wierd though, not least the quietness of it all :-\
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Post by: tidla on 03 March 2013, 21:05:56
Nearly got run over this evening on the way to the pub by one of those damned fangled electric  machines. If it hadn't been for the squeak of the brakes and the fact i was going the pub then tidla might well have been joining the land where hedgehogs go to.
Title: Re: Next week I will mostly be driving.....
Post by: TheBoy on 03 March 2013, 21:44:56
That would be the review that went something along the lines of "OMG, Tesla left me stranded because it doesn't go very far!!!!!!!1!1oneone!" .. and when Tesla reviewed all the ECU logging it had been deliberately undercharged and, then, when the displayed range read "31 miles" the reviewer tried to drive it 60-odd - it konked out at 50-something ;D (range display about as accurate as the Omega, then)

If anyone is having trouble sleeping, reading this should solve that: http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive
Actually, I think the review was accurate, but Tesla have a reputation for doing hammer and tong at any publication who doesn't do a glowing report.

The journo said he went into town (Detroit IIRC) for lunch. And charged it for longer than what Tesla said he would need to to complete the journey, and this was confirmed by the onboard range meter.


/Found it - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/automobiles/stalled-on-the-ev-highway.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&