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Title: Leveson
Post by: Nickbat on 18 March 2013, 14:42:58
Goodbye press freedom. >:( >:(

Remember that there are existing laws against all the nasty practices that some of the press got up to, but this measure will, in my mind, have serious consequences for freedom of speech. Remember, too, that it was the press that revealed the MPs expenses scandal. Can't see that happening again in the future...not now we're governed by Hugh Grant.  >:( >:(   
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: cleggy on 18 March 2013, 15:00:47
Hugh Grant needs freaking with the rough end of a pineapple :o
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Entwood on 18 March 2013, 15:11:54
Interesting comments... as Cameron was the one that held out and STOPPED Clegg/Milliband from even more draconian restrictions.

But never let the truth get in the way of a good rant .. :)
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 March 2013, 15:17:50
Interesting comments... as Cameron was the one that held out and STOPPED Clegg/Milliband from even more draconian restrictions.

But never let the truth get in the way of a good rant .. :)

Commentators, who were obviously "the press" this morning said this was a "muddled agreement", that newspapers do not have to sign up to. That apparently is the flaw that politicians across all parties have managed to create.

Newspapers could apparently be fined more for any breaches when not signed up to this agreement, but could still legally go down that route! ::) ::) ::) ::)

So in all a shambles!! >:( >:(

I can see much legal wrangling ahead ::)
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Entwood on 18 March 2013, 15:29:18
Interesting comments... as Cameron was the one that held out and STOPPED Clegg/Milliband from even more draconian restrictions.

But never let the truth get in the way of a good rant .. :)

Commentators, who were obviously "the press" this morning said this was a "muddled agreement", that newspapers do not have to sign up to. That apparently is the flaw that politicians across all parties have managed to create.

Newspapers could apparently be fined more for any breaches when not signed up to this agreement, but could still legally go down that route! ::) ::) ::) ::)

So in all a shambles!! >:( >:(

Nope ..IMHO :) 

Freedom to sign up or not, with freedom comes responsibility , if they are not responsible, then huge fines.

The Royal Commission will "police" that responsibility.

The fines are enforceable even if they don't "sign up" to the agreement.

Clegg/Milliband wanted a proscribed system that dictated what (and what not) the Press could do..... but who knows what the future will bring ??  If a similar law passed 20 years ago had said "MP's Finances are Private and cannot be investigated" the expenses scandal would have remained hidden
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 March 2013, 15:55:41
We shall see ;)
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: STMO123 on 18 March 2013, 15:55:50
I can't comment as I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago. If I want hard news, I have a multitude of channels on sky. If I want tittle-tattle, I can read the wife's mags.
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: pscocoa on 18 March 2013, 16:00:23
I can't comment as I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago. If I want hard news, I have a multitude of channels on sky. If I want tittle-tattle, I can read the wife's mags.

We all follow you on "titter"
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: STMO123 on 18 March 2013, 16:03:02
I can't comment as I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago. If I want hard news, I have a multitude of channels on sky. If I want tittle-tattle, I can read the wife's mags.

We all follow you on "titter"
Fraid you've got me there  ???
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: pscocoa on 18 March 2013, 16:08:48
After years of being an FT and Times reader - I, like STEMO, stopped buying papers 3 to 5 years ago. My wife buys the Sunday Times now and then and I very rarely even read that - even the motor section has gone downhill. Everything I need comes from web research, books and general news.

People are always starting conversations saying did you read about.... it is always something I have picked up already off general news -ok maybe I need to get out more as well.

Yes, the media is far more than newspapers but most of it is simply a turn off - the academic stuff is generally great. If would want to follow celebs, gossip, kiss and  tell - keep buying the tabloids


Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Nickbat on 18 March 2013, 16:12:03
Interesting comments... as Cameron was the one that held out and STOPPED Clegg/Milliband from even more draconian restrictions.

But never let the truth get in the way of a good rant .. :)

Don't think I mention Cameron did I?  ???

 You're reading things into my post that are simply not there. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Nickbat on 18 March 2013, 16:14:46
I can't comment as I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago. If I want hard news, I have a multitude of channels on sky. If I want tittle-tattle, I can read the wife's mags.

It's not just about newspapers, it applies to news-driven websites & blogs, too. >:( >:(
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: STMO123 on 18 March 2013, 16:20:32
I can't comment as I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago. If I want hard news, I have a multitude of channels on sky. If I want tittle-tattle, I can read the wife's mags.

It's not just about newspapers, it applies to news-driven websites & blogs, too. >:( >:(
It's the beeb and sky for me, Nick. You've got too much time on your hands. You'd make a good MEP. ;D
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Nickbat on 18 March 2013, 16:29:28
I can't comment as I stopped buying newspapers about three years ago. If I want hard news, I have a multitude of channels on sky. If I want tittle-tattle, I can read the wife's mags.

It's not just about newspapers, it applies to news-driven websites & blogs, too. >:( >:(
It's the beeb and sky for me, Nick. You've got too much time on your hands. You'd make a good MEP. ;D

Steve, I don't think the BBC is exactly a paragon of virtue and honesty!!

The BBC has apologised 'unreservedly' for a Newsnight report which led to Conservative peer Lord McAlpine being wrongly linked to ...
BBC apologises for correspondent's disclosure of Queen comment ...
The BBC has apologised after an episode of the Tweenies featuring a character dressed as Jimmy Savile was broadcast on CBeebies...
BBC apologises to chief rabbi over on-air Gaza question...
The BBC has apologised for broadcasting documentaries made by a television company that was paid millions of pounds by PR clients and corrupt regimes...
The BBC will make an on-screen apology to fashion chain Primark after a report found it was ''more likely than not'' that it included faked...

 ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: STMO123 on 18 March 2013, 16:41:01
I know all that, Nick. But I like to think that I am intelligent and savvy enough to work out what's going on. Besides, I sometimes think we were a bit happier when we didn't know what was occuring in Somalia. ::)
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Nickbat on 18 March 2013, 16:45:57
I know all that, Nick. But I like to think that I am intelligent and savvy enough to work out what's going on. Besides, I sometimes think we were a bit happier when we didn't know what was occuring in Somalia. ::)

I find it hard to disagree with that, Steve. :y
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: Nickbat on 21 March 2013, 18:52:06
Now "Hacked Off" (i.e. Hugh Grant et al) say there was an accidental mistake in the Leveson Bill negotiations and that the punitive press damages was not meant to affect bloggers and small publishers. Might be too late, now. >:(

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/03/hacked-off-says-press-damages-plan-is-a-mistake/ (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/03/hacked-off-says-press-damages-plan-is-a-mistake/)

That sort of thing is bound to happen when an unnecessary bill is drafted by three political parties and a celebrity pressure group at 2am. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Leveson
Post by: cleggy on 21 March 2013, 19:37:39
I repeat Hugh Grant needs freakin' with the rough end of a pineapple. >:( >:( along with Max Mosely >:( ;D

Why oh why do these so called celebrities think they can do what they like and the rest of us shouldn't know about it. These pr*c*s are an insult to the people who were the real victims of the press. Press freedom is paramount if responsible, just think of the things we wouldn't know about, MP's expenses for one ETC ETC ETC.