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A few days ago everything was fine, then bending down to take something out of the oven my back went. Agonising sharp pain at base of my spine to the right. For the past few days I've been taking ibuprofen 400mg tablets, applied deep heat, tried one of those support belt things and swmbo has one of those cushions that massage you so tried that as well.
Yesterday I thought I had got over the worst, was able to bend slowly and walk like I hadn't messed myself, until I leaned forward to pick a plate up and it went again :'( I only leaned over a couple of inches!!
This morning I can barely move, took me ages to get out of bed, every movement caused excruciating pain. Nearly in tears with the pain, haven't felt anything like it.
Doctors surgery isnt open til monday. Is it worth a visit to hospital ( assuming I can actually get there!) don't know that they can do much for sore backs?
What's worrying me is that swmbo is 8 months pregnant, and in this state I can't help her should anything happen.
Any advice on what this could be or anything that might ease the pain would be greatly appreciated. :y
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sounds like you have slipped a disc mate :'( can you get doctor to call out to you? or try nhs hotline?
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Possibly. Just kinda think " it's back pain, Dr wouldn't be too impressed at a house call for a sore back"
Swmbo is at work just now, if its still as bad when she returns this aft I think in try get to hospital.
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Don't ignore it! You have my deepest sympathies mate :'( I did mine lifting the teapot! :-[
Bit of advice... You can take paracetamol as well as ibuprofen as they are different drugs and work together as a cumulative effect. If you are going to sit, dining chair not sofa... Both feet on the floor, no crossed legs etc.
Rest and pain relief is all they will prescribe at present... But if you suffer pins and needles, loss of feeling or coldness in any part of the body you need to visit A&E urgently!
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Deep heat is the wrong thing to use.....so dont use that.
If you go to A&E they wont actually do anything, except maybe confirm you've slipped a disc.
BUT what they should do,, is prescribe you much stronger painkillers :y
Last time i slipped a disc, thats what my docs did for me, 5x stronger painkillers than you can buy over the counter :y with instructions to keep moving about to stop DVT.
Ive slipped quite a few discs over the years, so when it does happen, i usually wait a week or so to see if it will go back in on its own. If it does, good :y If it doesnt, then i goto an osteopath, who with heat gently massages it back in over a few sessions. If you fancy pain goto a physiotherapist who ime puts it back in using force ;D
Plus are you sure your quacks are open on Monday......thats a BH too :-\
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Didn't know that about the paracetamol, thanks for that :y
It does ease slightly when I sit straight rather than on the couch. So bloody frustrating not being able to move >:(
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Cheers taxi driver :y and I forgot about the docs being closed Monday. Bugger.
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Deep heat is the wrong thing to use.....so dont use that.
My physio was constantly bollocking me for using the car's heated seats, and having several scaldingly hot baths a day... ...for me it offered relief, but apparently does more damage than good.
He said ice packs should be used instead...
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Deep heat is the wrong thing to use.....so dont use that.
My physio was constantly bollocking me for using the car's heated seats, and having several scaldingly hot baths a day... ...for me it offered relief, but apparently does more damage than good.
He said ice packs should be used instead...
I got the same :-[ ::)
Deep Freeze is quite good
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Deep heat is the wrong thing to use.....so dont use that.
My physio was constantly bollocking me for using the car's heated seats, and having several scaldingly hot baths a day... ...for me it offered relief, but apparently does more damage than good.
He said ice packs should be used instead...
I got the same :-[ ::)
Deep Freeze is quite good
I guess thats because the angle of the back is wrong when applying heat (making the muscles relax) . But lying face down applying heat is a good thing. Best buy a snorkel TB ;D ;D
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Deep heat is the wrong thing to use.....so dont use that.
My physio was constantly bollocking me for using the car's heated seats, and having several scaldingly hot baths a day... ...for me it offered relief, but apparently does more damage than good.
He said ice packs should be used instead...
I got the same :-[ ::)
Deep Freeze is quite good
I guess thats because the angle of the back is wrong when applying heat (making the muscles relax) . But lying face down applying heat is a good thing. Best buy a snorkel TB ;D ;D
My laptop would get wet ;D
No prizes for guessing where I am right now ;D
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Must be the cleanest shadow on this great big ball of fluff ;D
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Don't ignore it! You have my deepest sympathies mate :'( I did mine lifting the teapot! :-[
Bit of advice... You can take paracetamol as well as ibuprofen as they are different drugs and work together as a cumulative effect. If you are going to sit, dining chair not sofa... Both feet on the floor, no crossed legs etc.
Rest and pain relief is all they will prescribe at present... But if you suffer pins and needles, loss of feeling or coldness in any part of the body you need to visit A&E urgently!
Sorry for hijacking your thread cam I suffer with back problems myself and it really is horrible, good physio and painkillers is best advice. Just out of curiosity whats the reason for this advice LD, haven't been able to get my feet warm in weeks
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You have my Abject Sympathies too cam :(
You can now get Prescription strength Voltarol tablets over the Chemists counter, these are muscle relaxants and will provide you with some interim pain relief along with the usual painkillers (there's a misnomer if ever there was one! ::)) there is also a Voltarol Gel available but this is not as strong or as effective as the tablets. As said, get yourself to the Doctors as soon as practicable, and if your pain becomes unbearable in the meantime, then you have the option of telephoning the Emergency Doctor on Call, he/she should give you an intravenous Voltarol injection which gives immediate pain relief :y
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Does the pain also go down either leg or buttock (bum to you and me)?
If so it could be sciatica and it aint nice :'(
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Don't ignore it! You have my deepest sympathies mate :'( I did mine lifting the teapot! :-[
Bit of advice... You can take paracetamol as well as ibuprofen as they are different drugs and work together as a cumulative effect. If you are going to sit, dining chair not sofa... Both feet on the floor, no crossed legs etc.
Rest and pain relief is all they will prescribe at present... But if you suffer pins and needles, loss of feeling or coldness in any part of the body you need to visit A&E urgently!
Sorry for hijacking your thread cam I suffer with back problems myself and it really is horrible, good physio and painkillers is best advice. Just out of curiosity whats the reason for this advice LD, haven't been able to get my feet warm in weeks
It's a symptom of a circulatory problem ;)
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Cheers LD, as I said I haven't been able to get my feet warmed in weeks, even in the bath they are still freezing and I'm getting pins and needles in them as well. I've apt made with GP but its not till next thurs, I was putting it down to another side effect of my accident!! Do you really think it could be urgent though?
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Cheers LD, as I said I haven't been able to get my feet warmed in weeks, even in the bath they are still freezing and I'm getting pins and needles in them as well. I've apt made with GP but its not till next thurs, I was putting it down to another side effect of my accident!! Do you really think it could be urgent though?
Could be, might be nothing to worry about. Best bet is to call the GP / out of hours service and seek advice
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Ime, with DDD, degenerative disc disorder, the discs dry out and start to collapse. The severity varies between individuals, and 75% of the population have it to some extent.
Spasms, (extreme pain) can result. Usually passes into a constant dull ache within a week. Pain killers and tens machine seem to be the only things that work for me for the spasms. Dull ache has to be lived with.
Thing is, finding out what causes your particular issues. As Diagnosing someone else's cure is dodgy.
But if its a spasm, you should be able to feel the muscle that's painful and force it to relax. Not by massage so much, but squeezing it, pressing on it, and generally forcing the blood out of the muscle that's causing the agro.
If its nerve based, its a case of finding a comfortable position and paying a professional to free off the skeletal structure that's out if position, once the pain dies down a little.
Hth somehow.
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You have my sympathies.
Last time my back went into spasms on the lower left side, I was just walking across the lounge and jolted it very slightly. :o :o :o
I swear by my office chair that exactly fits the curvature of my spine as this seems to really rest the muscles in my back. When my back is very bad, I find it helps to sleep in this rather than my bed! :-[ :-[ :-[
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Its only pain, it goes away eventually.
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
Not helped by the fact its almost unprovable in many cases, so some of the lame and lazy swing the lead a bit.
But it is only pain :P
And I do feel qualified enough to say that :-[
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Was up at the after hour doctor at 11.30 last night, he says he doesn't think I've slipped a disc, probably just pulled or strained a muscle. Gave me Dicloflex tablets and Co-dydramol. Says I've to consult my doctor in 3 or 4 days if pain persists. :(
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id take a trip down to a&e mate to be on the safe side you dont want to be incapacitated when the baby comes along it would be heartbreaking if you couldnt pick him / her up
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The nurse up there gave me a bit of sleeping advice which helped. I normally fall asleep on my stomach, she said that puts added pressure on my back and to try sleep in the recovery position, with one knee as high up towards my chest as possible. It worked! :y
Didn't feel any strain at all in that position. Was quite surprised I was able to nod off in that position though, usually I HAVE to be face down.
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The nurse up there gave me a bit of sleeping advice which helped. I normally fall asleep on my stomach, she said that puts added pressure on my back and to try sleep in the recovery position, with one knee as high up towards my chest as possible. It worked! :y
Didn't feel any strain at all in that position. Was quite surprised I was able to nod off in that position though, usually I HAVE to be face down.
Being a bit of an insomniac, I tend to be a fidget arse, so end up eventually dropping off in all sorts of contorted positions, which probably doesn't help my back.
So I shall attempt to try this advice :y
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The nurse up there gave me a bit of sleeping advice which helped. I normally fall asleep on my stomach, she said that puts added pressure on my back and to try sleep in the recovery position, with one knee as high up towards my chest as possible. It worked! :y
Didn't feel any strain at all in that position. Was quite surprised I was able to nod off in that position though, usually I HAVE to be face down.
Being a bit of an insomniac, I tend to be a fidget arse, so end up eventually dropping off in all sorts of contorted positions, which probably doesn't help my back.
So I shall attempt to try this advice :y
Whatever you do don't fall asleep on on top of your good lady wife before the sexual act is completed. They don't like it. ::) ::) ;)
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A few days ago everything was fine, then bending down to take something out of the oven my back went. Agonising sharp pain at base of my spine to the right. For the past few days I've been taking ibuprofen 400mg tablets, applied deep heat, tried one of those support belt things and swmbo has one of those cushions that massage you so tried that as well.
Yesterday I thought I had got over the worst, was able to bend slowly and walk like I hadn't messed myself, until I leaned forward to pick a plate up and it went again :'( I only leaned over a couple of inches!!
This morning I can barely move, took me ages to get out of bed, every movement caused excruciating pain. Nearly in tears with the pain, haven't felt anything like it.
Doctors surgery isnt open til monday. Is it worth a visit to hospital ( assuming I can actually get there!) don't know that they can do much for sore backs?
What's worrying me is that swmbo is 8 months pregnant, and in this state I can't help her should anything happen.
Any advice on what this could be or anything that might ease the pain would be greatly appreciated. :y
i use tramadol for mine they do the trick .only take them when my back goes . you can put your back out putting a coffee on a low table . i did not funny at all :y :y
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Deep heat is the wrong thing to use.....so dont use that.
My physio was constantly bollocking me for using the car's heated seats, and having several scaldingly hot baths a day... ...for me it offered relief, but apparently does more damage than good.
He said ice packs should be used instead...
I got the same :-[ ::)
Deep Freeze is quite good
use the cream not the spray it makes you jump :y :y
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
i dont think so :y :y
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
Nope , i can vouch for the pain . No pain killers work in my case , not even morphine so back to the surgeon :(
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
Nope , i can vouch for the pain . No pain killers work in my case , not even morphine so back to the surgeon :(
not that far yet :y :y
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I have a compacted disc (L3) due to an accident 18 years ago. Had 18 months of debilitating spasm's, sciatica, unable to walk sometimes. Once brought on by bending down to pick up some socks :-[
The physio explained that once the lower back muscles have spasmed (to protect the spine supposedly) the muscles are severely damaged and do take a long time to recover. Each spasm or even twinge resets the clock, if you know what I mean
Had tens, manipulation, massage, stretching, all-sorts. Ibuprofen, paracetamol and codeine taken like sweeties, until GP told me to slow down as I was getting bad liver function results.
All this was to no avail until as a last resort physio tried acupuncture. Within about six weeks saw a massive improvement and did not have another spasm until about 10 yrs later. Since then have a 3 monthly double session with no (touch wood) spasms since.
Also go swimming at least once a week which hurts but I think helps strengthen the muscles
HTH
Phil
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The nurse up there gave me a bit of sleeping advice which helped. I normally fall asleep on my stomach, she said that puts added pressure on my back and to try sleep in the recovery position, with one knee as high up towards my chest as possible. It worked! :y
Didn't feel any strain at all in that position. Was quite surprised I was able to nod off in that position though, usually I HAVE to be face down.
Being a bit of an insomniac, I tend to be a fidget arse, so end up eventually dropping off in all sorts of contorted positions, which probably doesn't help my back.
So I shall attempt to try this advice :y
Whatever you do don't fall asleep on on top of your good lady wife before the sexual act is completed. They don't like it. ::) ::) ;)
;D ;D ;D
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
:( Been there and done that, when you daren't sneeze because it hurts to much and you can't put on your socks :( only consolation is that it will get better, don't be shy of going to the walk in centre at the local hospital . When you get sorted you might want to think about changing your posture- bend the knees and not the back !
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Back pain is often seen as a joke by others. It isn't. :-\
:( Been there and done that, when you daren't sneeze because it hurts to much and you can't put on your socks :( only consolation is that it will get better, don't be shy of going to the walk in centre at the local hospital . When you get sorted you might want to think about changing your posture- bend the knees and not the back !
that's ok for people who can bend their knees , if i done that i would be stuck . and in agony for weeks.
:y :y :y
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Osteopath mate is your answer :y
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Osteopath mate is your answer :y
What's the difference between an Osteopath and a Chiropractor? :-\
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Osteopath mate is your answer :y
What's the difference between an Osteopath and a Chiropractor? :-\
about £50 i would use an osteopath but not a Chiropractor one did me a lot of damage
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Osteopath mate is your answer :y
What's the difference between an Osteopath and a Chiropractor? :-\
about £50 i would use an osteopath but not a Chiropractor one did me a lot of damage
In which case you must have the proof to sue ;) Sorry to hear that by the way!
I visited a very good chiropractor and he did me some good but was fighting a losing battle. The acupuncture he did was better for me in the short term.
Osteopath will do similar treatment but less "violently"
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The nurse up there gave me a bit of sleeping advice which helped. I normally fall asleep on my stomach, she said that puts added pressure on my back and to try sleep in the recovery position, with one knee as high up towards my chest as possible. It worked! :y
Didn't feel any strain at all in that position. Was quite surprised I was able to nod off in that position though, usually I HAVE to be face down.
Being a bit of an insomniac, I tend to be a fidget arse, so end up eventually dropping off in all sorts of contorted positions, which probably doesn't help my back.
So I shall attempt to try this advice :y
Whatever you do don't fall asleep on on top of your good lady wife before the sexual act is completed. They don't like it. ::) ::) ;)
The only sexual act nowadays is having a nice cup of tea....
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Pain is in the mind. Well, brain. Thus I think personal outlook can have a bearing on what you can and can't do.
Once my scan results came through, I gave myself a good talking to, and feel an order of magnitude better, which has given me a different outlook on my capabilities. OK, I'm still not back to the capability levels I was at pre-accident, both pain levels/stamina/fitness levels, but I sure as hell am not the cripple I was 3 months ago.
But pain is there for a reason. Its an image created by the brain to protect its host from damage, so we need to take it into account that maybe, but no always, we are asking too much from a damaged part of the body. Its for this reason, I don't believe it should be suppressed if at all possible. Hence, I rarely take medication, and use my "its only pain, it will go away" attitude.
Those who know me know I'm a bit gay with medication anyway. Half an asprin, I'm out like a light. Even those mild 500mg painkillers the quack gives me, I have to have by 7pm if I need to drive at 8am the next day. Those ones that Mrs TB used to have, she made me pop one when I chewed tarmac on the Kwaka (I probably should have gone to A&E, but I have a natural distrust of the medical profession), well, I was 'dangle berries'ed. I prefer the pain to the effects of the medication, but then I think I had a pretty high pain threshold anyway... ...except banging cold fingers for some reason, then I'm a girl ;D
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Pain is in the mind. Well, brain. Thus I think personal outlook can have a bearing on what you can and can't do.
Once my scan results came through, I gave myself a good talking to, and feel an order of magnitude better, which has given me a different outlook on my capabilities. OK, I'm still not back to the capability levels I was at pre-accident, both pain levels/stamina/fitness levels, but I sure as hell am not the cripple I was 3 months ago.
But pain is there for a reason. Its an image created by the brain to protect its host from damage, so we need to take it into account that maybe, but no always, we are asking too much from a damaged part of the body. Its for this reason, I don't believe it should be suppressed if at all possible. Hence, I rarely take medication, and use my "its only pain, it will go away" attitude.
Those who know me know I'm a bit gay with medication anyway. Half an asprin, I'm out like a light. Even those mild 500mg painkillers the quack gives me, I have to have by 7pm if I need to drive at 8am the next day. Those ones that Mrs TB used to have, she made me pop one when I chewed tarmac on the Kwaka (I probably should have gone to A&E, but I have a natural distrust of the medical profession), well, I was 'dangle berries'ed. I prefer the pain to the effects of the medication, but then I think I had a pretty high pain threshold anyway... ...except banging cold fingers for some reason, then I'm a girl ;D
I had similar thoughts about taking any kind of drugs , i dont think they do your internals any good at all :( But ive been in agony for nearly 12 months now and got to the point where i could not stand the pain any more , give me what you got doc ffs is where its at now so he gave me morphine and no relief ::) Back on tramadol and high dose of other stuff for now but the pain dont go away . My back went 3 yrs ago trying to wash my hair in the sink :( Scrambled under the car a few weeks back trying to look at the starter motor when my back went , absolute agony and stuck under the car for ten minutes while the pain died down :(
Mind you coming off the zx12 didnt help and being in a car crash either ... mite as well throw me on the scrap heap now ::) ;D
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Osteopath mate is your answer :y
What's the difference between an Osteopath and a Chiropractor? :-\
about £50 i would use an osteopath but not a Chiropractor one did me a lot of damage
In which case you must have the proof to sue ;) Sorry to hear that by the way!
I visited a very good chiropractor and he did me some good but was fighting a losing battle. The acupuncture he did was better for me in the short term.
Osteopath will do similar treatment but less "violently"
Went to one for about three months. The result after my bank account had been emptied was Zero.....Zilch ......Nowt......SFA.
Maybe they help in the same way as a placebo or a faith healer.
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Maybe they help in the same way as a placebo or a faith healer.
Thats my view of things like acupuncture etc. But if it works for an individual, who cares :y
But clearly, won't work for everyone.
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I think that chiropractor/osteopath/physio/acupuncture, all these things will work for some but not others and work better for different problems. I've seen tons of all these types of specialists in the past yr and haven't found any that work for me this time but in the past they have. Everyone I've met has recommended a different specialist and sworn by them, i.e if this guy cant fix you then no-one can but I'm still not fixed. I too hate taking medication but its at the point where I'm happily taking whatever they give me just to ease the pain although I am worried about whats doing to my internals. At the minute my prescribed medication is 50mg tramadol, 500mg co-codamol and 25mg zomig migraine tabs which I take when required. Sometimes I have to take 2 of each.
The problem I have is that the medication only cures the pain and not the cause of it. The body is like anything else and runs on processes so there has to be something else wrong somewhere which is causing me to have constant headaches and migraines but they dont seem to want to find out what this is and keep pumping me with meds to kill the pain. Rant over!!
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I'm not a fan of medication, but have to take it to function in any way near normally ::) I have cut mine down to morning (to give some relief to get up and get ready for the day) and night (to try and get a couple of hours sleep!)
If I manage to sleep 2-3 hours without waking up in pain I've had a good night :o
But at least I'm far enough down the line that I should be getting treatment in the next 6 months which will be the last thing that can be done... If it doesn't work (and it's possible it will make things worse :o :o) then I'm stuck with it :'(
I find that a gentle walk, although painful, means that I am getting some exercise and stops me going stir crazy ::) Most frustrating thing is not being able to do the work I always used to do but, thankfully, I have made some good friends through this forum who have stepped in and helped out :y :y
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Maybe they help in the same way as a placebo or a faith healer.
Thats my view of things like acupuncture etc. But if it works for an individual, who cares :y
But clearly, won't work for everyone.
acupuncture worked for my back muscle pain. I was in a cycle whereby the back would spasm and damage the muscle further to the point where I could hardly walk. The doc gave me three weekly sessions of acupuncture which broke this cycle and I was running again in 3 weeks :y
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i use oxynorm and matrafin which are fenytal patches witch take the edge off my nerve pain but the whitdrawal symptoms are horrendous if your late changing the patches
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Having suffered with back pain for many years, I finally tried acupuncture about 2 years ago and I have to say the result was amazing. The pain relief was virtually instantaneous and after regular sessions I am almost as flexible as I was 40 years ago.
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I never beleived in acupuncture...
Till I watched it performed on Laura, you could see it work!
Shocked didnt start to describe it...Im now a firm beleiver - for the right thing.
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I never beleived in acupuncture...
Till I watched it performed on Laura, you could see it work!
Shocked didnt start to describe it...Im now a firm beleiver - for the right thing.
Agreed, I was the biggest sceptic until I experienced it. But I do believe that or some things it is very worthwhile whereas for other problems it is pure codswallop
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Well the pain has subsided, able to sit down and stand up with just the tiniest of twinges now rather than the red hot poker pain of a couple of days ago. Not back at work til Friday so hopefully by then i should be back to normal. Taking it easy until then though so fingers crossed.
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Well the pain has subsided, able to sit down and stand up with just the tiniest of twinges now rather than the red hot poker pain of a couple of days ago. Not back at work til Friday so hopefully by then i should be back to normal. Taking it easy until then though so fingers crossed.
Thats good news, but manage it carefully. Take it easy and dont do anything to set it off again. Once the muscle's are damaged they spasm for the smallest of reasons.
Get some form of lumbar support, there are plenty about. I eventually settled on a leather weight lifters type belt. When I feel my back straining I use it for a couple of days, while working, and it seems to help.
HTH
phil