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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: wedge on 12 April 2013, 18:26:32

Title: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: wedge on 12 April 2013, 18:26:32: hi all

i've just had a local garage change my knackered alternator for a working £30 used one

i haven't had the bill yet, but the owner has said it'll be pricey as they had to drain the water system among other things, and they had my car for 3 hours

when i gave them it I asked if they wanted my haines which explains how to do it, i nearly suggested leaving my laptop with the pics and description on the maintenance guides

i forsee an arguement happening - can anyone tell me (ballpark figure) how much it should cost and how long it should take to do the job

thanks for any replies :)
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: RobG on 12 April 2013, 18:31:46: Hour tops
Bagpipes out
Disconnect battery
Remove aux belt
Remove two securing bolts and pull alternator forward
Disconnect the wires from the back.
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: symes on 12 April 2013, 18:34:05: totall b******s they are telling you-remove bag pipes+ alternator belt +tensioner-2x16mm nuts+bolts alternator off after wires1x8mm 1x13mm :y takes me 20-30 mins to do :y
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: biggriffin on 12 April 2013, 18:38:25: as above :y
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 April 2013, 19:49:24: Agreed. If you can't do it in an hour you are not fit to call yourself a mechanic. :o
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Entwood on 12 April 2013, 20:02:54: When mine failed and Greenflag appointed agents did the job, I was on my way 1:15 minutes after pulling up at their centre. They had to unload from a flatbed and get it into the garage in that time as well.... and mine has a few LPG pipes, electrics and additional coolant pipes to contend with :) :)
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: tigers_gonads on 12 April 2013, 20:27:20: They are going to try and have your pants down here mate >:(
Instructions as above ;)

About a 90 mins at the very most and that includes a fag / tea break ;)
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Andy B on 12 April 2013, 20:51:26: Is anybody able to send Tiger a copy of TIS for this job? That would give him a bit of ammunition :-\
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Entwood on 12 April 2013, 21:07:10: Doesn't say much (my old illegal version) just

Job no J705100 - alternator - replace 1.2 hours
supplementary - for vehicles with lower engine compartment cover
Job no j705100005 - 0.2 hours
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: 78bex on 12 April 2013, 23:18:00: Oh this the old "thought you wanted the full service as well mate"
Crikey that stitch up goes back umpteen years.
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 April 2013, 03:55:11: Quote from: Entwood on 12 April 2013, 21:07:10
Doesn't say much (my old illegal version) just

Job no J705100 - alternator - replace 1.2 hours
supplementary - for vehicles with lower engine compartment cover
Job no j705100005 - 0.2 hours
So still less than 90 mins then :-\ even allowing for the engine tray not having already being removed by a speed hump or three...
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: albitz on 13 April 2013, 05:17:48: Im trying to imagine why they could possibly need to drain the coolant to change the alternator ! :o ::) ;D
They are ripping you off mate.Offer them 1.5 hours labour charge as payment,or a call to trading standards.Their choice. ;)
The "new coolant" should be pretty obvious btw. ;)
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 April 2013, 08:23:50: As many have said above, they are preping the Vasaline ::)

Give them an hour and halfs money which is more than enough oh and take your spare key just in case ::)
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2013, 10:14:47: I am wondering if the LPG install and potential evaporator position impacted the time.

But alternator is a sub 1 hour job on a standard engine
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2013, 10:59:36: Quote from: Marks Hornby 'OO' on 14 April 2013, 10:14:47
I am wondering if the LPG install and potential evaporator position impacted the time.

But alternator is a sub 1 hour job on a standard engine
Even removing the evap is a sub 10m job, refit 15m tops...

...although we don't know how this install is done
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: wedge on 14 April 2013, 17:26:31: hi all

as for the LPG, I could put up some pics to see if anyone thinks that the LPG pipes may have caused an extra problem, or would it be enough to say that DARTH LOO KNEE did the cam belt and water pump a couple of years back with no extra problems from them

thanks for all the replies and i'll let you know what the bill is like when it drops on the welcome mat :-X
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: wedge on 15 April 2013, 22:23:42: the bill came and it says:

strip down, remove undertray, turbo hoses, fan (can't read next word, looks like) coils & covers, partly drain cooling system and remove top hose for access. remove alternator & fit supplied replacement, fully assemble, start and check charge, replace battery and road test

2 & 1/2 hours labour at £110.40 with vat

and now the bargaining begins!!!
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Andy B on 15 April 2013, 22:36:41: Quote from: wedge on 15 April 2013, 22:23:42
the bill came and it says:

strip down, remove undertray, turbo hoses, fan (can't read next word, looks like) coils & covers, partly drain cooling system and remove top hose for access. remove alternator & fit supplied replacement, fully assemble, start and check charge, replace battery and road test

2 & 1/2 hours labour at £110.40 with vat

and now the bargaining begins!!!

He's taking the proverbial or he's incompetent if he's taking 2 & half hours to fit an alternator. No idea why he needed to drain any coolant ??? ???
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Broomies Mate on 15 April 2013, 22:38:23: I want Turbo hoses on mine! :'(

;D
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 April 2013, 22:41:07: .. and what was he doing anywhere near the fan?.. Sounds like it's someone else's bill, TBH, because that doesn't sound like a V6 Omega to me. >:(
Title: Re: chaning the alternator - you had to do what????
Post by: CaptainZok on 15 April 2013, 22:51:21: Looks like it's the uber rare 2.6 turbo model. ;D