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Title: eBay dreamers
Post by: Andy B on 13 April 2013, 14:22:42
When is a car 'for restoration' & when should you just throw the towel in and admit that it really should just be swept up & scrapped?

Honda S800 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-S800-/130886391962?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e796fd89a)

Riley (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Riley-Roadster-For-Complete-Restoration-/121090623737?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c319048f9)

With the best will in the world, both these come under the latter ..... and as for what they want for them!!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2013, 15:20:14
I remember the little Honda from my youth. It wears an 'F' plate so 1967/68 by my reckoning.

If memory serves it displaced about 790cc, but threw out about 75 BHP......pretty impressive for the time. :y
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2013, 15:22:11
Redlined at 8,500 rpm according to the tacho. :y
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: omega3000 on 13 April 2013, 15:22:25
I like that Honda , sounds like it just needs a decent service  ;D
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2013, 15:24:57
I like that Honda , sounds like it just needs a decent service  ;D


Replacement for the Pug?, Mr EMD. :)
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: omega3000 on 13 April 2013, 15:28:37
Not quite Mr Optic as the pug is totally rust free  :P

How on earth does he come to that price on the Honda  :-\
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 April 2013, 15:31:56
Not quite Mr Optic as the pug is totally rust free  :P

How on earth does he come to that price on the Honda  :-\


He tells us it's a classic. ::) ::) ::) ;)......and it's free of rust, just like your Pug. :y
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: omega3000 on 13 April 2013, 15:47:32
Not quite Mr Optic as the pug is totally rust free  :P

How on earth does he come to that price on the Honda  :-\


He tells us it's a classic. ::) ::) ::) ;)......and it's free of rust, just like your Pug. :y

Pug will be going to another owner very soon , being a classic it too should fetch a healthy price  :P

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. If it doesn't sell, I will eventually restore it myslf.
:-\

Ive seen some bad rust buckets but surely that is beyond repair  :-\

Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: dbug on 13 April 2013, 16:33:33
When is a car 'for restoration' & when should you just throw the towel in and admit that it really should just be swept up & scrapped?

Honda S800 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-S800-/130886391962?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e796fd89a)

Riley (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Riley-Roadster-For-Complete-Restoration-/121090623737?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c319048f9)

With the best will in the world, both these come under the latter ..... and as for what they want for them!!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Agree with you re the Honda Andy, but the Riley that will be worth a lot of money when renovated.  Pity its got its carbs as I've still got a pair of SUs on a manifold off an early 2.5 lit Riley.
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Andy B on 13 April 2013, 16:39:30
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but the Riley that will be worth a lot of money when renovated.  Pity its got its carbs as I've still got a pair of SUs on a manifold off an early 2.5 lit Riley.

The Riley looks to me as though it's had a fire at some time .... eg no seating material at all is left. Fire/heat does some weird & wonderful things to the make-up of steel.  ???
It would have someone's pride & joy in its day.  :y
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: dbug on 13 April 2013, 16:47:55
Doubt if its had a fire looking at it - altho seats etc gone, springing and frame look pretty good.  At that age and probably just left outside would require reupholstering etc.  Also engine bay undamaged and tyres still evident ;)
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Andy B on 13 April 2013, 16:55:51
Doubt if its had a fire looking at it - altho seats etc gone, springing and frame look pretty good.  At that age and probably just left outside would require reupholstering etc.  Also engine bay undamaged and tyres still evident ;)

Yes .... you're probably right - still has the 'plastic' - Bakelite on the steering wheel too  ;)

Still way too much money for a basket case Riley though
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: dbug on 13 April 2013, 17:09:03
A good RMC drophead can sell for anything from £23k to £40K  ;)
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Selseybill on 13 April 2013, 17:55:41
Saw one of these sell at Sandown auto auctions a few years ago. Fully restored in mint condition, original owner. The wife wanted it, so i bid up to 5k. The car went for 14k in the end. She ended up with a old Fiat Aberth 500 instead
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: symes on 13 April 2013, 18:04:46
unfortunately you can blame all those stupid classic car mags/programs spouting on about investment/value-unfortunately
people buy into this and see any vehicle that is old is worth lots of money :'( and so rich people buy up cars and seal them away as investments-look how mk1/2 escorts now go for silly money-my consul cost me £400 years ago-now stripprd out worth £2000+ as it is-I would'nt sell it though as always loved them :y
AND I have seen worse cars than those fully restored-not for profit but for love as they spent thousands and may years too
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: henryd on 13 April 2013, 18:38:09
I would fix the Riley and cut up the Honda to make patches for it ;D
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Andy B on 13 April 2013, 18:39:13
I would fix the Riley and cut up the Honda to make patches for it ;D

There not much left of the Honda to makes from ........  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: dbug on 13 April 2013, 23:44:40
I would fix the Riley and cut up the Honda to make patches for it ;D

If I was fixing the Riley, I would rather use new metal than risk using rusty, perforated Japenese metal on a Briish classic ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: flyer 0712 on 14 April 2013, 00:38:18
The guy has been breathing in too much fresh air and watching the nudists on brighton beach again. :D :D
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Vamps on 14 April 2013, 00:55:45
unfortunately you can blame all those stupid classic car mags/programs spouting on about investment/value-unfortunately
people buy into this and see any vehicle that is old is worth lots of money :'( and so rich people buy up cars and seal them away as investments-look how mk1/2 escorts now go for silly money-my consul cost me £400 years ago-now stripprd out worth £2000+ as it is-I would'nt sell it though as always loved them :y
AND I have seen worse cars than those fully restored-not for profit but for love as they spent thousands and may years too

I quite agree.... :( :(

Not so sure about the Riley but the Honda :-\ you are buying the reg and identity, sadly you then go out an nick a good one, this happens a lot with Mini's and Landrovers, I have even seen log book and plates / chassis no's for sale on ebay............. :( :( :(
Title: Re: eBay dreamers
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 April 2013, 01:20:39
I dunno you know..  :-\  Had a quick look and came up with these.....

http://www.sussexsportscars.co.uk/classic_car/1487/1967_honda_s800_coupe/

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page/129878/1950-riley-rmc/

http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/702/

To be honest I've no idea of the costs of restoring cars like this but at a glance it would seem that you would have around £10,000 to play with on the Honda and £15,000 or so on the Riley?  :-\  Assuming you got a top final restored valuation and paid the sellers asking price...  ::)

If you viewed them as long term projects, would it cost as much as that to restore?  :-\

I like the restored Honda.. Very pretty!!!  :-*