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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: andyboy on 17 April 2013, 20:45:46
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hi can anyone tell me were the glow plug relay is located on an omega 2.5 gls td,and whot does it look like
cheers
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If it's the same as a 2.2DTi it'll be in the top of the triangular relay box by the side of the battery. :y
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cheers mate ,,havin problems starting in morning ,,can the fuel run back in the 2.5td causing this ,,
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once i give a squirt of easy start its fine starting the rest of the day
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once i give a squirt of easy start its fine starting the rest of the day
Don't use EZStart, it will make it a bastard to start.
What are the glow plugs like? Does giving it a few cycles of glowplugs help?
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And check condition of leak-off pipes
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I would say its your glow plugs on way out mate IMHO :y :y and as TB says-leak off pipes :y
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cheers guys ,,were can i find the leakoff pipes
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if the batterys well up it will eventualy start after about 5 0r 6 minutes..bought a multimeter to check plugs ,,but not sure how to use them lol im a plasterer so not to good with the technical side of cars :-X help :-\
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easistart will slowly be making starting harder due to the engine damage it causes.
Given the starting diffuclty, I would be going with air getting in the system so leak off pipes are a favourite.
Heres a pic of a Ford piston damaged by Easistart which I rebuilt last year
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/DSC00168.jpg)
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Heres a pic of a Ford piston damaged by Easistart which I rebuilt last year
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What's actually eaten the pistion? :-\
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Heres a pic of a Ford piston damaged by Easistart which I rebuilt last year
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What's actually eaten the pistion? :-\
I believe its the extremely high temperatures caused by the detonation of the easystart droplets. They are highly volatile and produce large amounts of localised heat energy .. it is after all how the stuff is designed to work !!
But the damage done is accumulative, and the engine slowly but surely becomes reliant on the stuff as compression and fuel pattern inside the cylinder gets worse and worse due to the damage .. :(
Do NOT use this stuff IMHO .. :(
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The ether fractured the rings, these then made a bid for freedom up the side of the piston taking some piston with it.
With the aid of the cylinder head, the rings fragments were then stamped into the crown and hence the damage.
We actauly found pieces of ring embedded into the piston
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Heres a pic of a Ford piston damaged by Easistart which I rebuilt last year
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What's actually eaten the pistion? :-\
I believe its the extremely high temperatures caused by the detonation of the easystart droplets. They are highly volatile and produce large amounts of localised heat energy .. it is after all how the stuff is designed to work !!
But the damage done is accumulative, and the engine slowly but surely becomes reliant on the stuff as compression and fuel pattern inside the cylinder gets worse and worse due to the damage .. :(
Do NOT use this stuff IMHO .. :(
Thanks Nige .... sounds plausible ;)
I don't use the stuff myself, but I've not sen the crown of very many pistons ;)
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The ether fractured the rings, these then made a bid for freedom up the side of the piston taking some piston with it.
With the aid of the cylinder head, the rings fragments were then stamped into the crown and hence the damage.
We actauly found pieces of ring embedded into the piston
OUCH .. now that is a tad extreme !!!
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The ether fractured the rings, these then made a bid for freedom up the side of the piston taking some piston with it.
With the aid of the cylinder head, the rings fragments were then stamped into the crown and hence the damage.
We actauly found pieces of ring embedded into the piston
Thanks Mark :y
Ooooo! :o Doesn't sound good! :( :(
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I find mine doesn't like to start if its been parked on a bank for any length of time facing up the bank so fuel can run back to the tank parked the other way it starts first time
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The major problem is that its very volatile and ignites early in the compression stroke and hence clatters the rings.
If it was diesel, this is injected into the combustion bowl 20-30 degress before TDC and hence is a more controled combustion.
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were are the leak off pipes located then :-X cmon lads lol
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were are the leak off pipes located then :-X cmon lads lol
From the injector pump to the injectors and between the injectors. If it's original it will have a material covering
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if the batterys well up it will eventualy start after about 5 0r 6 minutes..bought a multimeter to check plugs ,,but not sure how to use them lol im a plasterer so not to good with the technical side of cars :-X help :-\
Two checks you can do, the Relay can arc and or pit across the contacts meaning you can get intermittent current flowing to the GP's during warm up period, or the contacts intermittently make contact causing the GP's to be on when not required and cook the GPs, eventually killing them.
1, Voltage Check, one side of the relay is connected directly to the Battery so +12V should appear on the 6 wires feeding the GPs from the top of the relay during warm up mode, this voltage will stay there for approx 4 seconds after the GP Dash Light goes out.
2, Resistance Check, pull the connecter off the top of the relay and measure each GP in turn with earth or neg battery, each GP should measure approx 2 Ohms, if any are open circuit then its either a wiring issue or faulty GP.
On the 2.5 TDs it can only take 2 or more GPs to go and this will cause starting issues when cold.
Chris. ;)
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How much fuel's in the tank? :-\