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Title: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 April 2013, 12:03:51
as above..  can you convert a normal differential to LSD by swapping some internal parts ?
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: 2woody on 22 April 2013, 20:37:13
yes you can.
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 April 2013, 20:38:33
yes you can.

thanks 2woody..  :y :y :y  but which part (s) (sorry I ask for more detail)  ? :-\ 
 
 
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: dazzerM on 22 April 2013, 20:47:21
yes you can.

thanks 2woody..  :y :y :y  but which part (s) (sorry I ask for more detail)  ? :-\

I am not sure what would be involved in this giving you are locking the wheels to rotate at the same speed (LSD)

When needed a non LSD will turn the inner wheel slower or free wheel it as it doesn't have to travel the same difference as the outer

What ever is involved I take its similar to the old blob of weld allowing equal distribution of power to both wheels, however having seen many cars with this and how rough the ride is it low speeds I wouldn't advise it  :y
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 April 2013, 20:57:16
yes you can.

thanks 2woody..  :y :y :y  but which part (s) (sorry I ask for more detail)  ? :-\

I am not sure what would be involved in this giving you are locking the wheels to rotate at the same speed (LSD)

When needed a non LSD will turn the inner wheel slower or free wheel it as it doesn't have to travel the same difference as the outer

What ever is involved I take its similar to the old blob of weld allowing equal distribution of power to both wheels, however having seen many cars with this and how rough the ride is it low speeds I wouldn't advise it :y

thanks for the info :y :y :y
 
I also dont prefer this welding method :-\  people say it wont handle tight turns :-\
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: 2woody on 22 April 2013, 21:15:26
basically, the crownwheel carrier is different for LSD.

it is possible to swap parts over, but even the bearings and seals needed once you have the LSD parts cost more than a decent Omega
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 April 2013, 21:25:24
the cost is not a problem.. basically when I try to buy a big boxed second hand part the customs become the problem (tried that)..  for that reason I'm asking for parts.. :'( +
 
and if I try to buy an unused differential (let alone an LSD) its costs (here) a fleet of omegas with UK price :(
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: pauls on 22 April 2013, 21:37:33
Cem might sound silly but could you not buy one here and get somebody on oof to break it down and send it to you in bits. Then all you have to do is but it back together :y
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 April 2013, 21:39:58
Cem might sound silly but could you not buy one here and get somebody on oof to break it down and send it to you in bits. Then all you have to do is but it back together :y

 
thanks for your interest..  :) :y :y :y
 
and that was my plan, if I could learn the parts :-\
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: JesperKjeldsen on 23 April 2013, 10:44:10
I have seen some omegas with bmw rear diff, for examble a bmw 325i E46 has lsd. to mount this you will need to have a special made propellerchaft (the one that connects the gearbox to the rear diff) and some special made drive schafts. in denmark this conversion can be made for around 2000kr + the price of a bmw rear diff..

its worth a thought. otherwise you need to find a old omega policecar with manual gearbox
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 April 2013, 19:33:42
I have seen some omegas with bmw rear diff, for examble a bmw 325i E46 has lsd. to mount this you will need to have a special made propellerchaft (the one that connects the gearbox to the rear diff) and some special made drive schafts. in denmark this conversion can be made for around 2000kr + the price of a bmw rear diff..

its worth a thought. otherwise you need to find a old omega policecar with manual gearbox

great  :y :y :y   thats the easiest way , lots of second hand lsd bmw diffs here.. I asked this to mechanics but they were not sure.. :) :)
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: 2woody on 23 April 2013, 20:43:04
the BMW way could be the most cost-effective.

For Omega parts :-

£250 to buy a second-hand LSD of unknown quality here in the UK
£50 to get someone to strip it for you
£50 postage

and to rebuild at the other end

£180 for output bearings
£100 for a new set of diff plates
£150 to get it built up and clearances set, etc.

£780 as an estimate
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 April 2013, 20:57:35
the BMW way could be the most cost-effective.

For Omega parts :-

£250 to buy a second-hand LSD of unknown quality here in the UK
£50 to get someone to strip it for you
£50 postage

and to rebuild at the other end

£180 for output bearings
£100 for a new set of diff plates
£150 to get it built up and clearances set, etc.

£780 as an estimate

agreed 2woody..  :y   and it will be time consuming headache for friend members and pasing the parts from customs one by one is another problem :-\  so I will prefer to buy from here directly.. in case of problem I can give it back to breakers :) :y
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: serek on 23 April 2013, 21:13:42
I have few LSD here if you want , sure we can sort something out :y
EDIT: can post from UK or Poland
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 April 2013, 21:50:55
I have few LSD here if you want , sure we can sort something out :y
EDIT: can post from UK or Poland

thanks for the offer Serek..  :y
 
I'll first try to solve locally.. if I cant, I'll pm you :y
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: Varche on 25 April 2013, 14:27:42
It would be cheaper cem for you to offer a "holiday" to someone selling an LSD to drive it to Turkey on their axle and drive back with yours on their axle. 
Title: Re: What parts are different in a limited slip differential from a normal one ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 April 2013, 18:14:10
It would be cheaper cem for you to offer a "holiday" to someone selling an LSD to drive it to Turkey on their axle and drive back with yours on their axle.

thats the shortest and great idea.. ;D  and seems like the only way as I couldnt find any suitable ratio in breakers :-\  the most closest was 3.70 and is tall geared :(