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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Rog on 01 May 2013, 11:56:42
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It's ok. Flying is safe . . . .
This was NOT an attack by anyone, it just happened. Have a good flight ;D
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c32_1367332518
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Looked like it stalled for some reason after take off,pilot didn't have enough height to recover :'( :'(
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Yep, classic "low and slow" accident, as far as I can see. :(
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cargo shifted during take-off. Crew had no chance :'(
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cargo shifted during take-off. Crew had no chance :'(
Indeed - and all seven died on impact..
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cargo shifted during take-off. Crew had no chance :'(
Yes, that would do it. I guess the CofG shifted aft to the point where the elevator lost authority. :(
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
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RIP to the poor guys ... a couple of minutes of absolute terror no doubt.. :(
Many theory's abound in the aviation forums .. but a cargo shift/stall seems to be the favourite ..
When Mr Bernoulli leaves the room Mr Newton takes over with a vengeance .. :(
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Horrific.
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Some of those cargo carriers leave alot to be desdired. Seen a fair few close calls at Gatwick due to poor loading/overloading :-\
Just because the freight physically fits the space doesn't mean it should be loaded...
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Shite :( :( :(
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dave my son in law just phoned my daughter after the latest ied killed 3 of our lads out there angela was paniking because the expected phone call last night didnt happen somthing called minimize so big sigh of relief there but bad for the familiys of the 3 lads thay didnt make it :( :( :(
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yes when Op MINIMISE is on there is no phone or internet access for anyone, only military phones back to UK military phones. That is until the Next of Kin have all been informed. When there is multiple casualties it can take a while, that and some families are separated which takes times to get everyone. It's a sad reality but the MOD gets kicked in the nuts when people find out via friends/email/facebook/etc.
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yes when Op MINIMISE is on there is no phone or internet access for anyone, only military phones back to UK military phones. That is until the Next of Kin have all been informed. When there is multiple casualties it can take a while, that and some families are separated which takes times to get everyone. It's a sad reality but the MOD gets kicked in the nuts when people find out via friends/email/facebook/etc.
thanks for explaining that for me guffer angela was in a panic this morning and last night and didnt explain wich is to be expected still a bad day for all cheers mate :y :y :y :y
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No worries. It normally lasts about 8 hours, sometimes it only lasts an hour, but last year it was once on for 2 days. Problem is we in the UK dont know anything (and cannot)
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Only ever flew once , and we had a great flight out but the fight back was at night ..didnt like it one bit flying over birmingham twice looking at all the people on the ground walking the streets :( Sad for those that died in that :(
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That was a 'First Choice' piece of advertising below the video, offering cheap flights... ::)
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
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had flight many times and I still have fear like the first time.. :-\
if I had a parachute and there were enough doors may be my fear will decrease a bit.. :-X
but for that case even chute wont save anyone..
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
You mean? no.............surely, you can't be saying it WASN'T aliens? ::)
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(
A bit like the Paris Concorde :-\ by the time the problem became apparent it was too late to abort the takeoff without crashing. Screwed either way :'(
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(
Nope, much simpler than that. The crash occurred "due to low altitude after takeoff" (according to an army spokesperson). Zero altitude in fact, guess that's why he's in the army, not the air force ;)
http://www.businessinsider.com/bagram-airport-crash-video-surfaces-2013-4 (http://www.businessinsider.com/bagram-airport-crash-video-surfaces-2013-4)
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Cem will have a theory ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry for those who lost their lives :'(
not enough air speed, so obviously pilot mistake :( (there is no fog)
Nope. The pilot would have been concentrating on speed and angle of attack to the exclusion of almost everything else that early on in the climb. For him to let them go so far out of control would be inconcievable. You have classic signs of an incipient spin there. A wing drops, gets picked up, only for the other wing to drop, with a load of yaw. The aircraft looked very nose-up right from the start of the video. I suspect that flight was doomed from the moment it passed V1, and, having taken to the air, nothing anyone could have done would have saved it.. :'(
this also took my attention.. and thats the begining of disaster.. if you put your nose too much up without enough speed , you drop lke a stone .. because your wings will not have enough angle to carry the plane..and thats obviously a pilot mistake ;)
hence caused by CIA ;D
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I thought that when planes take off from places like that, they climb as steeply as possible to gain altitude quickly to avoid attack from small arms and RPG's etc.... ? :-\
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I thought that when planes take off from places like that, they climb as steeply as possible to gain altitude quickly to avoid attack from small arms and RPG's etc.... ? :-\
yes.. but with enough speed.. its the only thing that keeps you on the air..
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what ever the reason its happend we cant tuen the clock back weve got to think of there familiys
nothing will bring them back such a tragic loss of life :'( :'( :'(
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There will be an investigation, which will most likely conclude that a sudden artificial shift of the CoG towards the tail caused an unrecoverable stall, Crew not at fault.
Won't bring them back though :'(