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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: peter the butcher on 14 May 2013, 16:44:26
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Hi all,
as I am quite new to the Omega, it seems there are some do's and do not's, when it comes to tracking,
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"A tracking or 4 wheel alignment on it will be a waste of money I'm afraid."
As I live up in north yorkshire, the only people that I know of, are a north east tyre group who do the" lazer job". I was wondering if there are any members who could recommend someone who knows what they are doing, as am getting 2 new front tyres, and do not want them going round the outside edges ( as the ones that are on now are :()
Peter
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Try this site which should give you a geometry setting unit who will use WIM's (Chesham) settings for your Omega. : http://www.blackboots.co.uk/order.php?step=5
HTH
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Not sure where the quote's come from.
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my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.
Anyone agree with that?
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Not sure where the quote's come from.
BUT
my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.
Anyone agree with that?
Sort of .. but not quite ... :)
Specs as provided by vauxhall are perfect .. on a brand new car straight off the production line, or one fairly close to that ...
Specs as provided by WIM after their research/experience are far better on a car that has done many thousands of miles, and most omegas are up around the 80,000 + (some by a very big + with many over 100,000 :) ) so things have worn/settled/changed (delete as appropriate) :)
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Not sure where the quote's come
The quote came from a thread, think on page 86, ish
Peter
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Not sure where the quote's come from.
BUT
my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.
Anyone agree with that?
Sort of .. but not quite ... :)
Specs as provided by vauxhall are perfect .. on a brand new car straight off the production line, or one fairly close to that ...
Specs as provided by WIM after their research/experience are far better on a car that has done many thousands of miles, and most omegas are up around the 80,000 + (some by a very big + with many over 100,000 :) ) so things have worn/settled/changed (delete as appropriate) :)
:y
I suppose the size/weight of the car also plays a part in that over time
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well it looks like a road trip to Scarborough, there is an agent there, according to the blackboots website. Just make sure its a sunny day to go to the seaside eh ;D
Peter
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Not sure where the quote's come from.
BUT
my understanding from reading various threads is that the specs/settings supplied by Vauxhall are actually not as good as the ones that WIM have researched and corrected.
Anyone agree with that?
Sort of .. but not quite ... :)
Specs as provided by vauxhall are perfect .. on a brand new car straight off the production line, or one fairly close to that ...
Specs as provided by WIM after their research/experience are far better on a car that has done many thousands of miles, and most omegas are up around the 80,000 + (some by a very big + with many over 100,000 :) ) so things have worn/settled/changed (delete as appropriate) :)
I think the tolerance from the factory is far too wide (worth a read of Tony - WIM's words in the guides).
The figures that Tony came up with are an ideal given various variables such as ride height, suspension age and version, normal load carried etc. These provide the best compromise of handling V tyre wear as I understand it.
I'm probably way off the mark so apologies if i'm totally wrong.
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I had mine done on a computerized 4 wheel system at my local tyre depot when I got the new tyres on few months ago. Not sure which figures they used but there is no evidence of tramlining or uneven wear anywhere with over 4000 miles done since, tyres still look like new but maybe its too early to tell yet
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makes me want to borrow my schools wheel alignment kit (manual set up) to check the toe on mine.... just purely out of interest
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Probably worth checking the state of the front suspension components first :y Alignment, however proper, will only be as good as the bushes :-\
If your bushes/ball joints are on their last legs, you might as well burn the £90 rather than getting the alignment done. If all is well then get it set up and happy days :y If not, renew as necessary, then get set up done :y
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That I will do, as you say, it will be a waste of time and money if the bushes only last a short while. Thanks for that info, not thought of that (its an age thing I have just been told)
Peter
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Fit polys to the front wishbone bushes: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109953.0 and then get it tracked. :y
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Do you actually have a problem with tyre wear? How did the last tyres wear?
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I have an advisory on the MOT from december last, and have just had the car for a few weeks, so rather than wait for next MOT, thought about getting them changed in the next few weeks. the front ones are wearing a tad thin on the outside edges. And as the old saying goes, "strike while the irons hot"
I am one of those guys, who does not know much about the mechanical side of things, :( and takes the advice of fellow "marque owners"
Peter
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Outside edge wear is not the normal pattern of wear on an Omega that needs wheel alignment sorting. I'm not saying that it won't help, if done properly, or that it won't make the car drive better, but the usual pattern of things as the suspension ages is that the camber becomes excessively negative and the inside edges wear.
Outside edges naturally wear a little due to hard cornering. I'd only say it's worth worrying about if the outside edge is an issue before the rest of the tyre has worn close to the limit.
Having said, that, if the suspension has been neglected, it wouldn't hurt, but check all the bushes and ball joints first and replace any that have degraded.
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Thanks for that Kevin, I have just looked, and there isa lot of wear on the rest of the 2 tyres, just the outside edge, and I do not believe its been driven hard, as its been well serviced and looked after at no expense by the previous owner. I will get it looked at tho, in the next 2 weeks
Peter