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Title: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 09:05:18
Ive got a front bumper to spray and im going to use rattle cans , wont be doing this till it warms up but what paint should i be using ? Anyone used rattle cans and which make is going to be the best , is there a one coat spray without primer  :-\  :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 May 2013, 09:28:26
Emd, if you want a proper and a long lasting job, remove the old paint (god knows what layers/surprise you will face) -(150 or 320) and prime it.. then sand the prime with 1200 (surface must be as smooth as possible).. no idea about your rattle cans though :-\
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 May 2013, 13:31:36
distance 20-25 cms , straight 90 degrees to surface and longitudinal movements except the wheel arches..
 
move your hand at a constant speed and dont stop.. next layer must overlap 50% on the previous..  turning moment outside the bumper area.. :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: dbug on 16 May 2013, 16:25:48
I've done a couple of bumpers with rattle cans (too much trouble, or too lazy, to get spray gear out), need to flat, spray with primer (use correct primer for plastic bumpers for good adhesion), lightly flat, then rattle can it (I used 2 cans roughly per bumper).  Got my cans from local motor factors (in Rushden), who colour match and mix up the cans (always had goodish match this way).  Spray clear lacquer while colour coat still "soft" to minimise risk of delamination :y 
HTH
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 16:34:27
Thanks chaps , the bumper will be off the car and apparently already sanded down . If i can get a near enough match i thought about using plasticote  :-\ , does not need primer and gives a strong coat  :)
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: dbug on 16 May 2013, 16:37:56
Thanks chaps , the bumper will be off the car and apparently already sanded down . If i can get a near enough match i thought about using plasticote  :-\ , does not need primer and gives a strong coat  :)

No experience of that so can't comment.
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 16:40:17
I've done a couple of bumpers with rattle cans (too much trouble, or too lazy, to get spray gear out), need to flat, spray with primer (use correct primer for plastic bumpers for good adhesion), lightly flat, then rattle can it (I used 2 cans roughly per bumper).  Got my cans from local motor factors (in Rushden), who colour match and mix up the cans (always had goodish match this way).  Spray clear lacquer while colour coat still "soft" to minimise risk of delamination :y 
HTH

Sound about right  ;) Ive never been sure on this but do you flatten the paint before applying lacquer ?? Im thinking it may give a better shine  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: dbug on 16 May 2013, 16:42:54
Depends how good you are at spraying - I've always gone straight over with the lacquer.
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 16:44:30
Depends how good you are at spraying - I've always gone straight over with the lacquer.

Ive done small items but nothing this big , biggest problem is the bugs settling on it  >:( Although im hoping it might fit in the shed ..
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: martin42 on 16 May 2013, 16:46:30
could use my garage 1 weekend  :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 16:49:51
could use my garage 1 weekend  :y

Thanks martin never thought of that , see if it fits in the shed first ...wonder if i could sneak it into the dining room  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: ozzycat on 16 May 2013, 16:55:01
could use my garage 1 weekend  :y

Thanks martin never thought of that , see if it fits in the shed first ...wonder if i could sneak it into the dining room  ::) ;D
ill tell on yer nah nananh ;D ;D ;D itll cost yer now ;D ;D ;D
it will remind me of having engine bits in the dishwasher
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 17:03:02
could use my garage 1 weekend  :y

Thanks martin never thought of that , see if it fits in the shed first ...wonder if i could sneak it into the dining room  ::) ;D
ill tell on yer nah nananh ;D ;D ;D itll cost yer now ;D ;D ;D
it will remind me of having engine bits in the dishwasher

Hmm ? Never thought of that  :D
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omegod on 16 May 2013, 17:38:46
I use one of these with rattle cans, gives much better control over the paint

http://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/Shop/p~30650~Can-Gun-With-Trigger.html?Refid=googlePLA&gclid=CLGJ4-WHm7cCFYXItAodSy4Awg&of_uid=fe721e8f-5614-4319-a8e3-995af9e73e41
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 18:26:56
I use one of these with rattle cans, gives much better control over the paint

http://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/Shop/p~30650~Can-Gun-With-Trigger.html?Refid=googlePLA&gclid=CLGJ4-WHm7cCFYXItAodSy4Awg&of_uid=fe721e8f-5614-4319-a8e3-995af9e73e41

Looks a good piece of kit  ;)
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 May 2013, 18:58:27
I've done a couple of bumpers with rattle cans (too much trouble, or too lazy, to get spray gear out), need to flat, spray with primer (use correct primer for plastic bumpers for good adhesion), lightly flat, then rattle can it (I used 2 cans roughly per bumper).  Got my cans from local motor factors (in Rushden), who colour match and mix up the cans (always had goodish match this way).  Spray clear lacquer while colour coat still "soft" to minimise risk of delamination :y 
HTH

Sound about right  ;) Ive never been sure on this but do you flatten the paint before applying lacquer ?? Im thinking it may give a better shine  :-\ :-\

your car color is silver which is very hard to match.. besides plastic surfaces have different electrostatic loads then metal surfaces so
whatever you do, the final color will be a different shade even with a matching paint.. :-\
 
so first try on another wide surface imo..  if you ask my opinion, first apply 4 tiny layers on the bumper and close the surface.. let it dry .. next day sand 1200-1500 (old) lightly .. and finally apply 2 layers paint 3 layers laquer  ..
 
ps: keep a tweezer handy and if any insect stick to paint (while painting) take it with a tweezer (not by finger  ;D )  than spray the area few times , it will heal itself :y   but during dry up time dont touch anything
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 May 2013, 19:03:18
if you sand the old paint including old primer, you wil definitely need plastic primer first
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 23:15:18
if you sand the old paint including old primer, you wil definitely need plastic primer first

Thanks cem , waiting for delivery of the bumper so wont know till i see it ... will use primer for sure and
tweezers for (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/moustic1.gif)
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 16 May 2013, 23:21:21
Got to spray the front bumper on the Omega ideally but not looking forward but its OK so might leave it  ;D

Good luck with it though buddy and upload some progress pic's :y :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 16 May 2013, 23:22:28
if you sand the old paint including old primer, you wil definitely need plastic primer first

Thanks cem , waiting for delivery of the bumper so wont know till i see it ... will use primer for sure and
tweezers for (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/moustic1.gif)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/moustic1.gif)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 May 2013, 23:22:41
if you sand the old paint including old primer, you wil definitely need plastic primer first

Thanks cem , waiting for delivery of the bumper so wont know till i see it ... will use primer for sure and
tweezers for (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/moustic1.gif)

 ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2013, 23:27:52
Got to spray the front bumper on the Omega ideally but not looking forward but its OK so might leave it  ;D

Good luck with it though buddy and upload some progress pic's :y :y

Yes im going to take some pictures of before during and after , hope the weather picks up soon as ive already put the bbq away till next year  :-[ Quite looking forward to getting it sorted , ive done fibre glassing before and making up strengthening plates which this will need so quite a bit of prep work  :)
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: ozzycat on 17 May 2013, 14:42:52
have you thought about spraying the botom of the bumper  with stoneguard to stop stone chips  would be worth it :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 17 May 2013, 14:46:24
have you thought about spraying the botom of the bumper  with stoneguard to stop stone chips  would be worth it :y :y :y :y :y

No i never thought of that kev , good idea  :y
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 May 2013, 14:54:26
have you thought about spraying the botom of the bumper  with stoneguard to stop stone chips  would be worth it :y :y :y :y :y

is this one ?
http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=stone+guard&um=1&safe=active&sa=N&hl=tr&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR527&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=2sJaj_E8KxNbYM:&imgrefurl=http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/underbody-and-texture-coating/texture-coatings/wurth-stone-guard-spray-8890971-8890972.html&docid=vBC618aIgrBD_M&imgurl=http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/images/detailed/0/Wurth_Stone_Guard_Spray.jpg&w=400&h=600&ei=QTaWUaWCN-jd4QTkq4CIDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=312&page=3&tbnh=145&tbnw=100&start=68&ndsp=36&ved=1t:429,r:83,s:0,i:334&tx=54&ty=68 (http://www.google.com.tr/imgres?q=stone+guard&um=1&safe=active&sa=N&hl=tr&rlz=1R2NDKB_enTR527&biw=1280&bih=826&tbm=isch&tbnid=2sJaj_E8KxNbYM:&imgrefurl=http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/underbody-and-texture-coating/texture-coatings/wurth-stone-guard-spray-8890971-8890972.html&docid=vBC618aIgrBD_M&imgurl=http://www.goodspeedmotoring.com/images/detailed/0/Wurth_Stone_Guard_Spray.jpg&w=400&h=600&ei=QTaWUaWCN-jd4QTkq4CIDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=312&page=3&tbnh=145&tbnw=100&start=68&ndsp=36&ved=1t:429,r:83,s:0,i:334&tx=54&ty=68)
Title: Re: Bumper Paint
Post by: omega3000 on 17 May 2013, 15:00:24
Thats the one cem , can get it in different colours  :y