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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: alexw80 on 19 May 2013, 18:20:45

Title: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 19 May 2013, 18:20:45
Hi guys, I'm thinking about saving myself a few quid and doing my front pads and sensors myself, as well as a full brake fluid change. But no idea what pads or sensors to get.

Pretty much every parts site I look at lists various different types of pads for both ATE and Lucas callipers. Some say they're prepared for wear indicators some don't. I'm a little stumped to say the least, I really don't want to buy a set and find out they're the wrong ones.

Any advice on how to find out which ones I need. Also, should I go for aftermarket ones or splash out on GM ones?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 May 2013, 18:22:49
What is the last letter of your VIN?
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 May 2013, 18:23:59
Although I'd recommend GM pads, and the sensors I think are GM only. So if you have TC access, go to your dealer, or PM AndyC if you don't :y
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 19 May 2013, 18:47:19
What is the last letter of your VIN?

The last letter is just over half way through the full VIN, I assume you mean that one? In which case it's "V"
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 May 2013, 21:01:36
What is the last letter of your VIN?

The last letter is just over half way through the full VIN, I assume you mean that one? In which case it's "V"
1997, so it will be the smaller front discs/pads, and IIRC, these take different sensors as well.
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 19 May 2013, 22:26:24
Thanks for that, I'll PM AndyC and see what's what.
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: dbug on 19 May 2013, 23:08:32
Think I've got a brand new set of GM front pads for 286mm discs here - if you're interested PM me, althogh postage costs may be an issue.
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: jonathanh on 20 May 2013, 08:23:57
Think I've got a brand new set of GM front pads for 286mm discs here - if you're interested PM me, althogh postage costs may be an issue.

try collect plus then  - often the cheapest way of postage now
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 20 May 2013, 08:45:35
Thanks for the offer but I've already PMd AndyC. If I can get everything from one place in one go it will make it easier, but I'll keep you in mind.

On the brake fluid change side of things, would anyone recommend the Eezibleed kit from Gunson as I may end up doing the bleed on my own?
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: YZ250 on 20 May 2013, 09:04:20
Thanks for the offer but I've already PMd AndyC. If I can get everything from one place in one go it will make it easier, but I'll keep you in mind.

On the brake fluid change side of things, would anyone recommend the Eezibleed kit from Gunson as I may end up doing the bleed on my own?

Yep, that kit works fine. I laid the spare wheel on the engine to supply the pressure when I did mine.  :y
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: dbug on 20 May 2013, 16:20:29
Thanks for the offer but I've already PMd AndyC. If I can get everything from one place in one go it will make it easier, but I'll keep you in mind.

On the brake fluid change side of things, would anyone recommend the Eezibleed kit from Gunson as I may end up doing the bleed on my own?

No probs :y
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 02 July 2013, 21:28:56
Want to say thanks to AndyC for sorting out the pads and sensors for me. Great service. Ordered the Eezibleed kit, now just need to sort out getting some time put aside to change them over.
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: Webby the Bear on 03 July 2013, 00:01:23
After you're done with your brake job and before you even think about moving the car DO NOT forget to pump the pedal a bunch of times. And top off the master cylinder  :y

Good luck
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: Andy B on 03 July 2013, 00:08:29
After you're done with your brake job and before you even think about moving the car DO NOT forget to pump the pedal a bunch of times. And top off the master cylinder  :y

Good luck

Not doing as Webby suggests is something you tend do only do once  ::) ......... that sinking feeling isn't something you easliy forget!!!  :o  :o  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 03 July 2013, 06:24:15
After you're done with your brake job and before you even think about moving the car DO NOT forget to pump the pedal a bunch of times. And top off the master cylinder  :y

Good luck

Will do Webby, thanks for reminding me.  :y

Chances are I'd have pulled away without doing it knowing me  :D
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 07 July 2013, 13:26:52
Looks like I'm not getting them done this week, too much round the house to do lol

A couple of questions for when I do get time to do it.
Copper grease, yes or no? If yes then where and how much?

As for bleeding the brakes, is there a specific order in which they need to be bled?
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: tunnie on 07 July 2013, 13:32:19
I put it on the edge of the pads, where they sit in the bracket. File down edges of pad, also dab of copper slip where the piston pushes on, same on the outside where it's pushed against the caliper.  :y
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 07 July 2013, 20:08:27
How about the calliper slides, if they need greasing would copper be ok or something else?
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: TheBoy on 07 July 2013, 20:25:59
How about the calliper slides, if they need greasing would copper be ok or something else?
I use normal high temp grease on them if they need doing. Castrol LM, for eg.
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: hotel21 on 07 July 2013, 21:39:04
As for order of which wheel first, I always start at the furthest from the master cylinder then work my way through to the nearest.  :)
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: alexw80 on 07 July 2013, 21:45:01
Thanks for the advice Hotel21 and TheBoy, much appreciated  :y
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: Andy B on 07 July 2013, 21:58:16
As for order of which wheel first, I always start at the furthest from the master cylinder then work my way through to the nearest.  :)

but Mr Haynes advises two sequences depending on age (of the car  ::)) ie 3 or 4 channel system. No idea what difference it makes in the real world though  :-\
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: hotel21 on 07 July 2013, 22:12:19
Not looked Andy, to be honest. I'm old fashioned in so many ways that I just do as I have alwaYs done, hence furthest to closest. And I do a slow pedal press whilst bleeding each branch. Kinda turns a one person eezibleed into a two person, but, hey ho.  :)
Title: Re: Brake pad change advice needed.
Post by: Andy B on 07 July 2013, 23:43:22
Not looked Andy, to be honest. I'm old fashioned in so many ways that I just do as I have alwaYs done, hence furthest to closest. And I do a slow pedal press whilst bleeding each branch. Kinda turns a one person eezibleed into a two person, but, hey ho.  :)

your sequence & method is the tried & tested method that we all learned.  :y :y