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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 May 2013, 08:42:05
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Car started fine last night, went to start today as taking for it's MOT retest and it won't start.! >:(
It's turning over fine and the battery has plenty of juice. I disconnected the battery last night to clamp it down properly, reconnected it and put the codes in for the stereo, and it started again fine when I took it out of the garage. Now it won't go this morning..... >:(
Any ideas?
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crank sensor :'(
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any flashing EML for immobiliser ?
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Got it going this morning! What a PITA/Sods Law etc ::)
Don't really know what the problem was, but the car is parked on a steep hill facing up and when I turned her around so she was facing downwards, away she went!! :) Had just less than 1/4 of a tank of petrol, but often has less than this due to the LPG, and never a problem. The only thing I can think of is that I started her very briefly last night to put her in the garage for a quick tinker and then again started briefly to park back on the hill and maybe didn't give enough running time to pull fresh petrol through.. :-\
Anyway, the upshot was that I was late to the garage and they'd started another job when I got there, so they didn't finish her today. Maybe it's an omen or she was trying tell me something! :-\ ::)
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Got it going this morning! What a PITA/Sods Law etc ::)
Don't really know what the problem was, but the car is parked on a steep hill facing up and when I turned her around so she was facing downwards, away she went!! :) Had just less than 1/4 of a tank of petrol, but often has less than this due to the LPG, and never a problem. The only thing I can think of is that I started her very briefly last night to put her in the garage for a quick tinker and then again started briefly to park back on the hill and maybe didn't give enough running time to pull fresh petrol through.. :-\
Anyway, the upshot was that I was late to the garage and they'd started another job when I got there, so they didn't finish her today. Maybe it's an omen or she was trying tell me something! :-\ ::)
if she was trying to tell you something , soon you will understand ! :)
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I had a similar thing not long back and that ended up being crank sensor ::)
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Hopefully not as it was replaced fairly recently. :)
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Is it an estate ? These seem to need a lot of petrol in the tank to start them when parked on a slope.
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Is it an estate ? These seem to need a lot of petrol in the tank to start them when parked on a slope.
Funny you should say that-but it is true though :y
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Saloooon :) I think it has to be related to the fact that I started it very briefly the night before? :-\
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The estastes are alot more prone to it :-\
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The estastes are alot more prone to it :-\
I reckon its because tank lower
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Happened again today! >:( So I think you guys were right and it's probably the crank sensor! :(
I changed it about 18 months ago and it was probably a cheap one.... ::) but I can't remember rightly.. :-\
Do they tend to go intermittently? As I've done a bit of running around in her today and she's been fine and then I jumped in and she wouldn't start!! So after trying for a while with no success I abandoned her and went and had a ice cream on the seafront to calm down. When I got back she started first time!! ::)
Owning an Omega is a bit like having a second wife really isn't it?? ::) :D ;D
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Yep,often starts as an intermittent probem,then becomes permanent at the worst possible moment. ;)
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classic crank sensor get genuine this time :y
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Check codes. Although there may no be any.
Crank sensor.
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Thinking about it, it probably was a cheap ebay sensor as I've just replaced the pattern dispack and HBV (with genuine) that I fitted 18 months ago..... :-[
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I wonder if the Bosch dispack is throwing out a stronger spark than the old pattern dispack, and has caused the crank sensor to throw a wobbly? :-\
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No mate its the crank sensor. Pattern parts are shite. Especially electrical ones!
CHECK THE CODES THOUGH. ;)
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No mate its the crank sensor. Pattern parts are shite. Especially electrical ones!
CHECK THE CODES THOUGH. ;)
I think you misunderstood Ray. I accept it's the crank sensor but I was wondering if the new dispack has caused a knock on effect and so the crank sensor has died.... :-\
It just seems like a coincidence that the crank sensor has gone just after the new dispack has gone in. ::) :)
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No mate its the crank sensor. Pattern parts are shite. Especially electrical ones!
CHECK THE CODES THOUGH. ;)
I think you misunderstood Ray. I accept it's the crank sensor but I was wondering if the new dispack has caused a knock on effect and so the crank sensor has died.... :-\
It just seems like a coincidence that the crank sensor has gone just after the new dispack has gone in. ::) :)
The crank sensors fail because the wiring runs too close to the exhaust fanimold. Over time the insulation gets cooked and goes brittle. The sensor will work for months (years?) like that but fails when the wiring gets disturbed.
Changing the dispack often seems to be followed by a failed crank sensor so I reckon it is caused by the (unavoidable) disturbance of the wiring during the fight to change the dispack :-\
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No mate its the crank sensor. Pattern parts are shite. Especially electrical ones!
CHECK THE CODES THOUGH. ;)
I think you misunderstood Ray. I accept it's the crank sensor but I was wondering if the new dispack has caused a knock on effect and so the crank sensor has died.... :-\
It just seems like a coincidence that the crank sensor has gone just after the new dispack has gone in. ::) :)
The crank sensors fail because the wiring runs too close to the exhaust fanimold. Over time the insulation gets cooked and goes brittle. The sensor will work for months (years?) like that but fails when the wiring gets disturbed.
Changing the dispack often seems to be followed by a failed crank sensor so I reckon it is caused by the (unavoidable) disturbance of the wiring during the fight to change the dispack :-\
+1 :y
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Thanks, I thought there might be a link. :)
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No mate its the crank sensor. Pattern parts are shite. Especially electrical ones!
CHECK THE CODES THOUGH. ;)
I think you misunderstood Ray. I accept it's the crank sensor but I was wondering if the new dispack has caused a knock on effect and so the crank sensor has died.... :-\
It just seems like a coincidence that the crank sensor has gone just after the new dispack has gone in. ::) :)
No. Its the crank sensor. The sparks are generated from the cs signal, not the other way round.