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Title: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 June 2013, 18:46:03
A you may or may not know I am addicted to watching Eric the Car Guy videos and I was watching this one where he finds excessive play in the tie rod ends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiayOVEk3gk

He removes them as one whole assembly and shows this at 3 mins 30.

What I don't get...... surely this attaches to the steering? So why is there no link to the steering wheel? He simply knocks loose the ball joints and it's just a bar. Where's the attachment to the steering column?  :-\

If it's simple and obvious don't be harsh... i'm still learning  :y
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: symes on 12 June 2013, 18:54:54
Webby mate -what you have to remember is American cars and early european cars used a system of linkages and steering box
here goes---
Steering wheel/column to box==than (drop)arm on box moves rod/lever to one wheel---there is separate rod to other wheel
best to see early ford hot rods-still use the system :y
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2013, 18:56:42
It was a bit quick, but assume the steering box arm & pitman arm attach to it on either end of the solid bit he's holding.
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2013, 18:58:13
Webby mate -what you have to remember is American cars and early european cars used a system of linkages and steering boxhere goes---
 ....

Likle an Omega  ::)
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 June 2013, 19:00:45
cheers lads. so basically this is just a girder attached at some point to a drop link which is then attached to the steering box. should have spotted it myself having an omega  ::)

I think its just cos im used to steering racks 
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: symes on 12 June 2013, 19:02:05
did'nt watch-work on classic american cars ;) but drop arm and links probably still on one side - cross bar usually separate entity :y when under plymouth at weekend will post pix of steering ;)
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: symes on 12 June 2013, 19:04:16
cheers lads. so basically this is just a girder attached at some point to a drop link which is then attached to the steering box. should have spotted it myself having an omega  ::)

I think its just cos im used to steering racks 
Miggy sort of like it-but steering box connects to cross bar- :y
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 June 2013, 19:13:24
cheers symes  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: symes on 12 June 2013, 19:21:00
mate if you want a head ache-check out rover p6 steering/suspension--mahoosive nite mare-go on take a look some time-aarrrggghhhhh ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 June 2013, 05:09:14
The play he's showing is in the area of item no.7 / 9 Afaict.
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-steering-parts/cherokee-sj.htm

Similar to omega but with that extra long link. Presumably to allow for the higher body of the jeep. Meaning the steering box is higher up in the body in relation to the front steering drag links etc.

Not sure why they didn't put both the steering toe adjusters on the ends. Not enough room maybe...?

Anyway, not quite the same as omega, but similar design accounting for the higher seating position, and hence higher steering column. I think.   :y
Title: Re: Steering ''linkage''. Confusedbear.com
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 June 2013, 09:57:58
did'nt watch-work on classic american cars ;) but drop arm and links probably still on one side - cross bar usually separate entity :y when under plymouth at weekend will post pix of steering ;)

Trucks have a similar set up, with a link connecting the steering box to one wheel, then a cross bar connecting to the opposite wheel :y