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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 27 June 2013, 09:28:33
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Could someone help with this MOT code [ 2.4.G.2 ] :-\
Nearside front lower radius arm has slight play in pin bush ?
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Days gone by terms.
Wishbone in today's world.
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Days gone by terms.
Wishbone in today's world.
Thanks Daz , now i understand but i cant find any single part to fit ??? Does this mean the whole wishbone needs replaced ?
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Anyone ?? (http://www.deviantscrap.com/forum/images/smilies/scared-smiley-006.gif)
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Either new wishbones or re-bush the existing ones and fit a new ball joint ... do-able .. ask Seth as I know he's done it .. but it needs a fair bit of work and a decent press as well.....
I opted for the buy replacements option .. :(
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Thanks Entwood ;) I cant seem to find the specific parts i need to re-bush :( Last MOT said slight play in one side but both sides look like they need doing . Ive ordered 2 ball joints , just the bushes to source :(
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I wouldn't replace one side without the other, TBH, and as it's a real pain to get the bushes in and out a new pair of wishbones will be by far the easiest, and, if you use pattern parts, cheapest, route.
Of course, if it's the ball joints only, you can drill out the rivets and replace using suitable bolts.
If it's the front bushes only, you can cut them out and replace with poly bushes.
.. but I reckon the rear bushes are likely to be shot too.
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I wouldn't replace one side without the other, TBH, and as it's a real pain to get the bushes in and out a new pair of wishbones will be by far the easiest, and, if you use pattern parts, cheapest, route.
Of course, if it's the ball joints only, you can drill out the rivets and replace using suitable bolts.
If it's the front bushes only, you can cut them out and replace with poly bushes.
.. but I reckon the rear bushes are likely to be shot too.
No mention of rear bush wear and by track record they usually squeak a fair bit if they are shot :-\
Thanks Kevin , i see what you mean as it would be a darn site easier to replace 2 new wishbones . Sorry i meant ive ordered 2 new TRE's as they look past the sell buy date :(
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By the pin bush i presume the Mot sheet means the bottom ball joint thats fixed to the wishbone :-\ If so ive just seen a replacement bush that comes with the 3 bolts . Sorry to misunderstand :-[
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-LOWER-BALL-JOINT-VAUXHALL-VECTRA-B-95-02-ALL-MODELS-/360353448598?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53e6bd4296
If so i dont mind drilling out the old one :y
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Ball joint is NOT a "bush" IMHO .. :( I would contact the garage and ask for clarification ... pointless changing a ball joint if they mean a front/rear bush is the problem .. :(
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Ball joint is NOT a "bush" IMHO .. :( I would contact the garage and ask for clarification ... pointless changing a ball joint if they mean a front/rear bush is the problem .. :(
Nearside front lower radius arm has slight play in pin bush
My understanding and i may be wrong is there is only 1 pin bush in the lower radius arm :y
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Depends what you call a pin bush. Given that ball joints have been on vehicles since veteran days I think they'd call it a ball joint if that were the faulty item.
I would interpret it to mean a bush with a pin through the middle, the pin being the wishbone bolt in this case.
If in doubt, ask the MOT inspector who checked it, though, or jack it up and see where you can find play. IME, if it's bad enough to fail an MOT, it won't be hard to find it.
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Agreed a ball joint is a ball joint and a bush is a bush ;)
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Agreed a ball joint is a ball joint and a bush is a bush ;)
+1 :y
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Agreed a ball joint is a ball joint and a bush is a bush ;)
A bird in one is worth two in the hand and a bird on the other is a spitroast?
I'll get my coat.
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Don't take this the wrong way EMD, but all this talk of refurbing wishbones is not really for the faint hearted. It's not straightforward and can easily go wrong. You really need a re furbed set before you start dismantling your car.
As said, check exactly what part the mot station is saying has failed, but IMO, if its wishbone related, just fit a new set of Lemforders. I would never recomend anything cheaper either. Minimum layout=Lemforder, or Meyle. (but as with all oe style bushes, make sure the wb bolts are tightened wheels loaded.)
Link is from the top of the parts page. ;)
http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/cat_277900-Steering-and-suspension-components.html
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Thanks all :-[ ;D
Thanks for the link chris , MOT said slight play in pin bush and slight play in anti roll bar bush .. i know what anti roll bar bushes are as ive replaced quite a few :D PIN BUSH >:( why cant they describe the proper part >:(
Anyway i will check but looking for slight play mite be difficult :-\ Best get a decent pry bar , knew i should have picked one up last week ::)