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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 July 2013, 10:21:55
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I didn't take too much interest in this at first but as the story is unfolding it's becoming quite interesting. :)
The Hong Kong authorities seemingly dragged their feet when the US government requested his arrest and extradition and he flew to Moscow, where he has been for over a week now. The US have revoked his passport so he can't travel and the Russians can't arrest and extradite him (even if they wanted to) as he remains in the transit area of Moscow airport, which technically is not Russian territory. :-\ Although I'd bet my bottom ruble that the Russian security services have thoroughly 'interviewed' him! ::)
It's reported this morning that he has applied to 21 countries for political asylum and the US is screaming blue murder that they want him back!! The irony is that America has granted asylum to Russian and Chinese dissidents in the past, but of course I'm sure that this is completely lost on our friends in Washington. ::) The other irony is that if he was Russian or Chinese and had spilled state secrets they would also be fuming and possibly would take direct action, remember Litvinyenko? :o
All in all, it's like something from the cold war! ;) Will the Russians let him stay at the airport? (which is probably crawling with CIA agents!!) Who will blink first?? :-\ :y
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Aaah that pesky Ewar Snowon.
And that Sneaky Russian president said an awfull lot withouts saying anything at all didn't he. ! A Descreet raspberry blown accross the water there. ;D
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His fate is sealed, as like the Russians have done, the CIA / MI6 will "sort it" 8) 8) ;) ;)
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Funnily enough I don't think he applied to Britain for asylum... :-\ ;D
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reminds me of that film about a bloke who lived in airport :y :y
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His fate is sealed, as like the Russians have done, the CIA / MI6 will "sort it" 8) 8) ;) ;)
mmmmm, can see him dining on a polonium sandwich in the near future :-X :-X
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
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Hmmm.... not sure how much credibility he actually has :-\ Potentially he has already proven to be in breach of his employment contract. The
Central IntelligenceOxymoron Agency simply needs to deny everything he says. The most powerful government in the world versus one person. Right or wrong, he stands no chance :-\
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
This all raises some interesting questions. For example. The whiter than white USA (that spies on everyone -even its own allies) can make other countries close their airspace to force a plane to land. Is it Carlos the Jackal on board.? No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.
There was a good film on TV a few days ago based on Plamegate.
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
This all raises some interesting questions. For example. The whiter than white USA (that spies on everyone -even its own allies) can make other countries close their airspace to force a plane to land. Is it Carlos the Jackal on board.? No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.
There was a good film on TV a few days ago based on Plamegate.
Fair Game iirc, with Sean Penn and Naomi Watts. A touch more subtle than Farenheit 9/11, to be expected given it was made in 2010, but amply demonstrated just how determined GWNutBush was to re invade Iraq...
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No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.
.. who was clearly onto something given the number of nerves he's tweaked in the US of A. ;D
Bit of a miscalculation on his part that nobody's put their head above the parapet and offered him asylum, though. Looks like he'll have to ask his mate Assange for advice on long-term kipping on a sofa. ;)
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
Oh yes, you can just imagine some of the high level "discussions" going on involving Western government and their "agencies". Making offers that cannot be refused comes to mind! :D :D :D :D ;)
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
This all raises some interesting questions. For example. The whiter than white USA (that spies on everyone -even its own allies) can make other countries close their airspace to force a plane to land. Is it Carlos the Jackal on board.? No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.
There was a good film on TV a few days ago based on Plamegate.
But from the American perspective, a guy who is a traitor and has released secret information that could weaken / threaten western security. ;)
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
This all raises some interesting questions. For example. The whiter than white USA (that spies on everyone -even its own allies) can make other countries close their airspace to force a plane to land. Is it Carlos the Jackal on board.? No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.
There was a good film on TV a few days ago based on Plamegate.
But from the American perspective, a guy who is a traitor and has released secret information that could weaken / threaten western security. ;)
For Western read USA. The Americans don't give a fig for ANY other country (Britain included)
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Unfortunately for Mr Snowden, the US will be working on the assumption of what he might/could know rather than what he actually knows :-\
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Don't have any sympathy for the guy, or for any other so-called "whistleblowers". To work in a job where you have access to the sort of information they have published, you have to sign some form of confidentiality agreement. In the UK, it used to be the Official Secrets Act - don't know if that's still the case these days.
As far as I'm concerned, if you aren't prepared to stick to what you've agreed, you have betrayed your country. Your country may be wrong, but just who exactly are you to think that you know better?
Chuck him in a dungeon and throw away the key. Bung Assange in there with him and let them fight it out to see who's holier than whom!
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Apparently during the flight home from Moscow, the President of Bolivia's plane has been diverted to Austria as France and Portugal closed their airspace, on suspicion that Snowdon is on board... :o
This gets better and better!! :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23156360
This all raises some interesting questions. For example. The whiter than white USA (that spies on everyone -even its own allies) can make other countries close their airspace to force a plane to land. Is it Carlos the Jackal on board.? No just a normal guy who whistleblew to let the world know.
There was a good film on TV a few days ago based on Plamegate.
But from the American perspective, a guy who is a traitor and has released secret information that could weaken / threaten western security. ;)
For Western read USA. The Americans don't give a fig for ANY other country (Britain included)
Well of course, since WW2 we all in the West have relied on the power and protection of the USA. It has been crucial in keeping our democracies alive and well. Together we are strong, individually we would be weak.
In the days of all empires the only thing that matters in the first instance is the mother country. But in the process of that it's client states all benefit from the overall protection that "empire" provides. It is also a fact that a strong Europe, namely Britain, France and Germany, gives the USA a certain level of protection to their borders, which was particularly relevant in the days of the Cold War. Our missiles and bombers were the first line of defence for the USA, and even now that is still true, although the Western seaboard of the States will always be vulnerable to direct attack from Eastern states. :y
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A bit simplistic. I still believe that if the chips were down the Yanks would dump any country including us.
They have been spying on the EU offices (no doubt to help with the so called free trade outcome. Ye gods what next.
Oh and the Dutch have admitted that the yanks have had nuclear weapons on their soil (not some far flung island or dependency but Holland itself) for years despite the Dutch not voting for it.
The Frenchies have been exposed today as having a similar gigantic USA style information gathering machine. No surprises there.
We need whistleblowers and Assanges to keep countries honest. These are remember the same countries that back regimes in dodgy countries. The USA send 2 billion dollars a year to Eqypt for their military. ERR the military have just deposed the first democratically elected government. Will they stop sending the money? Of course not . Joe Public has no idea and cares less. As Den used to say OK! and Hello and beefburgers are what interest people.
It all STINKS.
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It was reported yesterday that a hidden microphone has been found in the Ecuadorian Embassy! ::)
The Foriegn Office have declined to comment.... ;) ;D