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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lizzie_Zoom on 02 July 2013, 17:10:00
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Thank you Seth so much for another book from Bill's, your late friend, collection! 8) 8) :y :y :y :y :y
This book, "Western Welsh", is like the others from his collection; a great reminder of nostalgic buses :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Fabulous :y :y :y :y :y
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Lizzie a friend lent me a book---The Spitfire Story by Alfred Price very good,it even has flight notes in and includes all the little changes too---highly recommended :y
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Lizzie a friend lent me a book---The Spitfire Story by Alfred Price very good,it even has flight notes in and includes all the little changes too---highly recommended :y
That must be a great book. :y :y
I had one on Spitfires myself in the past - until my ex went off with it! ggrrrrr ::) ::) ::)
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Lizzie a friend lent me a book---The Spitfire Story by Alfred Price very good,it even has flight notes in and includes all the little changes too---highly recommended :y
That must be a great book. :y :y
I had one on Spitfires myself in the past - until my ex went off with it! ggrrrrr ::) ::) ::)
>:( >:( >:( >:(
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You might like this one then Lizzie: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7109007-everything-but-the-flak :y
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You might like this one then Lizzie: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7109007-everything-but-the-flak :y
Thanks! Yes that book looks interesting 8) 8) :y :y :y
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
Thanks! :y :y :y :y
One of my American friends was a pilot of a Huey during the Vietnam War; he never wanted to discuss anything about it :( :(
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
Thanks! :y :y :y :y
One of my American friends was a pilot of a Huey during the Vietnam War; he never wanted to discuss anything about it :( :(
nobody in wars do ;)
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
Thanks! :y :y :y :y
One of my American friends was a pilot of a Huey during the Vietnam War; he never wanted to discuss anything about it :( :(
nobody in wars do ;)
That is a myth, as I have known "old soldiers / sailors". including my father and father-in-law, when alive, who loved to reminisce about those days in WW2, and in the case of the latter, also Korea.
With my American friends it is Vietnam as an exception to the rule, as it still leaves a bitter taste in their mouths. The principles of the war, and how it was fought, it still highly criticised by the veterans, and many, like my ex USAAF friend were disgusted by what they did, and how they did it. It was not a "good war" for them, unlike the "just" WW2. ;)
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
Thanks! :y :y :y :y
One of my American friends was a pilot of a Huey during the Vietnam War; he never wanted to discuss anything about it :( :(
nobody in wars do ;)
That is a myth, as I have known "old soldiers / sailors". including my father and father-in-law, when alive, who loved to reminisce about those days in WW2, and in the case of the latter, also Korea.
With my American friends it is Vietnam as an exception to the rule, as it still leaves a bitter taste in their mouths. The principles of the war, and how it was fought, it still highly criticised by the veterans, and many, like my ex USAAF friend were disgusted by what they did, and how they did it. It was not a "good war" for them, unlike the "just" WW2. ;)
my grandad was in WW2 -he didnt talk about much-lost too many friends i guess :'( andwell americans havent won a war yet have they--only interfered and invented friendly fire--ask anyone who was in korea-my stepdad probably killed some yanks cos they fired at brits--didnt make news though--unfortunately they think waving their flag will be enough to win-
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
Thanks! :y :y :y :y
One of my American friends was a pilot of a Huey during the Vietnam War; he never wanted to discuss anything about it :( :(
nobody in wars do ;)
That is a myth, as I have known "old soldiers / sailors". including my father and father-in-law, when alive, who loved to reminisce about those days in WW2, and in the case of the latter, also Korea.
With my American friends it is Vietnam as an exception to the rule, as it still leaves a bitter taste in their mouths. The principles of the war, and how it was fought, it still highly criticised by the veterans, and many, like my ex USAAF friend were disgusted by what they did, and how they did it. It was not a "good war" for them, unlike the "just" WW2. ;)
I flew in two cod wars, but find it painful to talk about it. ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you Seth so much for another book from Bill's, your late friend, collection! 8) 8) :y :y :y :y :y
This book, "Western Welsh", is like the others from his collection; a great reminder of nostalgic buses :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Fabulous :y :y :y :y :y
You're a very welcome recipient Ms Zoom! ;)
Nearly three years have flown by since dear Bill passed away, and I'm still un-earthing precious archive material and other valuable treasures from his estate.
An utterly polite pacifist and a chartered electrical engineer by qualification, he rose to become Deputy Head of Llanelli Technical College. The only son of a Gower small-holder's four children, he would've celebrated his 90th birthday this coming October.
Bill was a big AEC man, a great fan of the Vauxhall Omega, and was always impressed with the buses of the Western Welsh Omnibus Co; and from memory, he received that book from Pamela and I as a Christmas present some years back.
I've also unearthed a couple of treasured photos of my/our great friend and confidante:
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At a Science Museum Annexe event at Wroughton Airfield near Swindon in the mid-1980s.
Bill's second from right among us characters in front of a pre-war AEC Mammoth Major 8-wheeled tanker.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/img286.jpg)
Relaxing with us and our former AEC Reliance in the aftermath of one of Pamela's 'Full English' feasts!
Stanton Drew Steam-Up, August 1995.
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Thank you Seth so much for another book from Bill's, your late friend, collection! 8) 8) :y :y :y :y :y
This book, "Western Welsh", is like the others from his collection; a great reminder of nostalgic buses :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Fabulous :y :y :y :y :y
You're a very welcome recipient Ms Zoom! ;)
Nearly three years have flown by since dear Bill passed away, and I'm still un-earthing precious archive material and other valuable treasures from his estate.
An utterly polite pacifist and a chartered electrical engineer by qualification, he rose to become Deputy Head of Llanelli Technical College. The only son of a Gower small-holder's four children, he would've celebrated his 90th birthday this coming October.
Bill was a big AEC man, a great fan of the Vauxhall Omega, and was always impressed with the buses of the Western Welsh Omnibus Co; and from memory, he received that book from Pamela and I as a Christmas present some years back.
I've also unearthed a couple of treasured photos of my/our great friend and confidante:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/img328.jpg)
At a Science Museum Annexe event at Wroughton Airfield near Swindon in the mid-1980s.
Bill's second from right among us characters in front of a pre-war AEC Mammoth Major 8-wheeled tanker.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/img286.jpg)
Relaxing with us and our former AEC Reliance in the aftermath of one of Pamela's 'Full English' feasts!
Stanton Drew Steam-Up, August 1995.
As usual Seth, a great piece of information and pictures, which in itself is an on-going tribute to your late friend Bill! 8) 8) 8) 8) :y :y :y :y :y :y
Worth a posting also on the Nostalgic Bus thread? ;) ;) ;)
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And also this one: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63699.Chickenhawk, another terrific read. :y
Thanks! :y :y :y :y
One of my American friends was a pilot of a Huey during the Vietnam War; he never wanted to discuss anything about it :( :(
nobody in wars do ;)
That is a myth, as I have known "old soldiers / sailors". including my father and father-in-law, when alive, who loved to reminisce about those days in WW2, and in the case of the latter, also Korea.
With my American friends it is Vietnam as an exception to the rule, as it still leaves a bitter taste in their mouths. The principles of the war, and how it was fought, it still highly criticised by the veterans, and many, like my ex USAAF friend were disgusted by what they did, and how they did it. It was not a "good war" for them, unlike the "just" WW2. ;)
my grandad was in WW2 -he didnt talk about much-lost too many friends i guess :'( andwell americans havent won a war yet have they--only interfered and invented friendly fire--ask anyone who was in korea-my stepdad probably killed some yanks cos they fired at brits--didnt make news though--unfortunately they think waving their flag will be enough to win-
I know what you mean Varche, and in so many ways you are right; Americans are naturally gun-ho and have caused a number of blue on blue incidents in every war they have fought in.
It is a bit mean though to say they have never won any war. Without the forces, industrial might, and pure weight of numbers of the USA we would not have won WW2. It can be argued that with the Russians in the East, and the British on the Western front, Nazi Germany would have been 'squeezed' and placed under potentially defeat conditions. However, the speed at which the war was eventually ended in proved crucial, and was purely down to the might of the USA. If the was had protracted out even another year, Hitler would have been able to use his 'V' weapons fully, develop his jet fighter fleet, and overall would have been under far less pressure than was subsequently the case. Hitler in fact became a paranoid raving lunatic, who launched into regular highly destructive rants towards his Generals, and Germans overall, to sow the final seeds of his downfall. Without the American pressure backing the Allied thrust, it could have been a very different story!
In addition, never forget that before America entered the war after 7th December 1941, the industrial and financial might of the USA was already greatly assisting the British war effort, and without it Britain would have been starved of supplies at a very early stage.
With the Americans always remember to that even their own are very much "expendable" at times, with many examples of this being so, which is often true in the case of large countries in war:
Just three examples
General Pershing in the hour, even half hour, leading up to the Armistice at 1100 on the 11th November, 1918, at the close of WW1, still ordered his troops into full battle assaults at the Germans with hundreds of casualties. Even the German troops were amazed at the stupidity of this action.
The great bomber assaults by the USAAF from 1943 to 1945 were marred by the American commanders insisting on daylight raids, when they had inadequate protection from their fighter force. Indeed they could have had P51 Mustangs, powered by Rolls Royce Merlin engines, escorting the B17's all the way to Germany at an earlier stage, but American pride and stupidity ruled they stuck with inferior engined P51's which couldn't go the distance and were also very sluggish planes, and thus thousands of USAAF aircrew were lost unnecessarily.
The assault on Omaha beach at Normandy on the 6th June 1944 was a case of the Americans making serious errors of judgement and purely throwing numbers at a suicidal situation, which cost at least 2,000 American lives.
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As for Korea; no doubt your granddad was like my father-in-law, with the Glorious Gloucester's fighting at the Imjin River. An heroic battle against overwhelming odds. :y :y
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As usual Seth, a great piece of information and pictures, which in itself is an on-going tribute to your late friend Bill! 8) 8) 8) 8) :y :y :y :y :y :y
Now's probably an opportunity to mention another legacy from his estate:
Bill purchased a good few acres of lush pastureland near to his Gowerton home some years ago. His wish was that both our families should have a free and indefinite reign of the property, and it was here that we scattered his ashes after his death. We visit Gower quite often with our caravan, and it's a wonderfully-peaceful haven for us all to enjoy.
It's now in the custody of his son, who on a pastime basis keeps goats, hens and a few ponies thereon. There's also a substantial building which serves as a stable-cum-storage shed.
A few photies:
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Grandson Morgan was a tender 7 years old when he had his first ride on Tim.
Bill saved this docile old fella from the knacker's yard!
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Here we are feeding the hens with Bill's elder grandson on the far right.
No shortage of freshly-laid Gower eggs in this house!
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Bill would've been so proud to see Morgan handling Tim so confidently.
We've also got a trap for the pony, so we that can also enjoy one-horsepower rides on Gower.
Will see if I can find a photo ... at some point! 8)
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Great environment for kids to grow up in
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What a great legacy that has been left by Bill! 8) 8) 8) :y :y :y :y
The look in those lovely kids faces say it all Seth. Wonderful :-* :-* :y :y