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Title: Try this
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 10:20:59
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty
uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the
ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat
ltteer be in the rghit plae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll
raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed
ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: bob.dent on 13 November 2006, 10:26:38
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I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty
uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the
ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat
ltteer be in the rghit plae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll
raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed
ervey
lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Been on the Stella again Pete?? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: Bo Bo on 13 November 2006, 10:28:37
Saw this some time ago, it's very good  ;)
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Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 10:29:29
Not yet ;D im just bored :y
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Post by: theolodian on 13 November 2006, 10:31:45
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Saw this some time ago, it's very good  ;)
Yeah, it's actually on a well-worn piece of paper hanging on the wall at the local fishmonger's where my parents live.  (Since we're being random and avoiding work on a Monday morning)  :D
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Post by: Bo Bo on 13 November 2006, 10:36:45
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Saw this some time ago, it's very good  ;)
Yeah, it's actually on a well-worn piece of paper hanging on the wall at the local fishmonger's where my parents live.  (Since we're being random and avoiding work on a Monday morning)  :D
Avoiding work, me! never!  ::)
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 10:38:41
Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
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Post by: theolodian on 13 November 2006, 10:48:01
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 10:53:51
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
I have been self employed for just over 3 years and I survey buildings for disabled access. With the Disabled Discrimination Act coming out I have been very busy, but the last 3 months has died a death for some reason.
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Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 12:37:48
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
I have been self employed for just over 3 years and I survey buildings for disabled access. With the Disabled Discrimination Act coming out I have been very busy, but the last 3 months has died a death for some reason.

I'll tell you why its "Died a death" Pete. I work at a school and someone like yourself came along and did the survey. We were/are not at all disabled friendly (old building) and the work that needed doing to make us so was considerable.
There is, of course, no way we can pay for it from the school budget, so the local authority would have had to foot the bill. They haven't got the money either so asked central government to help out.
They simply said no, do it from your own budget.

So, once again, the government introduce 'legislation' but no money for local authorities to comply.

When it becomes apparent that its a stalemate, everyone conveniently forgets about it, and moves on to the next trendy initiative.

Its not just disabled access by the way, this has happened with asbestos (our school is made from asbestos :() and legionella.
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Post by: bob.dent on 13 November 2006, 13:04:34
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
I have been self employed for just over 3 years and I survey buildings for disabled access. With the Disabled Discrimination Act coming out I have been very busy, but the last 3 months has died a death for some reason.

I'll tell you why its "Died a death" Pete. I work at a school and someone like yourself came along and did the survey. We were/are not at all disabled friendly (old building) and the work that needed doing to make us so was considerable.
There is, of course, no way we can pay for it from the school budget, so the local authority would have had to foot the bill. They haven't got the money either so asked central government to help out.
They simply said no, do it from your own budget.

So, once again, the government introduce 'legislation' but no money for local authorities to comply.

When it becomes apparent that its a stalemate, everyone conveniently forgets about it, and moves on to the next trendy initiative.

Its not just disabled access by the way, this has happened with asbestos (our school is made from asbestos :() and legionella.

Yep, the good old Government/PC Brigade/Health & Safety Executive!! They take on highly paid jobsworths to sit down and dream up idea's of how they can make life more miserable and expensive for everybody and anyone that doesn't comply because they can't get the necessary funding (like STMO123's school) eventually get shut down! A**HOLES >:(

Rant over ::)
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 13:32:20
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
I have been self employed for just over 3 years and I survey buildings for disabled access. With the Disabled Discrimination Act coming out I have been very busy, but the last 3 months has died a death for some reason.

I'll tell you why its "Died a death" Pete. I work at a school and someone like yourself came along and did the survey. We were/are not at all disabled friendly (old building) and the work that needed doing to make us so was considerable.
There is, of course, no way we can pay for it from the school budget, so the local authority would have had to foot the bill. They haven't got the money either so asked central government to help out.
They simply said no, do it from your own budget.

So, once again, the government introduce 'legislation' but no money for local authorities to comply.

When it becomes apparent that its a stalemate, everyone conveniently forgets about it, and moves on to the next trendy initiative.

Its not just disabled access by the way, this has happened with asbestos (our school is made from asbestos :() and legionella.
There has to be some common sense applied when doing these surveys. But what most people dont realise is that most people that have disabililties are not born with them they occur later and a disabled person isn't only someone in a wheelchair. The survey should have highlighted things like colour contrasting, handrails, Induction loops and varied seating all of which is not that costly and any other major work could be incorperated when  there is refurbishment. Whenever I visit a School, Community Centre or Youth Club I often get asked is this going to shut use down, but so long as there are plans or a reasonable attempt has been made there should be no problem.
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 15:01:22
Sorry if I made it sound like the inspectors/surveyors were at fault, Pete. Ours are actually employed by the same local authority that cant afford the improvements. ;D

So, not only do they tell you what work needs doing, they're the ones that tell you that you cant have it done! Doh!

Its just compromise from the word go.

Bob, I realise that it must be a real headache for the private sector. We, as a school, of course, cannot be 'shut down'. The shit only hits the fan when there is an accident, or, when a disabled parent/visitor cannot gain access to certain parts of the building. They sue, and the same LEA that cant afford the improvements, has to afford the compensation. Doh again!
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 15:09:38
According to her in doors everthing is my fault ;D
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Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 15:12:22
Hmmm....go and live in your omega. My lads getting a violin, so I've threatened to do it. :(
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Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 15:15:40
I've got a nice 8x10 shed which i've been been making cosy for such cases ;)
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Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 15:19:24
Shed,beer,wine, telly...watch it Victor Meldrew ;D
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Post by: bob.dent on 13 November 2006, 15:45:49
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Shed,beer,wine, telly...watch it Victor Meldrew ;D

You forgot the girlie mags :D ;D ;D
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Post by: MikeDundee on 13 November 2006, 17:47:47
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
I have been self employed for just over 3 years and I survey buildings for disabled access. With the Disabled Discrimination Act coming out I have been very busy, but the last 3 months has died a death for some reason.

Pity did't let me know, just put out a tender for consultancy services to carry out DDA & H&S on T&RA halls 92 of them in all, surveys, works requ, costs etc., etc.. Mind you its in London, PM me if you are stuck may be able to point you in direction :y
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Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2006, 18:03:37
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Im try to arrange work, no work no pay :'(
Yeah, I hear you.  It's bloody effing depressing going through the job listings all day.  >:(
I have been self employed for just over 3 years and I survey buildings for disabled access. With the Disabled Discrimination Act coming out I have been very busy, but the last 3 months has died a death for some reason.

Pity did't let me know, just put out a tender for consultancy services to carry out DDA & H&S on T&RA halls 92 of them in all, surveys, works requ, costs etc., etc.. Mind you its in London, PM me if you are stuck may be able to point you in direction :y
Cheers for that :y Ive got some conditional surveys to do for Woking Borough Council in the next couple of weeks
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: MikeDundee on 13 November 2006, 18:12:25
No probs will PM you :y
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Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 19:18:01
If your going to do costings in London, Pete, dont forget to put a nought on everything :D
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Post by: MikeDundee on 13 November 2006, 19:20:47
No got cheaper now due to the influx of europeans ;D £0.99.
Title: Re: Try this
Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 19:30:35
Tell me Mick, are there any Londoners living in London? I lived there for seven years and everyone had moved out to Kent/Essex/Sussex.

Another thing was, if you lived south of the river, you never ventured north, and vice versa.
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Post by: MikeDundee on 13 November 2006, 19:33:16
 ;D Yes there are the odd few, but I think they all congregate in the Asylum Tavern, my local [smiley=beer.gif]
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Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 19:35:14
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;D Yes there are the odd few, but I think they all congregate in the Asylum Tavern, my local [smiley=beer.gif]

I dont remember that from fools and 'orses :D
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Post by: MikeDundee on 13 November 2006, 19:44:24
Thats cos it was filmed in Birmingham :o ;D, Desmonds is just up the road though ;D
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Post by: STMO123 on 13 November 2006, 19:47:51
Hmmmm...and was Desmonds called Desmonds before fools, or did it mysteriously get a name change when the series became popular?
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Post by: MikeDundee on 13 November 2006, 19:52:15
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Hmmmm...and was Desmonds called Desmonds before fools, or did it mysteriously get a name change when the series became popular?

More likely the latter.