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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Gaffers on 29 July 2013, 16:23:47
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I am in the process of buying a house which is still under construction. One of the other houses was completed for viewing and some of the carpets did not have underlay, infact only the stairs had any at all.
I have asked them to include underlay but in case they refuse can I add underlay after the carpet has been laid? Or am I asking for trouble? Obviously I will need the carpet tools etc but just curious as I am a little heavy underfoot.
TIA :y
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I am in the process of buying a house which is still under construction. One of the other houses was completed for viewing and some of the carpets did not have underlay, infact only the stairs had any at all.
I have asked them to include underlay but in case they refuse can I add underlay after the carpet has been laid? Or am I asking for trouble? Obviously I will need the carpet tools etc but just curious as I am a little heavy underfoot.
TIA :y
Not a problem as long as you fit the gripper rods around the perimeter and use a "carpet kicker/stretcher"
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Its possible mate but a pita - best to get underlay fitted from day 1 ;)
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Its possible mate but a pita - best to get underlay fitted from day 1 ;)
+1 :y
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Its possible mate but a pita - best to get underlay fitted from day 1 ;)
+1 :y
+2 :y
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I totally understand on getting it done before but they are being a little difficult with other simple things like if I supply the paint can they use another colour instead of the horrid mint green that is on the walls in the demonstrator so I am not holding my breath on the underlay even if I supply it myself or pay for it.
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Other thing to bear in mind when adding underlay is that the doors are probably hung to a certain thickness of floor covering. Adding underlay may well mean trimming the bottom of doors, rehanging same or using rising butt hinges to clear.
I have been told by a carpet fitter friend that whilst quality of carpet is important, it is equally important to get good quality underlay. Once that starts to degrade on the busy walk routes the carpet soon starts to follow.
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here we go. the carpet thats allready down will be cheap trade foam backed an glued down(spray glue),looks good for the punters,when you try to take it up to put the underlay down,it might be allright or just rip,and if it was ok it will be to small to put underlay and gripper rods down,also might be unsuitable for gripper rods.
how do i know all this,just had new hall,stairs,landing and bedroom done. asked a similer question about the carpet in a bedroom, as for underlay buy the most expensive quality you can afford,ask the carpet fitters which one they recomend, not the shop sales staff,as they want the commison of the sale.we had the middle priced underlay and hessian backed carpets fitted, nice n comfy.
hope this helps a bit. :y
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my lads a carpet fitter----and here now--he says following
Underlay first with grippers and then lay carpet
If foam back you will not need underlay
Argue amonst yourselves-Marcus(son) only telling you whats what
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Yep, all good advice. My local carpet guy has always said use the best underlay you can afford, then figure out what's left in the budget for the carpet. ;D
House developers do everything on the cheap and don't give a monkeys if it's in a state in a year's time. By then they'll have wound the company up, started a new one and carried on. ;)
We looked around a new house last time we moved. Clearly the central heating had just been commissioned. Every plumbing fitting in the place was weeping. Now, I'm no plumber, but I dabble every so often, and maybe I'll find one in 20 joints I make needs to be nipped up. Enough said. Oh, I'm not helping, am I? :-[
I would find out what carpet fitter the builders are using and pay them to do the job properly, TBH.
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Negotiate with the builders to get what you want, quality underlay and your choice of carpet, plus decoration :y
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Can't answer your question, but a friend of mine is a carpet fitter by trade and his prices are very reasonable.
Our new local is the Beehive (opposite Manor Park), pop down for a beer and a chat and I reckon you'll leave quite happy price wise ;)
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What ever they fit, will have to be heald down somehow. Glued, tacked, stapled, whatever. Which means it will be ruined once lifted up again. And so will the floor.
Foam backed carpet is NO replacement for under lay. IME.
New builds come in a cirtain base level.
NO carpet. They don't want the agro of nailing gripper bar to concrete floors made from sand and water. Or trimming doors, made of paper mashay. Its a mine field for them that they are passing on to customers.
NO curtain rail batons. Stud walls won't hold them up and the rsj is in the way of any drill.
Which, ime, means... The skrirting board wont stay put either, even on block walls. Another joy of fitting carpets in a new build. ::)
They,ll 've had a million and one punters ask the same questions, re fixtures and fittings. They won't help.
IMO. Don't buy a new build. Ever!
But that's just me.
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But then all houses were a new build at some point :-X ;)
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But then all houses were a new build at some point :-X ;)
...that way, someone else gets all the grief. Not to mention snagging lists, and customer "care" :(
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Just had new carpets fitted in lounge, dining room, stairs and landing. Did the underlay myself...used that new foam stuff about 10mm thick. Luckily, only one door opens onto the new carpet. Had to trim it down......just shows how new stuff is thicker than old. Its like walking on a soft thick springboard now :y
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But then all houses were a new build at some point :-X ;)
That is true of course. I was a bricklayer from 1981 to 1990 and have worked on prperties built from 1918 to 1990. Personally I would never buy a house built after about 1980-1985. After that point they are shockingly poor quality. To me best build quality was 1960s but the houses where generally smaller. If I could afford it again probably buy 1920s like my first house was. I have no experience of pre 1918.
Just my useless experience/opinion.
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on a new build you generally get what you pay for,
if its built down to a price ecpect corner cutting,
dont forget you are the buyer, no one forces you to buy the crap, spend a bit more for a better built house,
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So scimmy man. Tell me... How do you know the build quality until allowed access? I am intrigued...?
From what I gather, from new property sold from £2m to £200k the story is much the same. Obviously there will be the odd snag on any new property, but the same issues crop up time and time again, along with customer service, no matter the price.
Your right though, I have experienced the quality, now ::) and will not buy new again.
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I fully understand the new-build quality issues as I have lived in one for the last 4 and a half years. But I need to buy a place and the Help to buy and the Newbuy schemes are all I can afford right now as I only have about 5% for a deposit. The help to buy gives you access to the 75% mortgage market which gives very good rates.
As for the niggles I can deal with them and I am pretty good at sorting out issues (try 8 years managing defence contractors)
I just don't have a lot of experience with carpets that's all ;D
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I just don't have a lot of experience with carpets that's all ;D
Not even biting them when Loo-Knee is in town? Lucky escape. ::)
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So scimmy man. Tell me... How do you know the build quality until allowed access? I am intrigued...?
employ your own surveyor to oversee the build?
make visits yourself during the build?
probably best to buy from a local buildingfirm rather than a national,
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Btw I inspect houses and extensions for a living, when I had my house built, it was a very short list I would let work for me, ;D
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Btw I inspect houses and extensions for a living, when I had my house built, it was a very short list I would let work for me, ;D
Think you've answered Gixers comment adequately mate :y
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I just don't have a lot of experience with carpets that's all ;D
Not even biting them when Loo-Knee is in town? Lucky escape. ::)
Shhhh I am trying to move without letting him know where my new house is, he is insatiable ;D
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So scimmy man. Tell me... How do you know the build quality until allowed access? I am intrigued...?
employ your own surveyor to oversee the build?
make visits yourself during the build?
probably best to buy from a local buildingfirm rather than a national,
I doubt they'll let anyone hammer gripper bar nails into the concrete floor, or drill holes above the windows, no matter who is on site.
Be that in person or anyone else.
Couldn't know who to buy from until I'd bought one in the first place.
Christ, these bloody Jedi are everywhere these days, aren't they! ;D
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So scimmy man. Tell me... How do you know the build quality until allowed access? I am intrigued...?
employ your own surveyor to oversee the build?
make visits yourself during the build?
probably best to buy from a local buildingfirm rather than a national,
I doubt they'll let anyone hammer gripper bar nails into the concrete floor, or drill holes above the windows, no matter who is on site.
Be that in person or anyone else.
Couldn't know who to buy from until I'd bought one in the first place.
Christ, these bloody Jedi are everywhere these days, aren't they! ;D
Mind you, your not a very good Jedi. Or you would have gone and checked the house before I even knew I was going to buy it. ;)
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did he wave is hand muttering, "you will buy this"? ;D
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did he wave is hand muttering, "you will buy this"? ;D
It wasn't built. ::)