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Title: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 15:22:33
If I wanted a very tall Leylandii chopped down, in the Surrey area, anyone got an idea of a ball park figure on cost?

It's taller than a standard two story house, it would need to be chopped up, the core bits left for to be later chopped up for firewood, rest taken away. (all the foliage)

Eg this kind of since (image borrowed from Google)

(http://www.chewvalleytrees.co.uk/images/products/Cuppressus-Leylandii-2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: RobG on 02 August 2013, 15:34:24
Varies widely Mark. Need to get some quotes in ideally as it`s not just a felling job
http://www.treesurgeryshenfield.co.uk/blog/how-much-will-it-cost-to-cut-down-my-tree/
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 15:39:07
Cheers Rob  :y

Wow £660 starting fee, up to £4k  :o

Might need to increase my mortgage  :o  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Steve B on 02 August 2013, 15:40:03
tunnie get the pikeys on that  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 15:41:02
tunnie get the pikeys on that  :y

Rather not, considering if it went wrong, it would take out the house!
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 August 2013, 16:08:07
tunnie get the pikeys on that  :y

Rather not, considering if it went wrong, it would take out the house!

... and the Pikeys would take everything else!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Rog on 02 August 2013, 16:10:35
I recently got quoted around £350 + VAT NOT for complete removal, but just to top three like that by about 15 ft.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 16:12:03
I recently got quoted around £350 + VAT NOT for complete removal, but just to top three like that by about 15 ft.

Humm still ouch, if anything was done, I'd like it reduced by at least 50-75%

Still confirmed I thought it would be expensive, need to save up for it I think  :)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Andy B on 02 August 2013, 16:16:06
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 need to save up for it I think  :)

You're not still on a £grand a week then  ::)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 16:26:11
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 need to save up for it I think  :)

You're not still on a £grand a week then  ::)

Mortgage + an ever expanding list of jobs to do, means its all eaten up very quickly  :'(

Still I'm wiser than some people in my team, who decided to buy a brand new BMW 530GT
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Andy B on 02 August 2013, 16:32:46
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Mortgage + an ever expanding list of jobs to do, means its all eaten up very quickly  :'(
It happens to us all no matter what you earn.  :-\
But the mortgage won't be there for ever ..... have I said that mine has just finished!  ::)

Still I'm wiser than some people in my team, who decided to buy a brand new BMW 530GT
Not keen on them anyway.  :-\
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 16:36:21
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Mortgage + an ever expanding list of jobs to do, means its all eaten up very quickly  :'(
It happens to us all no matter what you earn.  :-\
But the mortgage won't be there for ever ..... have I said that mine has just finished!  ::)

Still I'm wiser than some people in my team, who decided to buy a brand new BMW 530GT
Not keen on them anyway.  :-\

I was briefly tempted to go back to 25 years for the new one, but stuck with old term. So after my next 5 year fixed, its down to 17 years, still a while to go  ::)  :(

The 530GT is quite spacious inside, its quick too for a diesel. Not for me though, white with black wheels  ???
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: pscocoa on 02 August 2013, 16:39:17
I recently got quoted around £350 + VAT NOT for complete removal, but just to top three like that by about 15 ft.

But they grow back pretty quick!!!
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2013, 16:56:44
Cost.......One young fit man (You) and a petrol chainsaw.


Total cost about £150. :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2013, 16:59:31
We had thirteen 50ft poplars cut back to 6ft and all the wood taken away.

Cost £520, after negotiation.  :y

It took thee man half a day.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 17:00:03
Cost.......One young fit man (You) and petrol chainsaw.


Total cost about £150. :y

If it was half the height, I'd easily take it on. Have to see, getting little ahead of myself here.  :)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 17:00:35
We had thirteen 50ft poplars cut back to 6ft and all the wood taken away.

Cost £520, after negotiation.  :y

It took thee man half a day.

What was the initial quoted price?
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2013, 17:02:26
We also had a mature sycamore which measured a good 60 ft cut down for free...... :y

free wood for a year for the guys who did the work. :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2013, 17:03:27
We had thirteen 50ft poplars cut back to 6ft and all the wood taken away.

Cost £520, after negotiation.  :y

It took thee man half a day.

What was the initial quoted price?


From memory it was about £700 and we had to deal with the wood.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 17:03:56
We had thirteen 50ft poplars cut back to 6ft and all the wood taken away.

Cost £520, after negotiation.  :y

It took thee man half a day.

What was the initial quoted price?


From memory it was about £700 and we had to deal with the wood.

Nice, thats a good discount  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2013, 17:06:10
Cost.......One young fit man (You) and petrol chainsaw.


Total cost about £150. :y

If it was half the height, I'd easily take it on. Have to see, getting little ahead of myself here.  :)


I suppose it depends how close it is to 'breakable'  items.........e.g..... house.....greenhouse.......Omega 3.2 Elite. ::) ::) ::) :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 August 2013, 17:08:08
We had thirteen 50ft poplars cut back to 6ft and all the wood taken away.

Cost £520, after negotiation.  :y

It took thee man half a day.

What was the initial quoted price?


From memory it was about £700 and we had to deal with the wood.

Nice, thats a good discount  :y


It was a genuine company, too. All the safety gear and not a pikey in sight.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 02 August 2013, 17:10:35
Like I say at half height, i'd attack it. I'd actually want to keep the wood for burning. I might just have a bash myself, how hard can it be?  ;D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: cnj on 02 August 2013, 17:27:52
leylandii do not burn well, certainly not for open fire use, green, it'll soot everything up pretty damn quick ! and dry it will be up the chimney and gone before you know it. the best use I can think of is to chip it up and use it for mulch !!
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Andy B on 02 August 2013, 19:20:40
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I was briefly tempted to go back to 25 years for the new one, but stuck with old term. So after my next 5 year fixed, its down to 17 years, still a while to go  ::)  :(
 .......

If you got a quote for 25 yr & another for 25yrs minus what you've already paid for, you'll probably have found there wasn't much difference in the payments anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Andy B on 02 August 2013, 19:23:52
Cost.......One young fit man (You) and a petrol chainsaw.


Total cost about £150. :y

A mate of a mate is a tree surgeon, & he says he goes to loads of trees where someone has tackled it previously with a hire shop chainsaw and they've ended up in hospital due to chainsaw rash!  ???  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: PhilRich on 02 August 2013, 19:30:08
Petrol, match, deckchair, alcoholic beverage, popcorn, phone near at hand if it all goes tits up! ;D :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Andy B on 02 August 2013, 20:16:16
Petrol, match, deckchair, alcoholic beverage, popcorn, phone near at hand if it all goes tits up! ;D :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: jonathanh on 02 August 2013, 20:27:52
ok  my advice is that you don't need a tree surgeon but a tree executioner.  There is no great skill in getting lelandii out, just brute force, same for poplars

I had a dozen 30 ft poplars taken out in a day for £200 roots as well. 

A lelandii of that size I'd pull with a tractor ( if you can get to it).  the root ball will pop out.

Best advice is to find a local farmer
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Rods2 on 02 August 2013, 22:31:47
How much space have you got for it to fall in any direction? as that will define how high up the trunk you will have to cut it?

Accurately getting it to fall in a particular direction is very straight forward. Rope the tree above where you are going to cut it. Tie the tensioned rope a concrete fence post or something non-movable like this, if it is not safe to have someone pulling on the rope. Cut a horizontal V in the direction of the fall about half way through the trunk and then cut through Horizontally on the other side about 1/2 way through the trunk about 25mm ABOVE the V. Put a metal wedge into the horizontal cut and hit with a hammer, this will start the tree falling. Obviously you need to be behind the tree, so it does not fall on you!

When cutting wood with a chainsaw it is important that the gap does not close as this can cause the saw to kick back. If you hire a chainsaw, make sure you have the proper gloves and ideally trousers. These both contain thin stands on nylon material which clogs the saw and stops it before you have taken your hand or a limb off. A chain saw can cut through a branch in seconds, it will go through a limb even faster!  :o :o :o :o

I was fortunate in that a friend of mine used to be a woodsman at Longleat and taught me how to use a chainsaw before I bought one for myself.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: biggriffin on 03 August 2013, 08:55:49
just gett the members of a caravan utilising nomadic travellers to remove it. :D :D

 or do as rods2 suggested, or is it time for oof'ers tree party :)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 03 August 2013, 08:58:45
How much space have you got for it to fall in any direction? as that will define how high up the trunk you will have to cut it?

Accurately getting it to fall in a particular direction is very straight forward. Rope the tree above where you are going to cut it. Tie the tensioned rope a concrete fence post or something non-movable like this, if it is not safe to have someone pulling on the rope. Cut a horizontal V in the direction of the fall about half way through the trunk and then cut through Horizontally on the other side about 1/2 way through the trunk about 25mm ABOVE the V. Put a metal wedge into the horizontal cut and hit with a hammer, this will start the tree falling. Obviously you need to be behind the tree, so it does not fall on you!

When cutting wood with a chainsaw it is important that the gap does not close as this can cause the saw to kick back. If you hire a chainsaw, make sure you have the proper gloves and ideally trousers. These both contain thin stands on nylon material which clogs the saw and stops it before you have taken your hand or a limb off. A chain saw can cut through a branch in seconds, it will go through a limb even faster!  :o :o :o :o

I was fortunate in that a friend of mine used to be a woodsman at Longleat and taught me how to use a chainsaw before I bought one for myself.

No, far too big sadly.

Did think about this route & employ some helpers  :)

Not sure I'd like to use a chainsaw, never have done so before.

Think I need to get some quotes in when the time comes and go from there  :)

Thanks all  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2013, 11:03:36
How much space have you got for it to fall in any direction? as that will define how high up the trunk you will have to cut it?

Accurately getting it to fall in a particular direction is very straight forward. Rope the tree above where you are going to cut it. Tie the tensioned rope a concrete fence post or something non-movable like this, if it is not safe to have someone pulling on the rope. Cut a horizontal V in the direction of the fall about half way through the trunk and then cut through Horizontally on the other side about 1/2 way through the trunk about 25mm ABOVE the V. Put a metal wedge into the horizontal cut and hit with a hammer, this will start the tree falling. Obviously you need to be behind the tree, so it does not fall on you!

When cutting wood with a chainsaw it is important that the gap does not close as this can cause the saw to kick back. If you hire a chainsaw, make sure you have the proper gloves and ideally trousers. These both contain thin stands on nylon material which clogs the saw and stops it before you have taken your hand or a limb off. A chain saw can cut through a branch in seconds, it will go through a limb even faster!  :o :o :o :o

I was fortunate in that a friend of mine used to be a woodsman at Longleat and taught me how to use a chainsaw before I bought one for myself.

No, far too big sadly.

Did think about this route & employ some helpers  :)

Not sure I'd like to use a chainsaw, never have done so before.

Think I need to get some quotes in when the time comes and go from there  :)

Thanks all  :y


 Don't worry If you accidentally lop off an arm or a leg. You have a spare. :y

The same does not apply to your John Thomas. :( :( :(
Title: Okay...Petrolheads
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2013, 11:07:14
What is the forgotten supercar pictured in my avatar?

The first correct answer wins an all expenses paid paid trip to St Lucia for two. Honest. :y


Whoops,  wrong section.  Mr Cretin meant to start a a new post. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Andy B on 03 August 2013, 11:08:03
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 Don't worry If you accidentally lop off an arm or a leg. You have a spare. :y

The same does not apply to your John Thomas. :( :( :(

and that is why it's better to pay someone that has all the gear & experience to do it for  you rather than learning by your mistakes.  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 03 August 2013, 11:11:32
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 Don't worry If you accidentally lop off an arm or a leg. You have a spare. :y

The same does not apply to your John Thomas. :( :( :(

and that is why it's better to pay someone that has all the gear & experience to do it for  you rather than learning by your mistakes.  ;)  ;)  ;)

Exactly my thinking, at least to 50% of its current height. Then it will be far, far more manageable.  :)
Title: Re: Okay...Petrolheads
Post by: henryd on 03 August 2013, 11:14:07
What is the forgotten supercar pictured in my avatar?

The first correct answer wins an all expenses paid paid trip to St Lucia for two. Honest. :y


Whoops,  wrong section.  Mr Cretin meant to start a a new post. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Looks like italian styling ???
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 August 2013, 11:23:18
Winson woodcraft took 8 of those, in our garden, down to ground level for £350 iirc.

They are local to us, so probably not worth them travelling, nut should give a ball park figure.
It also depends how far they ave to haul the limbs to their chipper regards access.


But get a proper job done, tree felling is an easy way to removal of your own limbs if you don't know what your doing. ;)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 03 August 2013, 11:24:38
Cheers Chris, I'd be very happy paying that kind of figure  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 August 2013, 11:07:27
When healthy I'd be willing to help you out but, TBH, it's easier to get someone in to do it and clear the site too :y

Don't bother keeping any of the wood... It's no good for burning for heat anyway ;)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 04 August 2013, 11:31:57
When healthy I'd be willing to help you out but, TBH, it's easier to get someone in to do it and clear the site too :y

Don't bother keeping any of the wood... It's no good for burning for heat anyway ;)

Fantastic offer, thanks  :)  :y

Wanted it just for outside fires, intend to get a fire-pit. (going to let it dry out for 12+ months first)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Gaffers on 05 August 2013, 10:18:21
Cost.......One young fit man (You) and petrol chainsaw.


Total cost about £150. :y

If it was half the height, I'd easily take it on. Have to see, getting little ahead of myself here.  :)


I suppose it depends how close it is to 'breakable'  items.........e.g..... house.....greenhouse.......Omega 3.2 Elite. ::) ::) ::) :y

You forgot garage  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 August 2013, 17:10:02
Cost.......One young fit man (You) and petrol chainsaw.


Total cost about £150. :y

If it was half the height, I'd easily take it on. Have to see, getting little ahead of myself here.  :)


I suppose it depends how close it is to 'breakable'  items.........e.g..... house.....greenhouse.......Omega 3.2 Elite. ::) ::) ::) :y

You forgot garage  ::) ::)

Garage.. Fire pit.. You know who to call. ;)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Rods2 on 05 August 2013, 19:56:09
Let us know when you want it cut and I will see what I can do to help.  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Gaffers on 05 August 2013, 20:03:19
I can ask my buddy in EOD if he has any Det cord spare.........how far away from he house did you want the tree to fly? :D :D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 August 2013, 21:14:12
I can ask my buddy in EOD if he has any Det cord spare.........how far away from he house did you want the tree to fly? :D :D

I hope my contact didn't leave with any.. His wife has sold all his old army gear on EBay. :o
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Rods2 on 07 August 2013, 00:31:57
Tunnie, if you are moving to the Camberley area, then I will definitely be up for helping you sort out your tree problem.  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2013, 10:16:19
Whereabouts in Camberley, Tunnie? Lived in the area from the age of 6 to about 26.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Gaffers on 07 August 2013, 10:20:15
Looks like another joining the NE Hampshire OOF chapter, especially as I am staying in the area now too  :y

With the sensible use of ropes and a chainsaw it is fairly easy to do your self.  I did an 8m beech outside my front door with a handsaw and a 10m rope.
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2013, 10:27:17
I have access to a chainsaw and loads of home brew. What could possibly go wrong?  :y

House"warming" at Tunnie's. :D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Gaffers on 07 August 2013, 10:37:19
And then mine!  ;D ;D

But no tree problem chez Guffer :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: tunnie on 07 August 2013, 10:44:10
Cheers Chaps  :y

Nothing is 100% yet, waiting on surveys now. But so far looking good, it's on the Camberley/Frimley boarder, just near the Frimley Rd/Park Rd.

Very welcome to have you guys round see what you think, also got loads of off road parking. Good chance for, curry, chainsaws, beer & spot of car work?  :D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Gaffers on 07 August 2013, 11:01:13
I think I know where your new place is, been looking around there too but found these newbuys which allowed us to do the Help to Buy scheme.  The mortgage is cheaper than rent would be :y

We shall have to deconflict our house warmings ;D
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 August 2013, 11:09:32
Cheers Chaps  :y

Nothing is 100% yet, waiting on surveys now. But so far looking good, it's on the Camberley/Frimley boarder, just near the Frimley Rd/Park Rd.

Very welcome to have you guys round see what you think, also got loads of off road parking. Good chance for, curry, chainsaws, beer & spot of car work?  :D

Sounds awesome!  :) Not too far from Darzet either!!  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2013, 11:11:22
Fingers crossed it all goes smoothly for both of you. :y

You're both in cycling distance of the Prince of Wales, so maybe I can get back into practice drinking my way down their blackboard. ;)
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Rods2 on 07 August 2013, 12:30:59
I've also got a chainsaw, rope, tall pair of steps and the experience to cut this tree down to size.  :y
Title: Re: Tree Surgeon Advise
Post by: Steve B on 07 August 2013, 16:58:37
Here you go tunnie give these a ring  :y

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10228464/Tallest-hedge-in-UK-trimmed-using-cherrypicker.html